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  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 3,285
    edited February 22

    aivarioha said:



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    it is a terrible game, there is no one world when you could come an play. You need to have a group of people to play it.





















    Terrible game that is setting records for concurrent players and purchases lol. No sir....it's you.













    And I have been playing solo since it released and enjoying it just fine. I can imagine it is a different experience with friends but you do not "need" a group.













    The game is not for you, get over it. Doesn't make it terrible.


















    Something being popular don't make it quality.





    #yikes




















    You not liking something doesn't make it terrible. Holy shit dude....you're actually debating this? I get it....you have self-esteem issues because everyone likes this game except you and you are diverting that back onto the game must be terrible. It's okay man, it's not for everyone, just everyone but you.












    This is actually hilarious.



    First of all, this is a comment section to discuss video games. Seems like someone has forgotten that... And if that wasn't enough you mention self-esteem issues... Well all that would have been just an ironical cringe comment and not more... if you just wouldn't have finished your post making it even more personal with "everyone, but you"...










    Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Literally.









    Do you want a discussion or do you want to just come in here and talk shit then expect no one to reply?? Because that is not discussion dude. You didn't like the reply you got so you're crying about it lol. If you don't want anyone to tell you how irrational your opinion is and correct facts you got wrong.....don't post.



    You cherry-picked one thing out of my reply to respond to as if that won the debate for you or something rofl. Go away man, your whole argument here is stupid. "terrible game, need group".......lol.






    My reply just randomly disappeared, so I will make this short and simple. (uncommentable)



    So that automatically means you're crying because I am crying. Which then makes you look like the biggest hypocrite because I did not ask for your opinion about my opinion, nor initiated any direct conversations with anyone let alone you.



    Now whether agree, disagree, it's right or wrong. That is a totally different conversation which, BY THE WAY, you did not care to start in a civil manner. You chose to be a whiny c*unt about it, which then you pointing fingers at anyone here makes you look like the biggest hypocrite lol.



    You want to stoop to this name-calling crap bro.....I'm done. Ignoring you and your ridiculous posts.

    When you post your opinion that is an open invitation for anyone to discuss said opinion. I suggest you just stop posting if you cannot handle it. 
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  • aivariohaaivarioha Member UncommonPosts: 46
    Viper482 said:

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    aivarioha said:







    Viper482 said:









    aivarioha said:











    Viper482 said:













    aivarioha said:







    it is a terrible game, there is no one world when you could come an play. You need to have a group of people to play it.





















    Terrible game that is setting records for concurrent players and purchases lol. No sir....it's you.













    And I have been playing solo since it released and enjoying it just fine. I can imagine it is a different experience with friends but you do not "need" a group.













    The game is not for you, get over it. Doesn't make it terrible.


















    Something being popular don't make it quality.





    #yikes




















    You not liking something doesn't make it terrible. Holy shit dude....you're actually debating this? I get it....you have self-esteem issues because everyone likes this game except you and you are diverting that back onto the game must be terrible. It's okay man, it's not for everyone, just everyone but you.












    This is actually hilarious.



    First of all, this is a comment section to discuss video games. Seems like someone has forgotten that... And if that wasn't enough you mention self-esteem issues... Well all that would have been just an ironical cringe comment and not more... if you just wouldn't have finished your post making it even more personal with "everyone, but you"...










    Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Literally.









    Do you want a discussion or do you want to just come in here and talk shit then expect no one to reply?? Because that is not discussion dude. You didn't like the reply you got so you're crying about it lol. If you don't want anyone to tell you how irrational your opinion is and correct facts you got wrong.....don't post.



    You cherry-picked one thing out of my reply to respond to as if that won the debate for you or something rofl. Go away man, your whole argument here is stupid. "terrible game, need group".......lol.






    My reply just randomly disappeared, so I will make this short and simple. (uncommentable)



    So that automatically means you're crying because I am crying. Which then makes you look like the biggest hypocrite because I did not ask for your opinion about my opinion, nor initiated any direct conversations with anyone let alone you.



