I'n not banging on how other people spend their money. That is 100% their decision.
And if someone wants to finance and build a game by crowd funding, so long as they are acting in good faith, that's fine too.
Just speaking for myself, I will wait for release before I spend.
Normally, I agree wholeheartedly. But how these gamers are spending their money is now affecting me and my enjoyment of games. Businesses will keep up shoddy practices and products as long as they make money.
Right now, there is zero incentive for them to make good, quality games
Have you tried voting with your wallet to give them an incentive to make a good quality game?
Like for example.
I looked at Crowfall and said "This looks like a great Realms vs Realms game" and since I enjoy that kind of play, I bought one of their larger packs, not sure, maybe the $100 one, and have played since pre-alpha.
While, going to be honest, it is not shaping to up to be the kind of game I will be playing, I still put my dollars down into something I thought would be what I was looking for.
Now this is not meant as a dis, but when you ask where their incentive is, have you made an effort to give them one?
I am playing DDO right now, and when they put out their expansion, I will buy it, because I feel that selling content is the best way to build a F2P game, so I buy their content, ALL of it, to support that venture.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
I have pre-ordered games for as long back as I can recall. The first one I know about was Wing Commander and I remember it because it came with a Wing Commander Hat, a signed box and a free "Secret MIssions" Disc. May have been more before that but WC stands out to me.
As I now have far more free cash to play with than I ever did... I spend far more. I still pre-order, I crowdfund, I buy DLC... expansions.
I have zero problem paying a sub or a box fee for a game.
Where I draw the line are "free" games. It's a mental hurdle for me. If you say it's free then I'm not spending money in it. I think in all this time the only cash shop stuff I have bought is some bank space in POE because... that game was really fun and was playing with my friends.
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Outside of indie what companies truly need this upfront money? Gaming companies never needed this money before and now we have AAA releases like Destiny and MA expecting you to fund them before there is enough content in the game.
....oh dear.
You need far less money than you are making but you want to make more, don't you? Same goes for companies.
If the world operated on "need" base, we would be still living on trees.
It is the "want" that is driving mankind forward, the surplus or like some less bright fellows like to call it - the greed.
Outside of indie what companies truly need this upfront money? Gaming companies never needed this money before and now we have AAA releases like Destiny and MA expecting you to fund them before there is enough content in the game.
....oh dear.
You need far less money than you are making but you want to make more, don't you? Same goes for companies.
If the world operated on "need" base, we would be still living on trees.
It is the "want" that is driving mankind forward, the surplus or like some less bright fellows like to call it - the greed.
Though largely true, it is not entirely so. We are also driven to transcend in every conceivable aspect simply for the sake of transcendence. Of all living beings we are the only one perpetually dissatisfied with our status quo. That pursuit has been historically relentless with little regard for the consequence. It is aptly described as a need.
Outside of indie what companies truly need this upfront money? Gaming companies never needed this money before and now we have AAA releases like Destiny and MA expecting you to fund them before there is enough content in the game.
....oh dear.
You need far less money than you are making but you want to make more, don't you? Same goes for companies.
If the world operated on "need" base, we would be still living on trees.
It is the "want" that is driving mankind forward, the surplus or like some less bright fellows like to call it - the greed.
Rather depends where the need or greed gets its money from. You could seek additional early funding from those who are not your customers like investors. But the customer is seen as the soft touch and that's why we have seen everything from pre-order to loot boxes.
I am not against gaming companies making big profits, I am not sure how my posts may have given that impression. It is the way those profits are made that causes concern, from expecting players to cough up before they even have a game to introducing casino gameplay elements. Produce a good product and produce good dlc's and you can over charge as far as I am concerned. I have never advocated gaming for free.
I will use a game that sort of miffed me right from day 1....Wizard 101. A game that caters to kids but of course KI cannot say that ever because of it's monetization and you cannot TARGET underage kids,it is illegal.
