Crowfall revival?

YashaX

KiraTV put out an interesting video talking about Crowfall's new patch. He raises some interesting questions like is it good to have players constantly participating in testing and development, and whether having multiple test servers diluting an already thread bare population is really such a good idea.

Iselin

It is weird having beta and betaest servers.

I meant to check this out but I got my invite (I've never given them money - just signed up in their forums years ago) at the same time the New World preview thing was happening and chose to check out NW instead.

I'm sure there's plenty of time to check it out later at some point,

YashaX

Iselin said:

It is weird having beta and betaest servers.

I meant to check this out but I got my invite (I've never given them money - just signed up in their forums years ago) at the same time the New World preview thing was happening and chose to check out NW instead.

I'm sure there's plenty of time to check it out later at some point,

It would be interesting to hear your take on the comparison between the two games (CF and NW) once you get around to playing CF, because they have quite a bit of cross over despite looking very different.

Amathe

Oops, nm

madazz

How can you revive something that hasn't even lived yet? 

I have been calling out this company for years. The shitty devs, the shitty ways they spent backer money (fucking videographers? seriously?), and the shit they were selling (some items were thousands of dollars!). 

Want a game that was brought to you buy the people involved with killing UO AND SWG?! Crowfail is it. 

Ungood

madazz said:

How can you revive something that hasn't even lived yet? 

I have been calling out this company for years. The shitty devs, the shitty ways they spent backer money (fucking videographers? seriously?), and the shit they were selling (some items were thousands of dollars!). 

Want a game that was brought to you buy the people involved with killing UO AND SWG?! Crowfail is it. 

Wrong game, CU is over there.

madazz

Ungood said:

madazz said:

How can you revive something that hasn't even lived yet? 

I have been calling out this company for years. The shitty devs, the shitty ways they spent backer money (fucking videographers? seriously?), and the shit they were selling (some items were thousands of dollars!). 

Want a game that was brought to you buy the people involved with killing UO AND SWG?! Crowfail is it. 

Wrong game, CU is over there.

Why lie? There is proof of everything I have stated, but your statement is just straight up BS. Do you even know the games we are discussing here? You seem very lost and confused.

Scot

It is not even out yet, this sounds like it will be the name of the relaunch after the first failure..."Crowfall The Revival".

Lets wait and see, we need a MMO CF success so I have my fingers crossed. 

Rhoklaw

My thoughts on Crowfall is that it's not a bad game design, but the execution just seems to be lackadaisical. I just don't see the passion that I'd expect from "indie developers" making a game they want to make.

To be honest, I'm not seeing much enthusiasm from any of the crowdfunded MMOs except for maybe Ashes of Creation. It's almost as if the developers of these indie MMOs realized that their games may not be as popular as they had wished for and simply entered a, zero f*cks given mode, in development.

Ungood

madazz said:

Ungood said:

madazz said:

How can you revive something that hasn't even lived yet? 

I have been calling out this company for years. The shitty devs, the shitty ways they spent backer money (fucking videographers? seriously?), and the shit they were selling (some items were thousands of dollars!). 

Want a game that was brought to you buy the people involved with killing UO AND SWG?! Crowfail is it. 

Wrong game, CU is over there.

Why lie? There is proof of everything I have stated, but your statement is just straight up BS. Do you even know the games we are discussing here? You seem very lost and confused.

Ok... what have they sold that is thousands of dollars.

LackingMMO

Ungood said:

madazz said:

Ungood said:

madazz said:

How can you revive something that hasn't even lived yet? 

I have been calling out this company for years. The shitty devs, the shitty ways they spent backer money (fucking videographers? seriously?), and the shit they were selling (some items were thousands of dollars!). 

Want a game that was brought to you buy the people involved with killing UO AND SWG?! Crowfail is it. 

Wrong game, CU is over there.

Why lie? There is proof of everything I have stated, but your statement is just straight up BS. Do you even know the games we are discussing here? You seem very lost and confused.

Ok... what have they sold that is thousands of dollars.

I like crowfalls idea but i do remember when they had the shop on their site, it had castles you could by for something outrageous. I remember it being like 12k or something stupid.

Ungood

LackingMMO said:

Ungood said:

madazz said:

Ungood said:

madazz said:

How can you revive something that hasn't even lived yet? 

I have been calling out this company for years. The shitty devs, the shitty ways they spent backer money (fucking videographers? seriously?), and the shit they were selling (some items were thousands of dollars!). 

Want a game that was brought to you buy the people involved with killing UO AND SWG?! Crowfail is it. 

Wrong game, CU is over there.

Why lie? There is proof of everything I have stated, but your statement is just straight up BS. Do you even know the games we are discussing here? You seem very lost and confused.