    Now whether agree, disagree, it's right or wrong. That is a totally different conversation which, BY THE WAY, you did not care to start in a civil manner. You chose to be a whiny c*unt about it, which then you pointing fingers at anyone here makes you look like the biggest hypocrite lol.



    You want to stoop to this name-calling crap bro.....I'm done. Ignoring you and your ridiculous posts.

    When you post your opinion that is an open invitation for anyone to discuss said opinion. I suggest you just stop posting if you cannot handle it. 

    Someone calling it an "open-invitation" would be purely their poor interpretation. But in your case,0 like I said before, you just want to force yourself, with all the personal problems or whatever you're having, onto others. 
    You're the one who can't handle a bit of negative criticism towards something so irrelevant. And you had to make it personal... 
    Disgraceful, really.
  • remsleepremsleep Member EpicPosts: 1,955
    edited February 22
    remsleep said:
    When all is said and done I will have had 100+ hours of fun with my friends in Valheim for a cost of $20.

    If they never add content and I never load it up again it still ranks as one of the best gaming values I have had in a very long time.



    "value" is often brought up and I honestly think it misses the point.


    The only one missing the point here is you.

    He seems to even miss the point of a sandbox game...

    I found a picture of some guy, but I forgot to bookmark it...

    First picture was asking "What to do when you've beaten all the bosses ?"

    Second picture was showing a huge detailed fortress with lot of buildings, and people still building new stuff, and was saying "Now we finally can start to play the game".

    People spent years in creative mode in Minecraft.

    Funny you mention Minecraft- a game that has a creative mode and extensive player mod support.

    Guess which game doesn't have this?


  • remsleepremsleep Member EpicPosts: 1,955
    remsleep said:
    When all is said and done I will have had 100+ hours of fun with my friends in Valheim for a cost of $20.

    If they never add content and I never load it up again it still ranks as one of the best gaming values I have had in a very long time.



    "value" is often brought up and I honestly think it misses the point.


    The only one missing the point here is you.

    What point was missed? Please elaborate 
  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 3,879
    edited February 22

    aivarioha said:

    it is a terrible game, there is no one world when you could come an play. You need to have a group of people to play it.



    I play as solo just fine. My daughter and I also play on a LAN connection together sometimes. It's a very enjoyable experience for me.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,799
    remsleep said:
    remsleep said:
    When all is said and done I will have had 100+ hours of fun with my friends in Valheim for a cost of $20.

    If they never add content and I never load it up again it still ranks as one of the best gaming values I have had in a very long time.



    "value" is often brought up and I honestly think it misses the point.


    The only one missing the point here is you.

    What point was missed? Please elaborate 
    No I won't.  WE all get it... you do not.

    I even offered to buy you a copy of the game so you could demonstrate all the stuff you 3rd person Remsplain to us.  As though your watching a video invalidates 3 million people having a 96% positive experience for.   Naturally your response was NO.  When I say I will have had 100+ hours of fun, I mean just that.  Not that I will have had 3 hours of fun.  You don't believe that, or the 96% of people that say the game is great, well, that's on you.  Everyone can have an opinion but I'll take the opinions of people who actually experienced something over a person who 3rd person Remplains it away.

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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,613
    edited February 22
    There are no mods for Valheim - you've read it here first from our expert of this game, @remsleep...


    Is getting really embarrassing now.

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  • ShadanwolfShadanwolf Member UncommonPosts: 2,392
    Questions:
    you can play on someones server with maximum of 10 players ? Right so no mmog possibility's ?
  • remsleepremsleep Member EpicPosts: 1,955
    edited February 22
    There are no mods for Valheim - you've read it here first from our expert of this game, @remsleep...


    Is getting really embarrassing now.



    Embarrassing for you maybe - you said mentioned Minecraft's creative mode - which Valheim doesn't even have


    official page says it doesn't have it:

    https://www.valheimgame.com/faq





    you dont' understand the difference between 3rd party non-supported player created mods - and games that officially are made to have mod support and mod tools (like Minecraft) - lol, again how embarrassing ;)




    Valheim doesn't have mod support and devs have repeatedly said they will not have tools nor any mod support.

