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$15 is to little, $25 is too much.

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  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member RarePosts: 1,501
    Cant agree with the OP at all.

    *snip
    Does anybody? Ever?

    I don't know. Probably not. Does it matter? I don't think so. I expect many here don't agree with many of my posts.

    Agreement isn't something I seek. The most interesting discussions usually result from disagreement. Perhaps Delete feels the same.

    Regardless, his posts lead to such as often or not.
    Torval
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 29,398
    Aeander said:
    No thanks. The subscription model doesn't work because $15/mo is too much. For one game. That's more than a Netflix subscription. That's almost as much as Gamepass. For one game. And multiple games in this genre want to charge a subscription, basically making them mutually exclusive to most players. And then they double dip on selling you the content (that your subscription should be paying for) with expansions. And then they triple dip on selling you the content (that your subscription should be paying for) with cash shops.

    It does nothing for you anymore, and when the model fails, I'll say good riddance.
    The subscription model is egalitarian as it allows for everyone to pay the exact same thing for the same content (unless there is an additional cash shop of course).

    Otherwise you have the whales who are paying for the game. Then "great" not only is the financial health of the game dependent on a small group of people who may leave at any time but the developers are then beholden to that small group in order to keep them happy and paying.

    Many people have choices as far as how they spend their money. You can have several more cups of coffee per month or your sub.

    Can't afford to sub to 5 games? Well then cut something else out.

    Or don't sub to 5 games play one or two games per month in earnest.

    Playing the other side, I wonder if lowering to $10 per month would make it more palatable and lower the bar for more people.




    GdemamiIselinTorvalBrainy
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 6,440
    Sovrath said:
    Aeander said:
    No thanks. The subscription model doesn't work because $15/mo is too much. For one game. That's more than a Netflix subscription. That's almost as much as Gamepass. For one game. And multiple games in this genre want to charge a subscription, basically making them mutually exclusive to most players. And then they double dip on selling you the content (that your subscription should be paying for) with expansions. And then they triple dip on selling you the content (that your subscription should be paying for) with cash shops.

    It does nothing for you anymore, and when the model fails, I'll say good riddance.
    The subscription model is egalitarian as it allows for everyone to pay the exact same thing for the same content (unless there is an additional cash shop of course).

    Otherwise you have the whales who are paying for the game. Then "great" not only is the financial health of the game dependent on a small group of people who may leave at any time but the developers are then beholden to that small group in order to keep them happy and paying.

    Many people have choices as far as how they spend their money. You can have several more cups of coffee per month or your sub.

    Can't afford to sub to 5 games? Well then cut something else out.

    Or don't sub to 5 games play one or two games per month in earnest.

    Playing the other side, I wonder if lowering to $10 per month would make it more palatable and lower the bar for more people.




    It really isn't egalitarian. I can just as easily say that, just like battle passes, the model offers unequal value based on available time. Two players spend $15/month. Player A has 100 hours per month to play. Player B has 10 hours per month. Player A gets a $0.15/hour value. Player B gets a $1.50/hour value. Nothing egalitarian about that.
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member RarePosts: 1,501
    Sovrath said:

    Playing the other side, I wonder if lowering to $10 per month would make it more palatable and lower the bar for more people.


    Maybe, but what would that lower fee come along with? I expect a cash shop with intrusiveness somewhere between those or current subscription and f2p games.

    As an aside, Daybreak has a an annual subscription that works out to $10 a month, and it grants access to four games: EQ, EQ2, DCUO, and Planetside 2.

    That's a lot of subscription for the money, though each game comes with separate expansion costs so it would possibly be difficult to fully utilize them all.
    SovrathUngoodTorval
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 29,398
    Aeander said:
    Sovrath said:
    Aeander said:
    No thanks. The subscription model doesn't work because $15/mo is too much. For one game. That's more than a Netflix subscription. That's almost as much as Gamepass. For one game. And multiple games in this genre want to charge a subscription, basically making them mutually exclusive to most players. And then they double dip on selling you the content (that your subscription should be paying for) with expansions. And then they triple dip on selling you the content (that your subscription should be paying for) with cash shops.