Ok... what have they sold that is thousands of dollars.

I like crowfalls idea but i do remember when they had the shop on their site, it had castles you could by for something outrageous. I remember it being like 12k or something stupid.

Nope.. not seeing it. Maybe you are confused and have the wrong game, like that other equally confused poster Madazz.

Ridrith

@Ungood

Actually they're not wrong, the store today is very different in comparison to what it was when the game first launched. There were numerous packages that were 1000, 2500, and up to 10,000 dollars.

I should know, I purchased the $1,000 dollar package.

Ungood

Ridrith said:

@Ungood

Actually they're not wrong, the store today is very different in comparison to what it was when the game first launched. There were numerous packages that were 1000, 2500, and up to 10,000 dollars.

I should know, I purchased the $1,000 dollar package.

odd I bought the $80-ish dollar package, and have access to my own EK. Never even saw a package above $200.

You might be confusing dollars with Crowns?

Rhoklaw

Ungood said:

Ridrith said:

@Ungood

Actually they're not wrong, the store today is very different in comparison to what it was when the game first launched. There were numerous packages that were 1000, 2500, and up to 10,000 dollars.

I should know, I purchased the $1,000 dollar package.

odd I bought the $80-ish dollar package, and have access to my own EK. Never even saw a package above $200.

You might be confusing dollars with Crowns?

I also pledged $1000 which wasn't the highest pledge available, but thankfully I requested a refund less than 72 hours later. Still have my personally signed check from Gordon himself.

francis_baud

Rhoklaw said:

My thoughts on Crowfall is that it's not a bad game design, but the execution just seems to be lackadaisical. I just don't see the passion that I'd expect from "indie developers" making a game they want to make.
[...]

I can't tell for the rest of the team, but Gordon, J Todd, Blair, Rhea and Tiggs still seem very passionate about the project. It shows when they do the monthly Q&A, answer customer service, post on the forums, etc.

I think Crowfall is going to follow the path of Warframe, as the devs were saying, starting small with a niche audience and slowly expanding the playerbase. They're constantly improving the game so I'm sure soon it's going to be good enough to attract larger crowds. 

Ridrith

Ungood said:

Ridrith said:

@Ungood

Actually they're not wrong, the store today is very different in comparison to what it was when the game first launched. There were numerous packages that were 1000, 2500, and up to 10,000 dollars.

I should know, I purchased the $1,000 dollar package.

odd I bought the $80-ish dollar package, and have access to my own EK. Never even saw a package above $200.

You might be confusing dollars with Crowns?

It's not crowns, no. Haha believe me my friend, the difference between purchasing 1000 crowns and having 1000 dollars come out of my bank account is readily apparent to me. They had packages going up to the $10,000 mark in the store for nearly a year or two after the Kickstarter.

Ungood

Ridrith said:

Ungood said:

Ridrith said:

@Ungood

Actually they're not wrong, the store today is very different in comparison to what it was when the game first launched. There were numerous packages that were 1000, 2500, and up to 10,000 dollars.

I should know, I purchased the $1,000 dollar package.

odd I bought the $80-ish dollar package, and have access to my own EK. Never even saw a package above $200.

You might be confusing dollars with Crowns?

It's not crowns, no. Haha believe me my friend, the difference between purchasing 1000 crowns and having 1000 dollars come out of my bank account is readily apparent to me. They had packages going up to the $10,000 mark in the store for nearly a year or two after the Kickstarter.

Never saw it.. and I have had access to the game before they had graphics for the main hall.

Ridrith

Paid for in full in 2016, 945 dollars. You can see that I originally put it on Layaway, had doubts. The day after I put down 179, I said screw it, put down the 335 so that I'd have 500 going towards it to pay it off in the next few months.  Then I just decided to pay it off that day instead, so I wouldn't have to worry about it or remember to put money on it every month.

@Ungood

Relampago

Why argue.  Go to the kickstarter sit for CF you can see the 10k package.  Having said that I ksed it and can't wait for launch.  It won't be like a modern Shadowbane like I hoped but I will enjoy it.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crowfall/crowfall-throne-war-pc-mmo/rewards

francis_baud

Relampago said:

Why argue.  Go to the kickstarter sit for CF you can see the 10k package.  Having said that I ksed it and can't wait for launch.  It won't be like a modern Shadowbane like I hoped but I will enjoy it.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/crowfall/crowfall-throne-war-pc-mmo/rewards

Pretty much all MMO Kickstarter projects (Shroud of the Avatar, Dual Universe, Pantheon, etc.) had rewards for the $10,000 tier. Not that it excuses anything.

Ungood

Humm.. good to know.