    So every time they patch - all the 3rd party unsupported mods will break - have fun with that.


    :D
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  • remsleepremsleep Member EpicPosts: 1,955
    edited February 22

    I even offered to buy you a copy of the game so you could demonstrate all the stuff you 3rd person Remsplain to us.  As though your watching a video invalidates 3 million people having a 96% positive experience for.   Naturally your response was NO.  When I say I will have had 100+ hours of fun, I mean just that.  Not that I will have had 3 hours of fun.  You don't believe that, or the 96% of people that say the game is great, well, that's on you.  Everyone can have an opinion but I'll take the opinions of people who actually experienced something over a person who 3rd person Remplains it away.


    I believe that you've had 100 hours of fun - I am just questioning that not all 100 hours were exactly the same "level of fun".

    that was my point.

    When people say well $20 = 100 hours - great value - I am questioning how much of those 100 hours were "peak fun" and how many were "sort of fun" 


    Because not all 100 were equally mind blowing fun - that I can guarantee you is not factual for any person.

    Even the games I most loved and have put over 1000 hours into - I can tell you that not all of those hours were equally fun  - maybe 20 out of 1000 were crazy super fun, but most were just sort of "average/ok fun"

    Bottom line - when players talk about money/time spent - they treat all time spent in game as equally fun - which is simply not true.

    Also please abstain from stooping down to dumb "nickname calling" - it doesn't suit you.



    And like I've said so many times before - I don't play any early access games period - so that was always going to be a no for me, which is no surprise.
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 18,576
    If anyone tries to claim the game is simply not for me,you need to give your head a shake.I love survival games,this game is simply CRAP at everything it does.

    I have watched way more than i cared to have watched but i have yet to see anything done as well as in Atlas/Ark and in most cases very sub par design.
    I should repeat,i LOVE survival games and am searching the net every day or two in hoeps of finding a new one worth playing.This game is NOT worth playing,not even for free and because i stated it does nothing well and definitely is not trying to do enough in taming/building/boating/mounts/bosses/world it all looks like some game made 15+ years ago.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,799
    edited February 22
    remsleep said:

    I even offered to buy you a copy of the game so you could demonstrate all the stuff you 3rd person Remsplain to us.  As though your watching a video invalidates 3 million people having a 96% positive experience for.   Naturally your response was NO.  When I say I will have had 100+ hours of fun, I mean just that.  Not that I will have had 3 hours of fun.  You don't believe that, or the 96% of people that say the game is great, well, that's on you.  Everyone can have an opinion but I'll take the opinions of people who actually experienced something over a person who 3rd person Remplains it away.


    I believe that you've had 100 hours of fun - I am just questioning that not all 100 hours were exactly the same "level of fun".

    that was my point.

    When people say well $20 = 100 hours - great value - I am questioning how much of those 100 hours were "peak fun" and how many were "sort of fun" 

    Because not all 100 were equally mind blowing fun - that I can guarantee you is not factual for any person.

    Even the games I most loved and have put over 1000 hours into - I can tell you that not all of those hours were equally fun  - maybe 20 out of 1000 were crazy super fun, but most were just sort of "average/ok fun"


    Also please abstain from stooping down to dumb "nickname calling" - it doesn't suit you.
    No.  IMHO "dumb" is trying to tell people that you are going to dissect the "level of fun" they are having in the game you never tried.  Because of some concept you developed around "peak fun" and "average/OK fun". 

    Actual Players: Man I had 5 hours of mindblowing sex last night!  It was amazing!
    You: Well only 10 seconds of that was "peak fun" so I think you are overstating the amount of fun you had.


