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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 18,779
    Even if you don't like Atlas and i understand WHY ,go play Ark then the devs seem to favor Ark for developing and is 100x the game Valheim ever will be.
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 21,129
    My ARK character randomly drops turds all the time. I find it idiotic, disgusting, and juvenile. It ruins anything else the game has to offer. Their fantasy clone Dark and Light is much better in my opinion. It's also completely different in play and feel from Valheim.

    ARK feels like gaming in a survival server. Valheim I find immersive as if I've been pulled into a D&D outer plane in a fantasy viking campaign. To me Valheim often feels like how I remember playing 1st Edition AD&D only with all the character levels, stats, and die rolls hidden. It feels like a focused campaign where we play a specialized fighter type on a quest to please Odin and redeem ourselves. I never get that playing ARK or even Conan Exiles (although it's better than ARK in a lot of ways).
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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 4,838
    edited March 5
    Seems like we have to send Wizardry to the Greyling Rehabilitation Institute too. Maybe him and remsleep can share a cell err room. ;)

    Wizardry how about you play and gush over the games you want to play and I will do the same with the ones I want to (which wont be ark/atlas), especially in my own damn thread.

    Why is he even trying to compare a game that started development in 2014 and fully released (with bugs and all) in 2017 to a game that has only been out in EA for a month.

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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 1,964
    Wizardry said:
    Even if you don't like Atlas and i understand WHY ,go play Ark then the devs seem to favor Ark for developing and is 100x the game Valheim ever will be.
    BaaaHaahahahah.  


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  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 9,141
    Asheram said:
    Seems like we have to send Wizardry to the Greyling Rehabilitation Institute too. Maybe him and remsleep can share a cell err room. ;)

    Wizardry how about you play and gush over the games you want to play and I will do the same with the ones I want to (which wont be ark/atlas), especially in my own damn thread.

    Why is he even trying to compare a game that started development in 2014 and fully released (with bugs and all) in 2017 to a game that has only been out in EA for a month.




    What if they are really anti-game lemmings pretending they are gamers, but find it difficult because they don't play any game and hate them all?



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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 6,463
    edited March 5
    Asheram said:
    That was funny. I turned all the earth moving and screen shaking off. It will give me a massive headache if I left it on. I can barely tolerate watching a video with it on.
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  • WargfootWargfoot Member RarePosts: 455
    I was going to get this title but then I read what Wizardry had to say about it.
    Hard pass.
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  • cameltosiscameltosis Member EpicPosts: 2,892
    So, I tried ARK: Survival Evolved for the first time this week.

    I gotta say, I had way more fun in that game than I did in Valheim, despite the fact that they are basically identical.


    Main things that put ARK above Valheim for me:


    1) Dinosaurs!
    They just add so much to the game. They are great to look at visually. They are dangerous to fight. They are fun to tame. They are very useful to ride or to use to gather resources.


    2) Server Settings
    I was playing co-op with my brother and he setup the session, giving us much quicker gathering speeds, double resources and a few other bonuses. This meant we had to spend far less time doing the boring stuff (gathering) and far more time doing the fun stuff (exploring, building, fighting, taming). I understand there is a mod for Valheim that now does this sort of thing - valheim+ - but would have been great to have out of the box.


    3) Setting / theme
    Despite being a vikings fan, I found the world of valheim pretty boring and I wasn't inspired to explore much. By contract, the tropical island in ARK kept me excited when exploring, both for the beautiful vistas as well as the exciting dinosaurs.



    These are just personal preferences ofc, like i said, the games are basically identical in terms of gameplay so there really isn't much difference at all. I think I'll give Valheim another shot with valheim+ so I can cut down on the boring gathering part.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 13,181
    I think the gameplay is dramatically different between ARK and Valheim. 

    Personally I just could never get into ARK.  Of the ARK games... I really enjoyed Dark and Light for a shirt time (it has super limited content) and I liked ATLAS (private server).  I just could not get into ARK, even though it was the basis for the other two.


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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 4,838
    edited March 5
    So, I tried ARK: Survival Evolved for the first time this week.

    I gotta say, I had way more fun in that game than I did in Valheim, despite the fact that they are basically identical.


    Main things that put ARK above Valheim for me:


    1) Dinosaurs!
    They just add so much to the game. They are great to look at visually. They are dangerous to fight. They are fun to tame. They are very useful to ride or to use to gather resources.


    2) Server Settings
    I was playing co-op with my brother and he setup the session, giving us much quicker gathering speeds, double resources and a few other bonuses. This meant we had to spend far less time doing the boring stuff (gathering) and far more time doing the fun stuff (exploring, building, fighting, taming). I understand there is a mod for Valheim that now does this sort of thing - valheim+ - but would have been great to have out of the box.