    It does nothing for you anymore, and when the model fails, I'll say good riddance.
    The subscription model is egalitarian as it allows for everyone to pay the exact same thing for the same content (unless there is an additional cash shop of course).

    Otherwise you have the whales who are paying for the game. Then "great" not only is the financial health of the game dependent on a small group of people who may leave at any time but the developers are then beholden to that small group in order to keep them happy and paying.

    Many people have choices as far as how they spend their money. You can have several more cups of coffee per month or your sub.

    Can't afford to sub to 5 games? Well then cut something else out.

    Or don't sub to 5 games play one or two games per month in earnest.

    Playing the other side, I wonder if lowering to $10 per month would make it more palatable and lower the bar for more people.




    It really isn't egalitarian. I can just as easily say that, just like battle passes, the model offers unequal value based on available time. Two players spend $15/month. Player A has 100 hours per month to play. Player B has 10 hours per month. Player A gets a $0.15/hour value. Player B gets a $1.50/hour value. Nothing egalitarian about that.
    It's egalitarian as far as monthly cost.

    If a player wants to play more or less well that's up to them and a completely different topic.

    Because if you want to break it down like that then cash shops have the potential to be unbalanced as well.

    I think it just comes down to some people trying to pay the barest minimum if anything at all and screaming that they can't continue to do that.


    SandmanjwKyleranIselintzervoTorval
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 6,440
    Sovrath said:

    Playing the other side, I wonder if lowering to $10 per month would make it more palatable and lower the bar for more people.


    Maybe, but what would that lower fee come along with? I expect a cash shop with intrusiveness somewhere between those or current subscription and f2p games.

    As an aside, Daybreak has a an annual subscription that works out to $10 a month, and it grants access to four games: EQ, EQ2, DCUO, and Planetside 2.

    That's a lot of subscription for the money, though each game comes with separate expansion costs so it would possibly be difficult to fully utilize them all.
    A great value on the surface, but all of those are very old games that get questionable support.
    Jean-Luc_Picard
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 5,183
    edited February 8
    I was reading this, and thinking that I didn't stop paying a sub till around 2015, when I was playing GW2, and I was so upset about HoT, that I didn't buy my normal $20, it was the first time that was like... Eh.. Nahh.

    TBH, I also stopped playing about a month later. Returned for PoF, played for a few months, but also.. didn't spend any money on the store, It was odd, I opened up the store and was like.. Meh.. nahh.  and while I have an off again on again relationship with GW2, since HoT, I just don't feel any drive or urge to really buy anything. 

    I mean, I kept to my convictions and bought all the Living World packs that I didn't already own.. but that was me, standing by my ideals, I still have not played them.. so there is that minor problem as well.

    I am 100% sure that if they asked for a Sub, I never would have returned to buy the PoF expansion, and just deleted it from my computer, like I have many other games.

    Same with DDO. I Burn out and take breaks, often when I return, if they have not made the game a bigger dumpster fire, which, sadly, is a crap shot, because, for as good as they game system is, I  have been informed that the Dev team is, ummm.. let me try to put a positive twist on that, the Dev team is honest enough to come forth and admitted they lack the ability, skills and talent to fix the vast majority of their processing problems with them game, so, kudos for their honesty at least, anyway, if they have not set something else on fire in the game, I often will try to find something to buy, otherwise.. I get a reminder of why I have an On Again/ Off Again, relationship with DDO as well.
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member RarePosts: 557
    Back then server costs and admin were legit to a company and cut into the $15.  Today's tech and competition, the cost structure is much lower and the company can keep more of the $15.

    So it doesn't scale with individual players like it once did.

    I agree with Wizardry, a BOP is not enough for a AAA mmorpg experience.  I personally like the ESO model (I sub).  $15 or BOP + cashshop is acceptable choices. 

  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member RarePosts: 1,501
    Aeander said:
    Sovrath said:

    Playing the other side, I wonder if lowering to $10 per month would make it more palatable and lower the bar for more people.


