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OPINION: Why The Last of Us Part 2 Collapsed [Spoilers]

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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,041
    edited July 2020
    Aeander said:
    lahnmir said:
    Aeander said:
    Kyleran said:
    The game is shit and I'm pissed I can't get my time or money back.

    But of course game jurnos and Naughty Dogshit thinks its stunning and Brave, with many important messages.

    Fuck this PC SJW society

    [BRAND]
    Realize the fault is no one's but your own. You didn't have to buy this game early, before all the final reviews were in, you chose to do so.

    As I see things, you have little right to complain, just suck it up as a bad purchase and make better choices in the future.


    I mean, its without question a stunning game.  The game is a technical masterpiece.  Best environments a console has ever seen, and brilliantly scored.  Not to mention the expressions of the characters.

    On top of that, the game play is really good.  

    And I can't picture anyone who liked the first game not at least getting some enjoyment out of the first 15 hours.

    But anyone who spouts off nonsense like 'SJW' deserves to be miserable.

    And no one who says TLOU2 is 'shit' has any opinion worth listening to anyway.  Not liking it is one thing, but its clearly far from 'shit'.  Still probably the best game released so far in 2020, at least on console.  Although there hasn't been a whole lot of competition just yet.
    Lol, no. FF7R is the best game of 2020 so far, and it isn't even a contest.
    I am 15 hours in and I like the remake a lot.

    but.

    Although the pacing is excellent there is definitely bloat. Every single question from the original that might be raised does so, every side activity explored to the fullest. The graphics are amazing, except when they are not. Especially some extremely low poly doors (Clouds sleeping room is a hilarious example) and the quality of the character looks makes it immediately recognisable who is important and who isn't. The main cast looks stunning, the side cast looks good and the wandering NPCs etc. look average. The combat is excellent but the camera work is sloppy in small spaces (that is most fights) Barret is even more of a caricature then before and Tifa is so much fan service that she is only inches away of constantly topping over. The music is amazing, the balance between being on rails and open spaces is excellent but on the whole the game feels a bit uneven. 

    In the end I would give the game an 8 for now. I would rate FF13 a 6 and FFXV a 7 so its definitely a step up for me. Do note, out of all FF games I have played (and I have played all numerical ones, all tactics ones, spinoffs etc.) the original FF7 does not make my top 3 and barely reaches my top 5.

    My best game in 2020 would go to Persona 5: Royal.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I mean, Persona 5 Royal is an amazing game, but that's because it is an improved version of one of, if not the, best games of 2017 (2017 being one of the best years for gaming - ever). It's like calling Monster Hunter Iceborn the best game of 2019.
    True, but yours is a remake of game dating all the way back to 1997  :p

    Besides, Iceborne is totally the best game of 2019.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 7,838
    edited July 2020
    lahnmir said:
    Aeander said:
    lahnmir said:
    Aeander said:
    Kyleran said:
    The game is shit and I'm pissed I can't get my time or money back.

    But of course game jurnos and Naughty Dogshit thinks its stunning and Brave, with many important messages.

    Fuck this PC SJW society

    [BRAND]
    Realize the fault is no one's but your own. You didn't have to buy this game early, before all the final reviews were in, you chose to do so.

    As I see things, you have little right to complain, just suck it up as a bad purchase and make better choices in the future.


    I mean, its without question a stunning game.  The game is a technical masterpiece.  Best environments a console has ever seen, and brilliantly scored.  Not to mention the expressions of the characters.

    On top of that, the game play is really good.  

    And I can't picture anyone who liked the first game not at least getting some enjoyment out of the first 15 hours.

    But anyone who spouts off nonsense like 'SJW' deserves to be miserable.

    And no one who says TLOU2 is 'shit' has any opinion worth listening to anyway.  Not liking it is one thing, but its clearly far from 'shit'.  Still probably the best game released so far in 2020, at least on console.  Although there hasn't been a whole lot of competition just yet.
    Lol, no. FF7R is the best game of 2020 so far, and it isn't even a contest.
    I am 15 hours in and I like the remake a lot.

    but.

    Although the pacing is excellent there is definitely bloat. Every single question from the original that might be raised does so, every side activity explored to the fullest. The graphics are amazing, except when they are not. Especially some extremely low poly doors (Clouds sleeping room is a hilarious example) and the quality of the character looks makes it immediately recognisable who is important and who isn't. The main cast looks stunning, the side cast looks good and the wandering NPCs etc. look average. The combat is excellent but the camera work is sloppy in small spaces (that is most fights) Barret is even more of a caricature then before and Tifa is so much fan service that she is only inches away of constantly topping over. The music is amazing, the balance between being on rails and open spaces is excellent but on the whole the game feels a bit uneven. 

    In the end I would give the game an 8 for now. I would rate FF13 a 6 and FFXV a 7 so its definitely a step up for me. Do note, out of all FF games I have played (and I have played all numerical ones, all tactics ones, spinoffs etc.) the original FF7 does not make my top 3 and barely reaches my top 5.

    My best game in 2020 would go to Persona 5: Royal.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I mean, Persona 5 Royal is an amazing game, but that's because it is an improved version of one of, if not the, best games of 2017 (2017 being one of the best years for gaming - ever). It's like calling Monster Hunter Iceborn the best game of 2019.
    True, but yours is a remake of game dating all the way back to 1997  :p

    Besides, Iceborne is totally the best game of 2019.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I mean yes, but ultimately it did need to be rebuilt from the ground up, such that the story is really all that's shared. Whereas P5R really should have been sold as dlc.