    3) Setting / theme
    Despite being a vikings fan, I found the world of valheim pretty boring and I wasn't inspired to explore much. By contract, the tropical island in ARK kept me excited when exploring, both for the beautiful vistas as well as the exciting dinosaurs.



    These are just personal preferences ofc, like i said, the games are basically identical in terms of gameplay so there really isn't much difference at all. I think I'll give Valheim another shot with valheim+ so I can cut down on the boring gathering part.
    So couldnt you have made a Ark thread to post this in?
    The Greyling Rehabilitation Facility is filling up fast.
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  • cameltosiscameltosis Member EpicPosts: 2,892
    Asheram said:
    So, I tried ARK: Survival Evolved for the first time this week.

    I gotta say, I had way more fun in that game than I did in Valheim, despite the fact that they are basically identical.


    Main things that put ARK above Valheim for me:


    1) Dinosaurs!
    They just add so much to the game. They are great to look at visually. They are dangerous to fight. They are fun to tame. They are very useful to ride or to use to gather resources.


    2) Server Settings
    I was playing co-op with my brother and he setup the session, giving us much quicker gathering speeds, double resources and a few other bonuses. This meant we had to spend far less time doing the boring stuff (gathering) and far more time doing the fun stuff (exploring, building, fighting, taming). I understand there is a mod for Valheim that now does this sort of thing - valheim+ - but would have been great to have out of the box.


    3) Setting / theme
    Despite being a vikings fan, I found the world of valheim pretty boring and I wasn't inspired to explore much. By contract, the tropical island in ARK kept me excited when exploring, both for the beautiful vistas as well as the exciting dinosaurs.



    These are just personal preferences ofc, like i said, the games are basically identical in terms of gameplay so there really isn't much difference at all. I think I'll give Valheim another shot with valheim+ so I can cut down on the boring gathering part.
    So couldnt you have made a Ark thread to post this in?
    The Greyling Rehabilitation Facility is filling up fast.

    As both games are basically the same thing, as well as being in the same genre, and I recently bought and tried Valheim, I felt it was appropriate for this thread.
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  • TokkenTokken Member RarePosts: 2,658
    edited March 6
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    Vikings... the new trend.
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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 4,838
    edited March 6
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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 4,838
    So very Valheim 

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  • TimukasTimukas Member UncommonPosts: 743
    Asheram said:
    So, I tried ARK: Survival Evolved for the first time this week.

    I gotta say, I had way more fun in that game than I did in Valheim, despite the fact that they are basically identical.


    Main things that put ARK above Valheim for me:


    1) Dinosaurs!
    They just add so much to the game. They are great to look at visually. They are dangerous to fight. They are fun to tame. They are very useful to ride or to use to gather resources.


    2) Server Settings
    I was playing co-op with my brother and he setup the session, giving us much quicker gathering speeds, double resources and a few other bonuses. This meant we had to spend far less time doing the boring stuff (gathering) and far more time doing the fun stuff (exploring, building, fighting, taming). I understand there is a mod for Valheim that now does this sort of thing - valheim+ - but would have been great to have out of the box.


    3) Setting / theme
    Despite being a vikings fan, I found the world of valheim pretty boring and I wasn't inspired to explore much. By contract, the tropical island in ARK kept me excited when exploring, both for the beautiful vistas as well as the exciting dinosaurs.



    These are just personal preferences ofc, like i said, the games are basically identical in terms of gameplay so there really isn't much difference at all. I think I'll give Valheim another shot with valheim+ so I can cut down on the boring gathering part.
    So couldnt you have made a Ark thread to post this in?
    The Greyling Rehabilitation Facility is filling up fast.

    As both games are basically the same thing, as well as being in the same genre, and I recently bought and tried Valheim, I felt it was appropriate for this thread.
    To each his own I guess. I've played ARK for many hundreds of hours but I like Valheim more. Also, ARK has been out for years after years of early access (during which they sold dlc). In my opinion Valheim devs have shown how to do early access - it needs more content, sure, but it's been fun and basically bug free first month.
  • FaileasFaileas Member UncommonPosts: 84
    Tokken said:
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    Vikings... the new trend.
    What's with all the viking theme'd games coming out recently? Supposedly there's a viking MMO coming out called Odin Valhalla Rising this year. From what I've heard it's going to be F2P, but I could be mistaken. I don't know if I'd be bothered to play it though, vikings aren't exactly my cup of tea... They were bloodthirsty barbarians with no manners. ;) Give me an MMO about Hindu lore and mythology... Much more deep and profound.
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  • FaileasFaileas Member UncommonPosts: 84
    remsleep said:
    Faileas said:
    What's with all the viking theme'd games coming out recently? Supposedly there's a viking MMO coming out called Odin Valhalla Rising this year. From what I've heard it's going to be F2P, but I could be mistaken.