They "Kings Isle" claim their game is FREE to play,you can't see even 2% of the game for free,so how free is that?To me it is a BLATANT LIE,fraud. Do I EXPECT free gaming ,of course not but I also do EXPECT honesty and even the cash shop idea is a dishonest form of monetization with no cap on spending. Some games do have a cap because really a cash shop could exploit an addicted gamer and we HAVE for fact seen a few lawsuits going after addictive measures designed by developers. So happens right now a Montreal law firm is suing Epic games over creating addictions to underage kids.Well of course you always have to utilize/exploit the CHILD for your law suit,it just carries more weight that way.
The gaming market became TOO BIG,too much competition,too much risk,too much to lose,that is why we have witnessed such drastic changes on how gaming operates.So i see the real picture and it is never going to return to a more fair state unless we hit a massive recession that kills off 95+% of the studios.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
This was something that was very hard for me to do. I can't stand current Activision Blizzard but I love WoW Classic. I subbed for six months then had to cancel.
After Free Hong Kong, don't you have phones, firing 800 people in a record revenue year, you think you do but you don't, Warcraft 3: Refunded, 40 million bonus for Bobby, the pathetic wages where employees can't even afford to eat at the company cafeteria, etc etc etc
This isn't the Blizzard that made World of Warcraft and I can't support them anymore. It was really hard because WoW Classic is top 3 MMORPGs for me of all time. I love the game. I got 2 level 60s in the time I played and vastly enjoyed the game and wanted to keep playing. It wasn't nostalgia. I love WoW Classic. I just can't feel good about giving this company my money. I had to stop.
Now Activision Blizzard is dead to me.
It truly saddens me what this company has become. One of my most loved gaming companies for most of my life pretty much all must buy games and now I won't even look at them without disgust and disdain.
"You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Not sure you have the right thread Nilden, but hey do we care?
It wasn't exactly about the points in your OP but it was totally about putting my money where my mouth is and I can't support Activision Blizzard paying for WoW Classic when I disagree with what the company is doing at a fundamental level.
So it's a boycott which pertains to the topic.
"You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
To go even further, you elude to it but don't actually mention it, the boycotting of companies that is.
I think that will be a huge factor in the money for these companies going forward. Actions have consequences and more and more people are abandoning companies like EA and Activision that continue to be horrible to customers.
"You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
To go even further, you elude to it but don't actually mention it, the boycotting of companies that is.
I think that will be a huge factor in the money for these companies going forward. Actions have consequences and more and more people are abandoning companies like EA and Activision that continue to be horrible to customers.
Err, where exactly did you get your information from?
I see no evidence any significant amount of customers are walking away from either EA or AB.
Electronic Arts reported financial results today that beat Wall Street’s expectations with revenue growing 21% to $1.46 billion for the first fiscal quarter ended June 30.
Fact is, you "socially conscious" folks are just a rounding error to these big game devs, they know most lack any real courage of their convictions and many will eventually come slinking back in one day.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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To go even further, you elude to it but don't actually mention it, the boycotting of companies that is.
I think that will be a huge factor in the money for these companies going forward. Actions have consequences and more and more people are abandoning companies like EA and Activision that continue to be horrible to customers.
Do you really think that gamers can maintain a united front large and long enough to generate the impact needed to coerce any level of change in companies of that sort.
It will never happen. The strength of will needed wouldn't last beyond the glow of the next shiny that catches the eye of the vast majority of participants.
To go even further, you elude to it but don't actually mention it, the boycotting of companies that is.
I think that will be a huge factor in the money for these companies going forward. Actions have consequences and more and more people are abandoning companies like EA and Activision that continue to be horrible to customers.
Do you really think that gamers can maintain a united front large and long enough to generate the impact needed to coerce any level of change in companies of that sort.
It will never happen. The strength of will needed wouldn't last beyond the glow of the next shiny that catches the eye of the vast majority of participants.
We pushed back on loot boxes, that could happen again; I do think more players are wising up about this but I cannot say if there will ever be enough to make any truly significant changes.
To go even further, you elude to it but don't actually mention it, the boycotting of companies that is.
