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Bounty Hunters

jahlonjahlon Member UncommonPosts: 381

A number of people expressed concern over the corruption system for Ashes of Creation.  I've recently gotten some new infromation on the Bounty Hunter System that affects the corruption system. 

So here are the rough details on the new system.

Mechanics

As it is planned right now, Bounty Hunters can activate a pathfinding ability which allows them to track down corrupted players via the map. Once a Bounty Hunter does this, he will be flagged as a legal combatant for Corrupted Players for one hour, which means corrupted can kill bounty hunters without incurring more corruption.  Also, the reduced combat proficiency (combat penalties) a corrupted has vs normal combatants does not apply vs Bounty Hunters.  

Essentially these mechanics turn this into a quasi faction war between those two groups.

NOTE:  It is possible during testing that they are going to change it so that Bounty Hunters are always permanently flagged as combatants vs corrupted players.  Make sure during testing to give meaningful feedback no matter what your position on this situation is.  

While the Bounty Hunter becomes a legal combatant for the Corrupted, they do not get flagged for combat vs anyone else.  This means that normal Combatants are still flagging up to attack the Bounty Hunter.  Unless the BH flags up for normal PvP he will be treated as a non-combatant and the standard corruption rules would apply.  

Becoming a Bounty Hunter

Right now, the quest to become a bounty hunter is tied to military nodes.  So to unlock and/or maintain bounty hunter status, you would need to be a citizen of a military node. 

Recently Steven has talked about expanding this quest so that more people will be able to engage in this.  This may open up the possibility of the Bounty Hunter quest being available to anyone who is allied with a Military Node or who is the citizen of a vassal node under a Military parent node. 

Benefits of Bounty Hunting

You will be able to locate and hunt down Corrupted Players.  

There may be more to this system down the road, (including special augments you get only by being a Bounty Hunter) but this is what we are aware of at this time.


If you want the video link to this it is here: 


Comments

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,102
    They need to keep it simple.  The more rules and flags they add, the less likely it is to succeed.


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  • WargfootWargfoot Member UncommonPosts: 257
    1: As a corrupted player I allow myself to appear on the map.  As soon as I see a bounty hunter approaching six of my corrupted buddies log on right next to me.

    2: I pose as a high level bounty hunter to get new bounty hunters to follow me into the wilds where we will be overwhelmed by my corrupted friends.

    3: [allow the MMORPG community to insert a dozen other exploits here]

    The assumption that the system means that bounty hunters are the ones who will be doing the hunting is pure comedy gold.

    I'm already lulz.
  • WargfootWargfoot Member UncommonPosts: 257
    After watching the video, some developer nonsense:

    1: First Mistake: Corrupted don't get additional corruption when killing bounty hunters.
    This is the result of complaints from people who want to play corrupted.  The thought was that this would force the corrupted to choose between defending themselves or gaining more corruption - and that was seen as unfair.  That concession coming from developers who have no problem allowing noobs to be slaughtered.  PRO TIP: People playing corrupted don't care about fair.  If they did, they'd just join in faction warfare.  You guys were snowed.  

    2: Second Mistake: Corrupted don't have combat reductions against Bounty Hunters.  Then why play a bounty hunter?  Just so you can find a corrupted?  If you want to find a corrupted just hang out at a local noob zone on a Friday night.

    It amazes me that a developer would obsess over fair - and create such a complex system - to keep things fair for noob killers.  This, after putting so much effort into all kinds of legal and productive forms of PvP.

    Make being corrupted VERY UNFAIR and you'll still have more bandits than you can handle.  Seriously.


    Amathe
  • remsleepremsleep Member RarePosts: 491
    Lol - glaringly flawed system, probably the first thing to get scrapped
  • jahlonjahlon Member UncommonPosts: 381
    All good feedback and points. 

    Will make sure to get it rolled back to Intrepid.  
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,102
    jahlon said:
    All good feedback and points. 

    Will make sure to get it rolled back to Intrepid.  
    Ok. Sure.

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  • kitaradkitarad Member EpicPosts: 5,843
    For the reasons my estimable fellow forum posters have already enumerated I do think the system will be ripe for abuse but if they form a bounty hunter guild of sorts you could counter the problems. However large number of corrupted may descend and kill them and face no consequences. A zerg of corrupted. They should have some protections for the bounty hunters or being corrupted will be far more attractive as it stands.
    Amathe

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