    Odin Valhalla Rising - you mean that asian anime themed "viking" game where girls are in high heels with the stereo-typical high pitched anime voices?

    It's so "viking" lol

    Just because you take a generic asian MMO and you slap "Odin" in the title - doesn't really mean that you managed to do the actual Viking theme any justice
    Haha, okay. You're right. I thought the name sounded a little suspicious when I read it for the first time. Odin... Valhalla... What else sounds vinking-y enough? Thor? Odin Valhalla Thor! Let's add Rising there for good measure. ;) Hm... On closer inspection it does look very... Asian. Too bad for the one's who were hoping to play an actual viking MMO then. Maybe if they removed the anime chicks it would have more potential. :) 
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  • FaileasFaileas Member UncommonPosts: 84
    remsleep said:
    Some studios just shouldn't do certain themes - 

    Imagine going down to a ranch town in Texas - and asking the locals to do a project that is "Ch'in Dynasty of the 3rd century B.C" theme.

    It's not going to be authentic  - I can guarantee you that.
    Actually, I could imagine that... And as a matter of fact, I would wholeheartedly embrace it. I'd love to see how a little Texaian town handles "Ch'in Dynasty of the 3rd Century B.C". It's probably going to be an exciting mixture of wildwest meets cool Chinese dragons and martial arts. 

    Korean Studios - probably should not do Viking themes, not by re-skinning existing assets and using the existing asian game voice packs - I mean there's low effort and then there's "at least we tried very hard".

    Aw man, give them a break will ya! It's just their take on things. Nobody has a monopoly on culture. I'm pretty sure that the Scandinavians of today with their neoliberalism would not fit well with the Viking's "sense" of warmongering politics.

    As much shit as I give BDO - PA at least managed to pull off a western looking theme pretty well for the most part.

    Have you seen the trailer for Crimson Desert yet? It looks SO, SO Western. Dem characters look more Western than I do, it's scary. I'd be interested to see what the storyline is going to be like, but from the looks of things it's most likely going to be a gamified "Game of Thrones". And I don't just say that because the main character looks like John Snow's twin brother...
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  • FaileasFaileas Member UncommonPosts: 84
    remsleep said:
    Crimson Desert - looks fantastic - BDO in many parts looks fantastic as well - I always thought that was a strong point of Pearl Abyss games - graphcis.
    I haven't played BDO... YET, I had to stop myself from playing it because I've heard too many people complain that it's just another surprise, surprise, Korean grindfest. The graphics do look amazing, but I'm scared to death that I'm going to end up heartbroken if I invest anymore of my time on it.

    I am waiting to hear more details on Crimson Desert - specifically the MMO elements - because they started off saying it's more like a single player game but now are more and more talking about MMO elements.

    So curious to see what it ends up being

    If Crimson Desert turns out to be an MMO, I'm going to loose my sh*t. Finally an MMO that looks EXACTLY like my wildest dreams. Fingers crossed...

    I hope they do it justice and not another fem-boy like the archer :/



    Oh my Lord, he looks prettier than me and I'm a girl. :( 


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  • cameltosiscameltosis Member EpicPosts: 2,892
    Faileas said:
    Tokken said:
    undefined

    Vikings... the new trend.
    What's with all the viking theme'd games coming out recently? Supposedly there's a viking MMO coming out called Odin Valhalla Rising this year. From what I've heard it's going to be F2P, but I could be mistaken. I don't know if I'd be bothered to play it though, vikings aren't exactly my cup of tea... They were bloodthirsty barbarians with no manners. ;) Give me an MMO about Hindu lore and mythology... Much more deep and profound.

    It's just a time delay issue.


    Vikings have become very popular on TV. The main series "Vikings" is pretty awesome, then you've got series like The Last Kingdom and Norsemen on top of others which have broadened appeal over the last several years.


    But, it takes a long time to make a game, which is why it's taken a while for that trend in television to make its way into the gaming world. I'm happy it is though, I love the viking aesthetic and the lore (even though a lot of the aesthetic is completely made up)


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  • FaileasFaileas Member UncommonPosts: 84
    remsleep said:
    Faileas said:



    Oh my Lord, he looks prettier than me and I'm a girl. :( 




    The archer in RL would be in the top 1% prettiest girls on the planet


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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 21,129
    This is a Valheim thread, not BDO. Can we stay on topic please?
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