I think that will be a huge factor in the money for these companies going forward. Actions have consequences and more and more people are abandoning companies like EA and Activision that continue to be horrible to customers.
Err, where exactly did you get your information from?
I see no evidence any significant amount of customers are walking away from either EA or AB.
Electronic Arts reported financial results today that beat Wall Street’s expectations with revenue growing 21% to $1.46 billion for the first fiscal quarter ended June 30.
Fact is, you "socially conscious" folks are just a rounding error to these big game devs, they know most lack any real courage of their convictions and many will eventually come slinking back in one day.
Meanwhile...
"You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
To go even further, you elude to it but don't actually mention it, the boycotting of companies that is.
I think that will be a huge factor in the money for these companies going forward. Actions have consequences and more and more people are abandoning companies like EA and Activision that continue to be horrible to customers.
Err, where exactly did you get your information from?
I see no evidence any significant amount of customers are walking away from either EA or AB.
Electronic Arts reported financial results today that beat Wall Street’s expectations with revenue growing 21% to $1.46 billion for the first fiscal quarter ended June 30.
Fact is, you "socially conscious" folks are just a rounding error to these big game devs, they know most lack any real courage of their convictions and many will eventually come slinking back in one day.
Meanwhile...
Personally I would trust the money figures more than someone Tweeting about a protest or complaint
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To go even further, you elude to it but don't actually mention it, the boycotting of companies that is.
I think that will be a huge factor in the money for these companies going forward. Actions have consequences and more and more people are abandoning companies like EA and Activision that continue to be horrible to customers.
Do you really think that gamers can maintain a united front large and long enough to generate the impact needed to coerce any level of change in companies of that sort.
It will never happen. The strength of will needed wouldn't last beyond the glow of the next shiny that catches the eye of the vast majority of participants.
Whilst I don't believe gamers can unite in this way by ourselves, there is one clear method to achieve a similar result: embarassment through comparison.
By this, I mean that EA, AB and the other big publishers can get away with what they're doing only because they are all doing it at the same time. If one of them stops, or someone new comes along and does it better, it will make the others look terrible by comparison.
[this is based on the caveat that whoever runs the better company with better monetisation, from a gamers point of view, can still produce games of a similar or better quality to EA.]
The biggest hurdle will be getting past the stranglehold big publishers have on IPs. Whilst EA continues to have exclusive rights to various sports franchises, not to mention Star Wars, they will be guaranteed a decent audience.
To go even further, you elude to it but don't actually mention it, the boycotting of companies that is.
I think that will be a huge factor in the money for these companies going forward. Actions have consequences and more and more people are abandoning companies like EA and Activision that continue to be horrible to customers.
Err, where exactly did you get your information from?
I see no evidence any significant amount of customers are walking away from either EA or AB.
Electronic Arts reported financial results today that beat Wall Street’s expectations with revenue growing 21% to $1.46 billion for the first fiscal quarter ended June 30.
Fact is, you "socially conscious" folks are just a rounding error to these big game devs, they know most lack any real courage of their convictions and many will eventually come slinking back in one day.
Meanwhile...
While that looks nice and all, is EA or Activision/Blizzard actually hurting? Are they "changing their ways", so to speak?
I don't see it, myself...
Remember, gamers have been "threatening" boycotts for decades. Not much changes in the grand scheme of things.
PS: Remember, once a player buys any game, the suits don't care. They got their sale and money.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
Companies are making it harder to "vote with our wallets" these days. With the push for lump subscriptions (Gamepass, EA Access, Play Station Now, Staadia...), the individual game is now buried.
We have F2P MMOs where votes are silenced because players will play anything for free, even utter crap.
Face it, we gamers as a group have zero power.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
Companies are making it harder to "vote with our wallets" these days. With the push for lump subscriptions (Gamepass, EA Access, Play Station Now, Staadia...), the individual game is now buried.
We have F2P MMOs where votes are silenced because players will play anything for free, even utter crap.
Face it, we gamers as a group have zero power.