    Maybe, but what would that lower fee come along with? I expect a cash shop with intrusiveness somewhere between those or current subscription and f2p games.

    As an aside, Daybreak has a an annual subscription that works out to $10 a month, and it grants access to four games: EQ, EQ2, DCUO, and Planetside 2.

    That's a lot of subscription for the money, though each game comes with separate expansion costs so it would possibly be difficult to fully utilize them all.
    A great value on the surface, but all of those are very old games that get questionable support.

    It's a great value for anyone that wants to play those games, who I expect already know that most of them are pretty old.

    I don't pay much attention to everything that comes out for them, but both Everquest games seem to get expansions pretty often.

    That they are still marketable to that degree I find pretty interesting, along with other older MMORPGs that continue to bring in money.
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 5,183
    Blizzard CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid 30 Million.
    ESO, Director, Matt Firor, made 8.5 Million.

    So.. Obviously.. 15 a month is more than enough to pay all the bills and give their Dude in Charge a several million dollar paycheck.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 37,219
    edited February 8
    Ungood said:
    Blizzard CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid 30 Million.
    ESO, Director, Matt Firor, made 8.5 Million.

    So.. Obviously.. 15 a month is more than enough to pay all the bills and give their Dude in Charge a several million dollar paycheck.
    Looking at those numbers I would say Bobby is underpaid, considering he overseas a stable of successful games while Matt's just a director in charge of one game?
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 5,183
    Kyleran said:
    Ungood said:
    Blizzard CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid 30 Million.
    ESO, Director, Matt Firor, made 8.5 Million.

    So.. Obviously.. 15 a month is more than enough to pay all the bills and give their Dude in Charge a several million dollar paycheck.
    Looking at those numbers I would say Bobby is underpaid, considering he overseas a stable of successful games while Matt's just a director in charge of one game?
    Reality is, both, Bobby and Matt, are vastly overpaid.

    When you consider that, Kim Taek-Jin, the CEO of NcSoft, that owns GW2, as well as Aion, Linage, Linage II, Blade & Soul and a slew of other games, with a vast mobile game presence, is only paid 11 Million.

    Which, some might argue is what is wrong with America. But, regardless of your view on that.

    If they can pay 1 person that level of stupid amounts of money.. $15 a month is asking too much if you ask me.
    Gdemami
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 29,398
    Ungood said:
    Kyleran said:
    Ungood said:
    Blizzard CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid 30 Million.
    ESO, Director, Matt Firor, made 8.5 Million.

    So.. Obviously.. 15 a month is more than enough to pay all the bills and give their Dude in Charge a several million dollar paycheck.
    Looking at those numbers I would say Bobby is underpaid, considering he overseas a stable of successful games while Matt's just a director in charge of one game?
    Reality is, both, Bobby and Matt, are vastly overpaid.

    When you consider that, Kim Taek-Jin, the CEO of NcSoft, that owns GW2, as well as Aion, Linage, Linage II, Blade & Soul and a slew of other games, with a vast mobile game presence, is only paid 11 Million.

    Which, some might argue is what is wrong with America. But, regardless of your view on that.

    If they can pay 1 person that level of stupid amounts of money.. $15 a month is asking too much if you ask me.

    That doesn't make any sense.

    They are under no obligation to charge less and take away the rate that these people negotiated. They want x person then they are going to have to pay that person what they want.

    I can't see many companies saying "let's charge our customers less by lowering our employee salaries."


    Gdemami
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 7,999
    Camelot Unchained plans to have cheaper monthly sub than traditional MMORPGs. Crowfall has optional monthly sub (VIP).

    Overall I think that paying $15 per month for +75 hours of enjoyment is pretty cheap (compared to $30 for 3 hours of ski, or $20 for 2 hours of cinema).
    Ski and cinema is next, if we continue to print money.

    Gambling will be on the upswing, odd way get out of money problems, but it's what people do. 

