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  • iixviiiixiixviiiix Member RarePosts: 2,256
    Am blue
    here's the story
    About a little guy that lives in a blue world
    all day and all night
    everything he sees is just blue

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited October 2020
    People move towards trends,it is like they just copy cat the rest of society instead of thinking for themselves.

    So right now people hang out on twitter and follow around streamers.Websites are like a think of the past,Wiki became more popular for information on games as is websites are mostly just pandering towards advertising partners.

    I am not a mind reader but I assume they feel a part of something in a streamers room where as a website is somewhere you go to get information and if that website is not doing much for information they won't care to go there.

    You Tubers are another popular source and in reality that is everything today,all about making a buck.Twitter is more about a place to trash talk each other or another venue to show off selfies.
    Then there is the huge population shift towards the Tic Toc type of sites,Omegle and there is some new one I forget the name of it,Fiver is another one, I think that is about artists/musicians.

    long winded point is that websites are not the in thing anymore.Geesh at one time I could count all the websites on my fingers that  had any worth to hangout.I think it all sort of began on IRC then moved to a couple gaming hangouts like Gamespy,Heat.Net,Justin.tv and then website forums began to be a thing.Now there are a thousand of these money making ventures so the pie has to be split up among thousands...millions instead of 10-12 like it was in the days of Aol and Allakahzam,Fileplanet,Gamepsy and the PLANET websites like planet Quake Planet Unreal etc etc.
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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    Not the colors that make me not want to read these forums.  It's the fact that everyone here is a contrarian asshole looking to score imaginary points on each other.  Its really douche chill evoking...
    I disagree.

    +1
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  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    New users don't know what the colors or titles mean so the chance of them having an effect on someone would probably be trivial at best. 

    I revisit several forums every now and then, and the MMORPG.com forums are like watching "The Young and the Restless".

    Leave, come back a year later, and it's the same cast of characters discussing the same things they were talking about a year ago. 

    Almost every 'recent discussion' is an auto-generated System post, which some see as a red flag, even though many of those topics are active. 

    It's also possible that new users are simply reading and not registering as you only need to register to post (or has that changed?).  For a lot of people, if they have to form an original thought (thereby having to own the contention being presented) and can't speak in the form of a 'meme' they copy and pasted from somewhere else, they're not going to engage. 

    There are many reasons you are not seeing new blood, the least of which is probably Post Count Envy. 
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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 7,432
    remsleep said:
    Scot said:

     I am starting to wonder, could this be putting of new posters joining or staying?




    Nope - has nothing to do with colors, has a lot to do with the site itself.

    The forums here have next to zero new people joining its the same old small group of posters over the years.

    The only time this site has an influx of new users is when there is a key giveaway - accounts are created to get free keys and that's it.

    Why would anyone come and stay here? What exclusive content is there for those who stay? 

    What is the pull? Yeah... there isn't any.

    So the forums are stale and stagnant very much like the state of mmorpgs.

    The ads on the site have gotten obnoxious over the years and that sure doesn't help. Without ad blocker this site is ad-cancer.

    So the state of next to zero new accounts staying here is of no surprise, this site is a relic of the past, slowly dying into obscurity 
    You just described me to a tee! Old relic waiting to die :)

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
    - FARGIN_WAR


  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 7,432
    "Insightful" is the best "emoji(?)." I'm almost as bad as GD and their incessant LOLing.

    But I learn so much here. So many different ways of looking at things! So many people looking at things from so many differing perspectives :)

    Like others, I've been here a long time (2005). I still come here for the community, but a bit of it is habit :)

    New posters are rare, aside from the traffic pushing ad-bots. I really don't  think they stay or leave based on titles and colors. I could be wrong. Aren't these just echoing "achievements" found in nearly every video game these days?

    Personally, I felt good when I got Purple. Not many people agree with me here, so I thought that that would never happen. It kind of reminds me of joining a new (for me) MMORPG and seeing players of all levels and classes and wondering if I'd ever get where they are. It wasn't a negative in any way for me. Hopefully new posters would see this similarly :)
    ScotUngoodCryomatrixAmathe

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
    - FARGIN_WAR


  • AdamantineAdamantine Member RarePosts: 5,095
    edited October 2020
    Hu.

    I honestly dont give a frak about the user name colors... ?

    Not sure why I'm supposed to care.
  • AdamantineAdamantine Member RarePosts: 5,095
    AlBQuirky said:

    Personally, I felt good when I got Purple. Not many people agree with me here, so I thought that that would never happen.
    I thought the colors relate to how often you have posted recently.

  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 7,432
    remsleep said:
    Nobody should pay any attention to this, if anyone actually puts any significance on the color and title - shame on them 

    The message and content of the post is all that matters 
    I wish this attitude was more prevalent in society today...
    rojoArcueid

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
    - FARGIN_WAR


  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 7,432
    AlBQuirky said:

    Personally, I felt good when I got Purple. Not many people agree with me here, so I thought that that would never happen.
    I thought the colors relate to how often you have posted recently.