The game is still in a playable state, so if you were a backer like I am, you can get in and play, kill people, die, harvest, build, all that fun stuff.

YashaX

Ridrith said:

Paid for in full in 2016, 945 dollars. You can see that I originally put it on Layaway, had doubts. The day after I put down 179, I said screw it, put down the 335 so that I'd have 500 going towards it to pay it off in the next few months.  Then I just decided to pay it off that day instead, so I wouldn't have to worry about it or remember to put money on it every month.

@Ungood

Why did you pull the trigger on that purchase? I assume you are not just really rich since there would be no need to consider monthly installments if you were farting out greenbacks.

I am not trying to be mean or insulting in any way, I just find it fascinating that regular people are wiling to drop a grand on these kickstarter mmos. Was it the advertising that sucked you in? Talking with your friends/guildies? The game forums? Dev podcasts?

Slapshot1188

YashaX said:

Ridrith said:

Paid for in full in 2016, 945 dollars. You can see that I originally put it on Layaway, had doubts. The day after I put down 179, I said screw it, put down the 335 so that I'd have 500 going towards it to pay it off in the next few months.  Then I just decided to pay it off that day instead, so I wouldn't have to worry about it or remember to put money on it every month.

@Ungood

Why did you pull the trigger on that purchase? I assume you are not just really rich since there would be no need to consider monthly installments if you were farting out greenbacks.

I am not trying to be mean or insulting in any way, I just find it fascinating that regular people are wiling to drop a grand on these kickstarter mmos. Was it the advertising that sucked you in? Talking with your friends/guildies? The game forums? Dev podcasts?

I purchased the Amber Kickstarter for $250.  Normally there is no way I would do that, but I had just sold my Pathfinder Online accounts for over $1k so I kind of looked at it as House Money.   The Amber package was crazy value-wise if you buy into the game actually releasing and being something you want to play.

Highlights included 6 years of VIP Subscription
Another copy of the game via a Crowfall Collector's Edition
Tons of in-game items
Access to Alpha

I figured just 2 copies of the game plus just 6 months sub for each would run around the $250 (depending on monthly sub cost).  To me it was a value proposition where the risk (the game may never come out or be utter shit like Pathfinder) was outweighed by the benefits (6 years sub time, an extra collectors edition, Alpha Access...).

So far I think it's an OK game, with potential, but honestly I can't get my other groupmates to login.  Some are still playing Return to Reckoning and we have also discovered the XBOX Ultimate Gamepass and are making our way though the extensive PC catalogue.

Maybe when it gets to a final stage before the launch wipe...

Kyleran

Ungood said:

Humm.. good to know.

The game is still in a playable state, so if you were a backer like I am, you can get in and play, kill people, die, harvest, build, all that fun stuff.

But you still don't retain any of your progress, so basically it's all rather pointless for now.

Kyleran

Slapshot1188 said:

YashaX said:

Ridrith said:

Paid for in full in 2016, 945 dollars. You can see that I originally put it on Layaway, had doubts. The day after I put down 179, I said screw it, put down the 335 so that I'd have 500 going towards it to pay it off in the next few months.  Then I just decided to pay it off that day instead, so I wouldn't have to worry about it or remember to put money on it every month.

@Ungood

Why did you pull the trigger on that purchase? I assume you are not just really rich since there would be no need to consider monthly installments if you were farting out greenbacks.

I am not trying to be mean or insulting in any way, I just find it fascinating that regular people are wiling to drop a grand on these kickstarter mmos. Was it the advertising that sucked you in? Talking with your friends/guildies? The game forums? Dev podcasts?

I purchased the Amber Kickstarter for $250.  Normally there is no way I would do that, but I had just sold my Pathfinder Online accounts for over $1k so I kind of looked at it as House Money.   The Amber package was crazy value-wise if you buy into the game actually releasing and being something you want to play.

Highlights included 6 years of VIP Subscription
Another copy of the game via a Crowfall Collector's Edition
Tons of in-game items
Access to Alpha

I figured just 2 copies of the game plus just 6 months sub for each would run around the $250 (depending on monthly sub cost).  To me it was a value proposition where the risk (the game may never come out or be utter shit like Pathfinder) was outweighed by the benefits (6 years sub time, an extra collectors edition, Alpha Access...).

So far I think it's an OK game, with potential, but honestly I can't get my other groupmates to login.  Some are still playing Return to Reckoning and we have also discovered the XBOX Ultimate Gamepass and are making our way though the extensive PC catalogue.

Maybe when it gets to a final stage before the launch wipe...

Most gamers require something to be on the line and be able to retain what they've achieved, so not surprised your mates aren't very interested in playing atm.