    $15 for all that game time is cheap, but why are people now complaining even without box price ?....... 2004 no one complained.

    2004 there was no other option......
    BruceYee
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member RarePosts: 1,501
    Ungood said:
    Blizzard CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid 30 Million.
    ESO, Director, Matt Firor, made 8.5 Million.

    So.. Obviously.. 15 a month is more than enough to pay all the bills and give their Dude in Charge a several million dollar paycheck.

    You can't simply take the salaries of two executives from two companies and make a straight comparison. There are a host of factors involved that come into play at that level of employment. The level of responsibility is vastly different to say the least.
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member RarePosts: 1,501
    Ungood said:
    Kyleran said:
    Ungood said:
    Blizzard CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid 30 Million.
    ESO, Director, Matt Firor, made 8.5 Million.

    So.. Obviously.. 15 a month is more than enough to pay all the bills and give their Dude in Charge a several million dollar paycheck.
    Looking at those numbers I would say Bobby is underpaid, considering he overseas a stable of successful games while Matt's just a director in charge of one game?
    Reality is, both, Bobby and Matt, are vastly overpaid.

    When you consider that, Kim Taek-Jin, the CEO of NcSoft, that owns GW2, as well as Aion, Linage, Linage II, Blade & Soul and a slew of other games, with a vast mobile game presence, is only paid 11 Million.

    Which, some might argue is what is wrong with America. But, regardless of your view on that.

    If they can pay 1 person that level of stupid amounts of money.. $15 a month is asking too much if you ask me.
    People are worth the salary they can command, as is evidenced by their employer being willing to pay them that much for their services.

    It's not just like anyone can fill these senior positions, or that those qualified perform at a homogeneous level. For those thought worth it demand for their services drives up the cost just like anything else in short supply.
    Kyleran
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 5,183
    Sovrath said:
    Ungood said:
    Kyleran said:
    Ungood said:
    Blizzard CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid 30 Million.
    ESO, Director, Matt Firor, made 8.5 Million.

    So.. Obviously.. 15 a month is more than enough to pay all the bills and give their Dude in Charge a several million dollar paycheck.
    Looking at those numbers I would say Bobby is underpaid, considering he overseas a stable of successful games while Matt's just a director in charge of one game?
    Reality is, both, Bobby and Matt, are vastly overpaid.

    When you consider that, Kim Taek-Jin, the CEO of NcSoft, that owns GW2, as well as Aion, Linage, Linage II, Blade & Soul and a slew of other games, with a vast mobile game presence, is only paid 11 Million.

    Which, some might argue is what is wrong with America. But, regardless of your view on that.

    If they can pay 1 person that level of stupid amounts of money.. $15 a month is asking too much if you ask me.

    That doesn't make any sense.

    They are under no obligation to charge less and take away the rate that these people negotiated. They want x person then they are going to have to pay that person what they want.

    I can't see many companies saying "let's charge our customers less by lowering our employee salaries."


    Sure it does.

    If they have the money to spare to pay Bobby 30 Million, they are making more than enough off their 15 a month, and in fact, IMHO, too Much as it were, if they can toss out 30 million so frivolously on one employee.
    IselinTheocritusGdemamiTorval
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 5,183
    Ungood said:
    Blizzard CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid 30 Million.
    ESO, Director, Matt Firor, made 8.5 Million.

    So.. Obviously.. 15 a month is more than enough to pay all the bills and give their Dude in Charge a several million dollar paycheck.

    You can't simply take the salaries of two executives from two companies and make a straight comparison. There are a host of factors involved that come into play at that level of employment. The level of responsibility is vastly different to say the least.
    If they are making so much money that they can pay 1 person 30 Million a year, they are making more than enough off their 15/month sub.

    That is a Mic Drop.

    When they have to cut the CEO's salary in half, then they can come cry to me that they are not making enough, as long as they can foot insane numbers like 8 million and 30 million for a single executive.. they making too much already.

    Now, 30 Million for Bobby, and yet this is the guy that signed off firing 800 employees after a banner year.