    Colors are actually acquired by emojis. You get a number of points based on the emoji: agree; awesome; insightful; lol; wtf (I think). There is an element of sheer numbers, but a poster that got "awesome" from many others from a few posts would make "Legendary" quite fast :)
    YashaX

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
    - FARGIN_WAR


  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 11,013
    I liked the old system that just showed forum activity but I dont care how they do it to be honest. I post because I like to talk about games.  
    AlBQuirkyUngoodSovrathMendel
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 25,105
    Rhoklaw said:
    Oh no, it's the scary bad colors and titles! Please. If you honestly think changing or removing any of that is going to help in any way, you're sorely mistaken. Try telling an MMO developer to remove levels and achievements from their game, see if that brings in new players, lol.
    There is a levelling element to the titles which I know some posters like. But I don't think losing that would mean we would lose posters.
    MendelAlBQuirky
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 33,445
    Scot said:
    Rhoklaw said:
    Oh no, it's the scary bad colors and titles! Please. If you honestly think changing or removing any of that is going to help in any way, you're sorely mistaken. Try telling an MMO developer to remove levels and achievements from their game, see if that brings in new players, lol.
    There is a levelling element to the titles which I know some posters like. But I don't think losing that would mean we would lose posters.
    I'm fine with making me permanently "noob."
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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    I think we should do away with rank and color all together

    Did you know that you don’t even see rank or color on Mobil?
    UngoodAlBQuirky
  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 3,223
    Honestly,

    I was happy to go from green to blue to purple. 

    I tend to think agree-to-wtf ratio is a decent barometer of the quality of a people that post quite often. It gives a subjective quality to people.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 25,105
    Torval said:
    Ungood said:
    To be honest, I wish we could do more with our avatars.

    I was on another forum, where you could flag your play style, preferred setting (fantasy/sci-fi/etc), Genre (MMO/FPS/MOBA/etc), so that you could make a proper presentation of yourself, right from the Avatar bar.

    I almost kind wish we could link our steam accounts to our forum accounts, so we could show what games we have played, how well we have done, etc, etc.. that way, if someone says "Oh yah, XYZ game sucks" and you see don't even have that game listed as one of their games they have played, you can dismiss them fully as speaking out their ass.

    It would be kinda cool, to know more about the poster as a player, even if I don't need to know anything about the person themselves. 

    I like the idea of adding interest tags.

    Get rid of the colors and rankings, all of it. It was an interesting experiment, but I'd rather not have it. Other forums I visit don't have them and I like it a lot more.

    New posters can be limited in making new threads to prevent spam without labeling them as newbies. What does it even matter if they're new or rarely post? What matters is the content of their contribution.
    I am wondering what gaming forums if any have our colours, titles, Agree etc system at all?
    AlBQuirky[Deleted User]
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Scot said:
    Torval said:
    Ungood said:
    To be honest, I wish we could do more with our avatars.

    I was on another forum, where you could flag your play style, preferred setting (fantasy/sci-fi/etc), Genre (MMO/FPS/MOBA/etc), so that you could make a proper presentation of yourself, right from the Avatar bar.

    I almost kind wish we could link our steam accounts to our forum accounts, so we could show what games we have played, how well we have done, etc, etc.. that way, if someone says "Oh yah, XYZ game sucks" and you see don't even have that game listed as one of their games they have played, you can dismiss them fully as speaking out their ass.

    It would be kinda cool, to know more about the poster as a player, even if I don't need to know anything about the person themselves. 

    I like the idea of adding interest tags.

    Get rid of the colors and rankings, all of it. It was an interesting experiment, but I'd rather not have it. Other forums I visit don't have them and I like it a lot more.

    New posters can be limited in making new threads to prevent spam without labeling them as newbies. What does it even matter if they're new or rarely post? What matters is the content of their contribution.
    I am wondering what gaming forums if any have our colours, titles, Agree etc system at all?
    The reactions are a basic part of the Vanilla forum software. The ESO forums have always used it but they only use the 3 positive reactions (agree, insightful and awesome.) They did have LOL as one of the reactions early on but removed it due to the LOL trolling.

    Titles, ranks, colors, special permissions per rank or even per user are also part of the basic package.

    This site used the licensed $ version for a while but settled on the free. open source version. That's what it uses now.
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,569
    I sincerely do not think anyone comes to this forum and says "Oh gosh, some of the people here have orange names and have been around for a while, I should not be here" and leaves intimidated with their tail between their legs because the posters here have titles and colors around their names.

    In fact, I don't think games in general have that kind of mindset.

    I believe gamers have two mindsets.

    1) The Hard Core: I don't care if these hosers have been here since the garden of eden, I'm gonna show them how it's done.

    2) The Social Casual: I'm gonna get an Orange name myself eventually.

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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,123
    Forums in general are dying as are MMOs.  Add in the clique nature of such a small forum and the fact that there aren't enough people that enjoy and want to talk about specific MMOs and there you are.

    You can try to make things more appealing to new posters but I think it's a lost cause.  I just think there are fewer people that love MMOs in general, rather than love the one they play.

    But the best way to find out would maybe be to send emails to people that joined and posted a little bit and then vanished.  But you'd have to filter out the advertisers and spammers of course.
    AlBQuirkyUngood
  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    bcbully said:
    I think we should do away with rank and color all together

    Did you know that you don’t even see rank or color on Mobil?
    But do you see them on Exxon?
    AlBQuirkyCryomatrix
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  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    Scot said:
    I am wondering what gaming forums if any have our colours, titles, Agree etc system at all?
    While not exactly like the system here, vBulletin, phpBB, WP, and all major forums offer some form of achievement/recognition system as well as features for posters to rank, reward, 'like', or otherwise acknowledge individual posts. 
    UngoodAlBQuirky
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  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,720
    People that are so sensitive that the title and colour thereof of other posters can put them off of posting have personal issues no change in presentation of such can resolve. It would just as likely shift the focus of their concern to some other factor rather than resolve it, such as feeling they couldn't get as many likes as long-term members, or whatever.

    However, if people genuinely feel it would such would enhance the site in some way then it's worth a shot I suppose.
    AlBQuirky
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 25,105
    I think over all posters including those newer to the site lean to this not being an issue, so that puts my mind at rest.
    AlBQuirky
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