    Please just stop.  
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  • remsleepremsleep Member EpicPosts: 1,955
    edited February 22
    remsleep said:

    I even offered to buy you a copy of the game so you could demonstrate all the stuff you 3rd person Remsplain to us.  As though your watching a video invalidates 3 million people having a 96% positive experience for.   Naturally your response was NO.  When I say I will have had 100+ hours of fun, I mean just that.  Not that I will have had 3 hours of fun.  You don't believe that, or the 96% of people that say the game is great, well, that's on you.  Everyone can have an opinion but I'll take the opinions of people who actually experienced something over a person who 3rd person Remplains it away.


    I believe that you've had 100 hours of fun - I am just questioning that not all 100 hours were exactly the same "level of fun".

    that was my point.

    When people say well $20 = 100 hours - great value - I am questioning how much of those 100 hours were "peak fun" and how many were "sort of fun" 

    Because not all 100 were equally mind blowing fun - that I can guarantee you is not factual for any person.

    Even the games I most loved and have put over 1000 hours into - I can tell you that not all of those hours were equally fun  - maybe 20 out of 1000 were crazy super fun, but most were just sort of "average/ok fun"


    Also please abstain from stooping down to dumb "nickname calling" - it doesn't suit you.
    No.  IMHO "dumb" is trying to tell people that you are going to dissect the "level of fun" they are having in the game you never tried.  Because of some concept you developed around "peak fun" and "average/OK fun". 

    Actual Players: Man I had 5 hours of mindblowing sex last night!  It was amazing!
    You: Well only 10 seconds of that was "peak fun" so I think you are overstating the amount of fun you had.


    Please just stop.  


    So when someone presents an idea or concept that differs from your own - you just tell them to just stop.

    Ok.

    I guess the only way to have discussions is if we all just agree on everything and don't have any differing opinions.


    BTW - the concept of "peak experience" has been around since 1964 - it is not a new concept nor is it something I came up with.



  • DafAtRandomDafAtRandom Member UncommonPosts: 106
    remsleep said:
    There are no mods for Valheim - you've read it here first from our expert of this game, @remsleep...


    Is getting really embarrassing now.



    Embarrassing for you maybe - you said mentioned Minecraft's creative mode - which Valheim doesn't even have


    official page says it doesn't have it:

    https://www.valheimgame.com/faq





    you dont' understand the difference between 3rd party non-supported player created mods - and games that officially are made to have mod support and mod tools (like Minecraft) - lol, again how embarrassing ;)




    Valheim doesn't have mod support and devs have repeatedly said they will not have tools nor any mod support.

    So every time they patch - all the 3rd party unsupported mods will break - have fun with that.


    :D

    Probably should take on Slap's offer.  The good news, is that it's on Steam, so you can get the refund within 2 hours of playing the game, meaning you (or anyone else) is NOT giving an EA title money, and 2 hours should be more than plenty of time for you to demonstrate the superiority you like to imply in every thread imaginable on the subject.
    Also on the good news front, I'm sure Slap has what it takes to record/stream the whole thing, so we can all finally bow to how much greater you are than all of us when you do prove said superiority.

    Then the refund can be issued, and the video can go up, and you can be forever known for being incredible.  Not that it has ever stopped you from implying it, but now for once in your life, there would be actual tangible proof.

    Unless, of course, you are what we all know that you are...
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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,613
    edited February 22
    Oh and Valheim also kinda has a creative mode BTW. Just like Minecraft, with no damage, flying... You just don't get unlimited resources but that's not a problem with the best stuff of the game.
    But you are the expert... And it's time to ignore your banter. You hate on every single game on this site, and it's getting boring now.
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  • remsleepremsleep Member EpicPosts: 1,955
    edited February 22

    Unless, of course, you are what we all know that you are...

    Oooh - the crushing thought of what complete forum strangers must think of me - how will I sleep tonight.

    Please... 


    Also please find and quote where I said that I am greater than anyone here - come on man, would I say something so dumb?

    All I said was that AI needs work - it's too easy to exploit - which I am yet to find someone who will dispute this point.

    What's the rush - once the game launched I'll get a chance to play it - are you concerned that maybe this might take years?

    you should be - because the track record for "early access" is pretty damn terrible - hopefully Valheim actually launches instead of staying in perpetual early access.
  • remsleepremsleep Member EpicPosts: 1,955
    edited February 22
    Oh and Valheim also had a creative mode BTW. Just like Minecraft, with no damage, flying...
    But you are the expert...