I also firmly believe that 90% of all gamers are perfectly content with the status quo. This idea that gamers are this mistreated, conned, miserable bunch is based on a vocal minority. The growth of the industry, sales, money spent etc. prove this.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
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Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
To go even further, you elude to it but don't actually mention it, the boycotting of companies that is.
I think that will be a huge factor in the money for these companies going forward. Actions have consequences and more and more people are abandoning companies like EA and Activision that continue to be horrible to customers.
Err, where exactly did you get your information from?
I see no evidence any significant amount of customers are walking away from either EA or AB.
Electronic Arts reported financial results today that beat Wall Street’s expectations with revenue growing 21% to $1.46 billion for the first fiscal quarter ended June 30.
Fact is, you "socially conscious" folks are just a rounding error to these big game devs, they know most lack any real courage of their convictions and many will eventually come slinking back in one day.
Meanwhile...
While that looks nice and all, is EA or Activision/Blizzard actually hurting? Are they "changing their ways", so to speak?
I don't see it, myself...
Remember, gamers have been "threatening" boycotts for decades. Not much changes in the grand scheme of things.
PS: Remember, once a player buys any game, the suits don't care. They got their sale and money.
The answer is clear, neither of those companies are hurting financially, in fact it looks like they've set record levels of revenue and profits.
Who gives a care what a bunch of whiners post on the internet, especially when almost all of them lack the courage of their convictions.
It's extremely hypocritical to type the words "Free Hong Kong" on a cell phone or computer which has "Made in China" on the back of them.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Companies are making it harder to "vote with our wallets" these days. With the push for lump subscriptions (Gamepass, EA Access, Play Station Now, Staadia...), the individual game is now buried.
We have F2P MMOs where votes are silenced because players will play anything for free, even utter crap.
Face it, we gamers as a group have zero power.
I also firmly believe that 90% of all gamers are perfectly content with the status quo. This idea that gamers are this mistreated, conned, miserable bunch is based on a vocal minority. The growth of the industry, sales, money spent etc. prove this.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
From what I've seen, I agree.
I think "a great percentage of gamers" are quite happy with the state of the industry. This includes Facebook gamers, mobile "candy Crush" gamers, and gamers who gobble up every title released.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
I'n not banging on how other people spend their money. That is 100% their decision.
And if someone wants to finance and build a game by crowd funding, so long as they are acting in good faith, that's fine too.
Just speaking for myself, I will wait for release before I spend.
Normally, I agree wholeheartedly. But how these gamers are spending their money is now affecting me and my enjoyment of games. Businesses will keep up shoddy practices and products as long as they make money.
Right now, there is zero incentive for them to make good, quality games
You can say the same thing about the music and movie industries also..>They just regurgitate the same garbage over and over and people buy it.
This says a lot about the sorry state of gaming though when these companies can treat their workers and customers like crap and deliver subpar junk while milking people for every dollar and make bank.
I for one will not support them and I know I'm not alone.
"You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
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Like for example.
I looked at Crowfall and said "This looks like a great Realms vs Realms game" and since I enjoy that kind of play, I bought one of their larger packs, not sure, maybe the $100 one, and have played since pre-alpha.
While, going to be honest, it is not shaping to up to be the kind of game I will be playing, I still put my dollars down into something I thought would be what I was looking for.
Now this is not meant as a dis, but when you ask where their incentive is, have you made an effort to give them one?
I am playing DDO right now, and when they put out their expansion, I will buy it, because I feel that selling content is the best way to build a F2P game, so I buy their content, ALL of it, to support that venture.
As I now have far more free cash to play with than I ever did... I spend far more. I still pre-order, I crowdfund, I buy DLC... expansions.
I have zero problem paying a sub or a box fee for a game.
Where I draw the line are "free" games. It's a mental hurdle for me. If you say it's free then I'm not spending money in it. I think in all this time the only cash shop stuff I have bought is some bank space in POE because... that game was really fun and was playing with my friends.
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Though largely true, it is not entirely so. We are also driven to transcend in every conceivable aspect simply for the sake of transcendence. Of all living beings we are the only one perpetually dissatisfied with our status quo. That pursuit has been historically relentless with little regard for the consequence. It is aptly described as a need.