    To really grasp that, the Median Income in America is 31K a year, that means, 800 employees would be less then Bobby's paycheck, and he would still have roughly 5 million left to blow.


    Gdemami
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 15,103
    Ungood said:
    Sovrath said:
    Ungood said:
    Kyleran said:
    Ungood said:
    Blizzard CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid 30 Million.
    ESO, Director, Matt Firor, made 8.5 Million.

    So.. Obviously.. 15 a month is more than enough to pay all the bills and give their Dude in Charge a several million dollar paycheck.
    Looking at those numbers I would say Bobby is underpaid, considering he overseas a stable of successful games while Matt's just a director in charge of one game?
    Reality is, both, Bobby and Matt, are vastly overpaid.

    When you consider that, Kim Taek-Jin, the CEO of NcSoft, that owns GW2, as well as Aion, Linage, Linage II, Blade & Soul and a slew of other games, with a vast mobile game presence, is only paid 11 Million.

    Which, some might argue is what is wrong with America. But, regardless of your view on that.

    If they can pay 1 person that level of stupid amounts of money.. $15 a month is asking too much if you ask me.

    That doesn't make any sense.

    They are under no obligation to charge less and take away the rate that these people negotiated. They want x person then they are going to have to pay that person what they want.

    I can't see many companies saying "let's charge our customers less by lowering our employee salaries."


    Sure it does.

    If they have the money to spare to pay Bobby 30 Million, they are making more than enough off their 15 a month, and in fact, IMHO, too Much as it were, if they can toss out 30 million so frivolously on one employee.
    Remember Jesse Ventura, the wrestler and former governor of Minnesota?

    He said something considered downright heretical to those of the capitalist faith: that there should be a maximum wage. The commie, pinko gall!

    Interesting idea, though. 

    GdemamiTorval
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 5,183
    Iselin said:
    Ungood said:
    Sovrath said:
    Ungood said:
    Kyleran said:
    Ungood said:
    Blizzard CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid 30 Million.
    ESO, Director, Matt Firor, made 8.5 Million.

    So.. Obviously.. 15 a month is more than enough to pay all the bills and give their Dude in Charge a several million dollar paycheck.
    Looking at those numbers I would say Bobby is underpaid, considering he overseas a stable of successful games while Matt's just a director in charge of one game?
    Reality is, both, Bobby and Matt, are vastly overpaid.

    When you consider that, Kim Taek-Jin, the CEO of NcSoft, that owns GW2, as well as Aion, Linage, Linage II, Blade & Soul and a slew of other games, with a vast mobile game presence, is only paid 11 Million.

    Which, some might argue is what is wrong with America. But, regardless of your view on that.

    If they can pay 1 person that level of stupid amounts of money.. $15 a month is asking too much if you ask me.

    That doesn't make any sense.

    They are under no obligation to charge less and take away the rate that these people negotiated. They want x person then they are going to have to pay that person what they want.

    I can't see many companies saying "let's charge our customers less by lowering our employee salaries."


    Sure it does.

    If they have the money to spare to pay Bobby 30 Million, they are making more than enough off their 15 a month, and in fact, IMHO, too Much as it were, if they can toss out 30 million so frivolously on one employee.
    Remember Jesse Ventura, the wrestler and former governor of Minnesota?

    He said something considered downright heretical to those of the capitalist faith: that there should be a maximum wage. The commie, pinko gall!

    Interesting idea, though. 

    I don't believe there should be a cap.. but don't cry to me your company is not making enough and you need to lay off employees when you can dump 30 million on one employee.
    Gdemami
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 15,103
    Ungood said:
    Iselin said:
    Ungood said:
    Sovrath said:
    Ungood said:
    Kyleran said:
    Ungood said:
    Blizzard CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid 30 Million.
    ESO, Director, Matt Firor, made 8.5 Million.

    So.. Obviously.. 15 a month is more than enough to pay all the bills and give their Dude in Charge a several million dollar paycheck.
    Looking at those numbers I would say Bobby is underpaid, considering he overseas a stable of successful games while Matt's just a director in charge of one game?
    Reality is, both, Bobby and Matt, are vastly overpaid.