    Then FAQ on the official site is wrong? Old/outdated information? 

    Does it have a sandbox mode or not?
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,799
    remsleep said:
    remsleep said:

    I even offered to buy you a copy of the game so you could demonstrate all the stuff you 3rd person Remsplain to us.  As though your watching a video invalidates 3 million people having a 96% positive experience for.   Naturally your response was NO.  When I say I will have had 100+ hours of fun, I mean just that.  Not that I will have had 3 hours of fun.  You don't believe that, or the 96% of people that say the game is great, well, that's on you.  Everyone can have an opinion but I'll take the opinions of people who actually experienced something over a person who 3rd person Remplains it away.


    I believe that you've had 100 hours of fun - I am just questioning that not all 100 hours were exactly the same "level of fun".

    that was my point.

    When people say well $20 = 100 hours - great value - I am questioning how much of those 100 hours were "peak fun" and how many were "sort of fun" 

    Because not all 100 were equally mind blowing fun - that I can guarantee you is not factual for any person.

    Even the games I most loved and have put over 1000 hours into - I can tell you that not all of those hours were equally fun  - maybe 20 out of 1000 were crazy super fun, but most were just sort of "average/ok fun"


    Also please abstain from stooping down to dumb "nickname calling" - it doesn't suit you.
    No.  IMHO "dumb" is trying to tell people that you are going to dissect the "level of fun" they are having in the game you never tried.  Because of some concept you developed around "peak fun" and "average/OK fun". 

    Actual Players: Man I had 5 hours of mindblowing sex last night!  It was amazing!
    You: Well only 10 seconds of that was "peak fun" so I think you are overstating the amount of fun you had.


    Please just stop.  


    So when someone presents an idea or concept that differs from your own - you just tell them to just stop.

    Ok.

    I guess the only way to have discussions is if we all just agree on everything and don't have any differing opinions.

    Nope.  If you had PLAYED the game then you would be making an informed opinion/statement.  Which I might or might not agree with.

    What you have been doing with this game is making 3rd hand statements as though they have any weight when weighed against people with 1st hand experience.

    Did you see me tell anyone else in any Valheim thread, who actually played the game and didn't like it... that they were wrong?   

    Don't confuse that with what you have been doing.   You are literally, as in actually literally doing it... claiming that when I say I'll have had 100 hours of fun in this game, that I am playing... it's not legitimate because if I put in 1000 hours only "20 out of 1000 were crazy/super fun".  You literally said that.  Without ever playing the game.  In some lame ass attempt to devalue my claim to have had 100 hours of fun.  And again, lest we forget... you not only have never played the game to see for yourself, but you turned down my offer of a free account to experience it yourself instead of relying on cherrypicked Youtube videos.

    So yeah, everyone can have an opinion, but some are much more credible than others.

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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,613
    edited February 22
    Don't confuse that with what you have been doing.   You are literally, as in actually literally doing it... claiming that when I say I'll have had 100 hours of fun in this game, that I am playing... it's not legitimate because if I put in 1000 hours only "20 out of 1000 were crazy/super fun".  You literally said that.  Without ever playing the game.  In some lame ass attempt to devalue my claim to have had 100 hours of fun. 

    That part is definitively trolling to me. And quite a few other parts of his posts, by the way.

    But whatever. A shame the ignore function on this site doesn't work like on some other sites, where it also hides any quotes of the ignored person.

    Arguing is fine, it's the essence of forums, but arguing with a brick wall who didn't even play the game and who is using fake or twisted information sources (like that guy playing in god mode) is a waste of time. And when you produce FACTS (like that mod), he dismisses them with some more bullshit arguments, making up his own version of what a mod is. And he did that with plenty other games here, by the way.

    3.5 million players, 98% positive reviews, 500.000 concurrent players online. In his face.