I am not against gaming companies making big profits, I am not sure how my posts may have given that impression. It is the way those profits are made that causes concern, from expecting players to cough up before they even have a game to introducing casino gameplay elements. Produce a good product and produce good dlc's and you can over charge as far as I am concerned. I have never advocated gaming for free.
A game that caters to kids but of course KI cannot say that ever because of it's monetization and you cannot TARGET underage kids,it is illegal.
They "Kings Isle" claim their game is FREE to play,you can't see even 2% of the game for free,so how free is that?To me it is a BLATANT LIE,fraud.
Do I EXPECT free gaming ,of course not but I also do EXPECT honesty and even the cash shop idea is a dishonest form of monetization with no cap on spending.
Some games do have a cap because really a cash shop could exploit an addicted gamer and we HAVE for fact seen a few lawsuits going after addictive measures designed by developers.
So happens right now a Montreal law firm is suing Epic games over creating addictions to underage kids.Well of course you always have to utilize/exploit the CHILD for your law suit,it just carries more weight that way.
The gaming market became TOO BIG,too much competition,too much risk,too much to lose,that is why we have witnessed such drastic changes on how gaming operates.So i see the real picture and it is never going to return to a more fair state unless we hit a massive recession that kills off 95+% of the studios.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
After Free Hong Kong, don't you have phones, firing 800 people in a record revenue year, you think you do but you don't, Warcraft 3: Refunded, 40 million bonus for Bobby, the pathetic wages where employees can't even afford to eat at the company cafeteria, etc etc etc
This isn't the Blizzard that made World of Warcraft and I can't support them anymore. It was really hard because WoW Classic is top 3 MMORPGs for me of all time. I love the game. I got 2 level 60s in the time I played and vastly enjoyed the game and wanted to keep playing. It wasn't nostalgia. I love WoW Classic. I just can't feel good about giving this company my money. I had to stop.
Now Activision Blizzard is dead to me.
It truly saddens me what this company has become. One of my most loved gaming companies for most of my life pretty much all must buy games and now I won't even look at them without disgust and disdain.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/So it's a boycott which pertains to the topic.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/I think that will be a huge factor in the money for these companies going forward. Actions have consequences and more and more people are abandoning companies like EA and Activision that continue to be horrible to customers.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/I see no evidence any significant amount of customers are walking away from either EA or AB.
https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/activision-blizzard-announces-record-second-quarter-2020
From EAs 2nd Qtr results
Electronic Arts reported financial results today that beat Wall Street’s expectations with revenue growing 21% to $1.46 billion for the first fiscal quarter ended June 30.
Check these fun facts:
EA released Season 5 of its battle royale Apex Legends, with engagement levels reaching the highest since Season 1. And during the quarter, player acquisition for FIFA Soccer was up more than 100% from a year ago, and Madden NFL was up 140%. EA also said that The Sims 4 has more than 30 million players across all platforms, releasing on Steam as part of the publisher’s push on Valve’s PC game service.
Fact is, you "socially conscious" folks are just a rounding error to these big game devs, they know most lack any real courage of their convictions and many will eventually come slinking back in one day.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Do you really think that gamers can maintain a united front large and long enough to generate the impact needed to coerce any level of change in companies of that sort.
It will never happen. The strength of will needed wouldn't last beyond the glow of the next shiny that catches the eye of the vast majority of participants.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Who gives a care what a bunch of whiners post on the internet, especially when almost all of them lack the courage of their convictions.
It's extremely hypocritical to type the words "Free Hong Kong" on a cell phone or computer which has "Made in China" on the back of them.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/gaming-companies-reportedly-next-targets-210459666.html
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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You can say the same thing about the music and movie industries also..>They just regurgitate the same garbage over and over and people buy it.
This says a lot about the sorry state of gaming though when these companies can treat their workers and customers like crap and deliver subpar junk while milking people for every dollar and make bank.
I for one will not support them and I know I'm not alone.
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