    When you consider that, Kim Taek-Jin, the CEO of NcSoft, that owns GW2, as well as Aion, Linage, Linage II, Blade & Soul and a slew of other games, with a vast mobile game presence, is only paid 11 Million.

    Which, some might argue is what is wrong with America. But, regardless of your view on that.

    If they can pay 1 person that level of stupid amounts of money.. $15 a month is asking too much if you ask me.

    That doesn't make any sense.

    They are under no obligation to charge less and take away the rate that these people negotiated. They want x person then they are going to have to pay that person what they want.

    I can't see many companies saying "let's charge our customers less by lowering our employee salaries."


    Sure it does.

    If they have the money to spare to pay Bobby 30 Million, they are making more than enough off their 15 a month, and in fact, IMHO, too Much as it were, if they can toss out 30 million so frivolously on one employee.
    Remember Jesse Ventura, the wrestler and former governor of Minnesota?

    He said something considered downright heretical to those of the capitalist faith: that there should be a maximum wage. The commie, pinko gall!

    Interesting idea, though. 

    I don't believe there should be a cap.. but don't cry to me your company is not making enough and you need to lay off employees when you can dump 30 million on one employee.
    But they don't cry about it. They just quietly go about the business of making ever increasing amounts of money.

    They don't need to cry because they have legions of devoted fans that do the crying for them.
    UngoodGdemamiTorval
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    __ Wizardry, 2020
  • tzervotzervo Member RarePosts: 938

    so players are giving money to the company who put this things there to force you to pay?

    so tell me how its essencially diference btw this and protection money?, or highwaymen who tell people to pay then so they can travel safe over the road?
    Choice. You can choose to pay and play another game.
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 7,999
    "Now, 30 Million for Bobby, and yet this is the guy that signed off firing 800 employees after a banner year."

    Better to fire him and keep the 800...The workers are what make these companies go, not the executives.

    UngoodGdemami
  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member EpicPosts: 2,121
    Ungood said:
    Blizzard CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid 30 Million.
    ESO, Director, Matt Firor, made 8.5 Million.

    So.. Obviously.. 15 a month is more than enough to pay all the bills and give their Dude in Charge a several million dollar paycheck.

    Blizz makes more soley from Hearthstone(mobile).

    Not sure where you're getting the the "15 a month" cause have you seen their cash shops?

    That pay for the amount of overhead they have/company worth 'relatively' is not a completely unreasonable amount of money.

    My boss makes 2 million a year and we are a 25 person non-publically traded business...

    In other news... Gamigo just bought KingsIsle...
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member RarePosts: 1,501
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    Blizzard CEO, Bobby Kotick, is paid 30 Million.
    ESO, Director, Matt Firor, made 8.5 Million.

    So.. Obviously.. 15 a month is more than enough to pay all the bills and give their Dude in Charge a several million dollar paycheck.

    You can't simply take the salaries of two executives from two companies and make a straight comparison. There are a host of factors involved that come into play at that level of employment. The level of responsibility is vastly different to say the least.
    If they are making so much money that they can pay 1 person 30 Million a year, they are making more than enough off their 15/month sub.

    That is a Mic Drop.

    When they have to cut the CEO's salary in half, then they can come cry to me that they are not making enough, as long as they can foot insane numbers like 8 million and 30 million for a single executive.. they making too much already.

    Now, 30 Million for Bobby, and yet this is the guy that signed off firing 800 employees after a banner year.

    To really grasp that, the Median Income in America is 31K a year, that means, 800 employees would be less then Bobby's paycheck, and he would still have roughly 5 million left to blow.



    A mic drop?! That was convincing.

    I'm sure their negotiated salaries will be tossed out immediately and their compensation will be adjusted in accordance with your analysis.

    The only thing I need to grasp is people are worth whatever others are willing to pay them. They wouldn't be paid that if their employers didn't feel it so.
    Kyleran
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