    Let the people who enjoy more bashing games on a forums than playing them talk to the hand, and go back to playing. Don't let them waste more of your time, friends.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 4,121
    remsleep said:

    I even offered to buy you a copy of the game so you could demonstrate all the stuff you 3rd person Remsplain to us.  As though your watching a video invalidates 3 million people having a 96% positive experience for.   Naturally your response was NO.  When I say I will have had 100+ hours of fun, I mean just that.  Not that I will have had 3 hours of fun.  You don't believe that, or the 96% of people that say the game is great, well, that's on you.  Everyone can have an opinion but I'll take the opinions of people who actually experienced something over a person who 3rd person Remplains it away.


    I believe that you've had 100 hours of fun - I am just questioning that not all 100 hours were exactly the same "level of fun".

    that was my point.

    When people say well $20 = 100 hours - great value - I am questioning how much of those 100 hours were "peak fun" and how many were "sort of fun" 


    Because not all 100 were equally mind blowing fun - that I can guarantee you is not factual for any person.

    Even the games I most loved and have put over 1000 hours into - I can tell you that not all of those hours were equally fun  - maybe 20 out of 1000 were crazy super fun, but most were just sort of "average/ok fun"

    Bottom line - when players talk about money/time spent - they treat all time spent in game as equally fun - which is simply not true.

    Also please abstain from stooping down to dumb "nickname calling" - it doesn't suit you.



    And like I've said so many times before - I don't play any early access games period - so that was always going to be a no for me, which is no surprise.
    Then why? Why are you trying to explain a game you don't own or play to people who actually do own and play the game? You do realise that most of us here know tons more about it then you do? You pass around second hand knowledge based on exploits, cheap 'for clicks' video's and other minority voices, something you would have known if you actually had experience with the game. But you don't. 

    I don't get it, we should be telling you how it works and how good (or bad) it is, not the other way around. Especially not by cherry picking garbage video's that in no way properly represent the game. Something which you, once again, could have known if you actually played the damn thing.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir


    Jean-Luc_PicardBrainy
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • UtinniUtinni Member EpicPosts: 1,966
    Scot said:
    Utinni said:
    Scot said:
    Is this a game for solo though? "Concurrent", would like to see figures for group play and maybe this sort of game will help players realise grouped most of the time is viable in a MMO. Even in MMORPG's if the gameplay is done right. It really takes the survival sea biscuit when I find myself hoping the survival genre gets MMORPG players back into grouping! :)

    I group in each MMO I play. Which ones are you playing that don't have group content?
    The design is for solo in nearly every MMO out there, you can of course group if you want to. I assume you are not talking about group levelling as levelling content is solo content, but of course you can group in a game designed for soloing if you want.

    All of my most recent leveling adventures have been with a group. Sounds like you're just playing solo and saying everything is solo.
    Jean-Luc_Picard
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 8,000
    remsleep said:
    I hope they hire more devs - and dont' burn out and remain in "early access" forever like so many other games.

    Would love to see them beef up their dev team, finish the game and launch it.

    Right now the game has 5 biomes and 5 bosses - some have already beaten all of them and are basically waiting for more content to be added.

    Increasing the dev team size with all this initial success - would be the logical thing to do, so that players keep getting more content and improved gameplay.

    I haven't bought the game yet but this is my concern as well.......When I read about people not having anything to do in less than a month of game time, that is concerning.
  • remsleepremsleep Member EpicPosts: 1,955
    edited February 22
    lahnmir said:
    remsleep said:

    I even offered to buy you a copy of the game so you could demonstrate all the stuff you 3rd person Remsplain to us.  As though your watching a video invalidates 3 million people having a 96% positive experience for.   Naturally your response was NO.  When I say I will have had 100+ hours of fun, I mean just that.  Not that I will have had 3 hours of fun.  You don't believe that, or the 96% of people that say the game is great, well, that's on you.  Everyone can have an opinion but I'll take the opinions of people who actually experienced something over a person who 3rd person Remplains it away.