    Also, my game of 2019 was Three Houses, full stop.
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,041
    Aeander said:
    lahnmir said:
    Aeander said:
    lahnmir said:
    Aeander said:
    Kyleran said:
    The game is shit and I'm pissed I can't get my time or money back.

    But of course game jurnos and Naughty Dogshit thinks its stunning and Brave, with many important messages.

    Fuck this PC SJW society

    [BRAND]
    Realize the fault is no one's but your own. You didn't have to buy this game early, before all the final reviews were in, you chose to do so.

    As I see things, you have little right to complain, just suck it up as a bad purchase and make better choices in the future.


    I mean, its without question a stunning game.  The game is a technical masterpiece.  Best environments a console has ever seen, and brilliantly scored.  Not to mention the expressions of the characters.

    On top of that, the game play is really good.  

    And I can't picture anyone who liked the first game not at least getting some enjoyment out of the first 15 hours.

    But anyone who spouts off nonsense like 'SJW' deserves to be miserable.

    And no one who says TLOU2 is 'shit' has any opinion worth listening to anyway.  Not liking it is one thing, but its clearly far from 'shit'.  Still probably the best game released so far in 2020, at least on console.  Although there hasn't been a whole lot of competition just yet.
    Lol, no. FF7R is the best game of 2020 so far, and it isn't even a contest.
    I am 15 hours in and I like the remake a lot.

    but.

    Although the pacing is excellent there is definitely bloat. Every single question from the original that might be raised does so, every side activity explored to the fullest. The graphics are amazing, except when they are not. Especially some extremely low poly doors (Clouds sleeping room is a hilarious example) and the quality of the character looks makes it immediately recognisable who is important and who isn't. The main cast looks stunning, the side cast looks good and the wandering NPCs etc. look average. The combat is excellent but the camera work is sloppy in small spaces (that is most fights) Barret is even more of a caricature then before and Tifa is so much fan service that she is only inches away of constantly topping over. The music is amazing, the balance between being on rails and open spaces is excellent but on the whole the game feels a bit uneven. 

    In the end I would give the game an 8 for now. I would rate FF13 a 6 and FFXV a 7 so its definitely a step up for me. Do note, out of all FF games I have played (and I have played all numerical ones, all tactics ones, spinoffs etc.) the original FF7 does not make my top 3 and barely reaches my top 5.

    My best game in 2020 would go to Persona 5: Royal.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I mean, Persona 5 Royal is an amazing game, but that's because it is an improved version of one of, if not the, best games of 2017 (2017 being one of the best years for gaming - ever). It's like calling Monster Hunter Iceborn the best game of 2019.
    True, but yours is a remake of game dating all the way back to 1997  :p

    Besides, Iceborne is totally the best game of 2019.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I mean yes, but ultimately it did need to be rebuilt from the ground up, such that the story is really all that's shared. Whereas P5R really should have been sold as dlc.

    Also, my game of 2019 was Three Houses, full stop.
    I think we should duke it out in the schoolyard. Perhaps we could slap each other with fish, Monty Python style.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Kyleran
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • TeakStrangiatoTeakStrangiato Member UncommonPosts: 34
    Aeander said:
    Kyleran said:
    The game is shit and I'm pissed I can't get my time or money back.

    But of course game jurnos and Naughty Dogshit thinks its stunning and Brave, with many important messages.

    Fuck this PC SJW society

    [BRAND]
    Realize the fault is no one's but your own. You didn't have to buy this game early, before all the final reviews were in, you chose to do so.

    As I see things, you have little right to complain, just suck it up as a bad purchase and make better choices in the future.


    I mean, its without question a stunning game.  The game is a technical masterpiece.  Best environments a console has ever seen, and brilliantly scored.  Not to mention the expressions of the characters.

    On top of that, the game play is really good.  

    And I can't picture anyone who liked the first game not at least getting some enjoyment out of the first 15 hours.

    But anyone who spouts off nonsense like 'SJW' deserves to be miserable.

    And no one who says TLOU2 is 'shit' has any opinion worth listening to anyway.  Not liking it is one thing, but its clearly far from 'shit'.  Still probably the best game released so far in 2020, at least on console.  Although there hasn't been a whole lot of competition just yet.
    Lol, no. FF7R is the best game of 2020 so far, and it isn't even a contest.
    Id take TLOU2 over FFVIIR in a heartbeat, and I liked FFVIIR.  But its a reasonable GOTY pick so far, I wouldn't argue that.

    I agree with Three Houses as game of year last year (although I haven't yet played Disco Elysium) and P5 was my GOTY in 2017, but Divinity: OS 2 was close.  And yes, P5R is better than TLOU2 and will almost certainly be better than anything else that releases this year.  
  • GrimulaGrimula Member UncommonPosts: 644
    edited July 2020
    How the hell could this get a 10/10 on Most media sites Hahahah

    Especially in this day and age

    One of the worst stories in a long time , they totally ruined what was Amazing in the first game

    Sure the graphics are amazing and the Combat is pretty cool , but the Story is horrible Compaired to the first game Killing dogs Over and over and over , Random sex scene doggy style for NO REASON , its pretty disgusting game really hahahah
  • GrimulaGrimula Member UncommonPosts: 644
    Ohhhhh how i love stabbing Dogs in the Neck Over and Over and Over and Over

    One of the Best game mechanics 10/10 Bunch of sicko's hahahahahahah
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