    I believe that you've had 100 hours of fun - I am just questioning that not all 100 hours were exactly the same "level of fun".

    that was my point.

    When people say well $20 = 100 hours - great value - I am questioning how much of those 100 hours were "peak fun" and how many were "sort of fun" 


    Because not all 100 were equally mind blowing fun - that I can guarantee you is not factual for any person.

    Even the games I most loved and have put over 1000 hours into - I can tell you that not all of those hours were equally fun  - maybe 20 out of 1000 were crazy super fun, but most were just sort of "average/ok fun"

    Bottom line - when players talk about money/time spent - they treat all time spent in game as equally fun - which is simply not true.

    Also please abstain from stooping down to dumb "nickname calling" - it doesn't suit you.



    And like I've said so many times before - I don't play any early access games period - so that was always going to be a no for me, which is no surprise.
    Then why? Why are you trying to explain a game you don't own or play to people who actually do own and play the game? You do realise that most of us here know tons more about it then you do? You pass around second hand knowledge based on exploits, cheap 'for clicks' video's and other minority voices, something you would have known if you actually had experience with the game. But you don't. 

    I don't get it, we should be telling you how it works and how good (or bad) it is, not the other way around. Especially not by cherry picking garbage video's that in no way properly represent the game. Something which you, once again, could have known if you actually played the damn thing.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir




    I have clearly explained above why.


     When a game has weak AI - you can clearly see it from twitch streams, videos etc... there are 100s of videos showing how to exploit Valheim AI - again I am yet to hear anyone claim that AI is good - on the contrary there seems to be an agreement that it needs work - which is what I am claiming

    saying that the only way to conclude the game has weak AI is to play it first hand is simply incorrect.

    Again don't misunderstand this that I am saying the game is "bad" - I've played many games with bad Ai and had quite a bit of fun - I am not saying (nor have I ever said) that Valheim is a "bad game" - this is something people have incorrectly inferred because I am criticizing the AI.

    The game is apparently quite good - but the AI needs work.

    There's a huge problem on forums (not just this one - but in general) where a singular criticism over a single aspect - such as AI - is extrapolated to mean "person X hates this game" - this is ludicrous.

    I don't hate valheim, I don't have anythign against it nor the devs - all I am saying is that AI needs work.
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 4,121
    remsleep said:
    I hope they hire more devs - and dont' burn out and remain in "early access" forever like so many other games.

    Would love to see them beef up their dev team, finish the game and launch it.

    Right now the game has 5 biomes and 5 bosses - some have already beaten all of them and are basically waiting for more content to be added.

    Increasing the dev team size with all this initial success - would be the logical thing to do, so that players keep getting more content and improved gameplay.

    I haven't bought the game yet but this is my concern as well.......When I read about people not having anything to do in less than a month of game time, that is concerning.
    It depends. The content isn't just the 5 biomes and 5 bosses, thats grossly misleading. Its a sandbox with a bit of themepark. Finishing the themepark part and saying there is no more content just isn't what this game is about. I only downed the first boss for instance. Not because I was ready but because Blue and Torval were with me and we decided to do it. I could have easily spend another week or two just doing my thing with building and exploring and not make any 'themepark progress' whatsoever.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    blueturtle13Torval
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • GroqstrongGroqstrong Member RarePosts: 572
    edited February 22
    I have been playing solo and can not bring myself to put it down.  There is definately a draw to the game.  I made my first major error this weekend. I left my staring zone after downing the 2nd boss and sailed pretty far south with a small trireme boat.  Upon landing I decided to explore the meadows a bit to find a perfect location to build my spawn point and portal.  Within a short distance I came across a massive village that seemed empty from afar and I could use the existing structures to build. Low and behold filled with high level mobs and I got smashed dropped all my stuff.

    Built a raft and sailed for 20min back to my loaction.  Spent my Sunday evening terraforming a hilltop with a moat surrounding it, where I will build a Fort to launch my adventure into the swamps.  Having a blast with all of it.

    10/10
    blueturtle13BrainyTorvalTacticalZombeh
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