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Responding to toxicity in online gaming?

CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 2,911
edited June 14 in The Pub at MMORPG.COM
Hi guys, 

So I was playing Starcraft 2 and playing this guy 1v1. I hated his play style and said, "your play style is cancer" . . . the guy doesn't respond. I guess i'm being a bit salty. I'm losing btw. I was more saying, i hate his play style than anything else. 

I end up in the process of losing, and the guy is like "owned"

This triggered me for some reason, that this guy is sitting here flexing on me cuz he beat me. Now you could say I started it first with saying his play style is cancer, but it is more about the way the person plays than the person itself. I guess I should have said, "I hate this play style."

Either way, after his comment "owned". what would you guys have done?

A) Ignore it. say gg and move on. 
B) Ignore it and leave game. (not doing the customary gg)
C) Respond with personal attacks. 
D) Tell them to F off
E) Or flex on the person, but use RL instead. The rationale here is that in games there are rankings and in life there are rankings. The true RL ranking is happiness . . . but there are other markers. So a person flexes on me in a game, i'll respond with flexing on them in RL (which is more important) and thus topping the other person, potentially. 


Edited. 

To the person who had issue with the use of cancer . . i get it . . . cancer kills a ton of people and loved ones, but it was used as a hyperbole, sort of like saying, "it was hell", etc. 

Then again, I shouldn't have used it though cuz it detracts from the point. 


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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 6,958
    While I generally don't say much about games like SC2 or FPS games because it's usually just short matches against people within a FAIR environment. The fact of the matter is, the rules of SC2 are clearly defined. Two people pick a faction and play against each other utilizing knowledge learned from previous matches. So really, the only advantage one has is knowledge of the game. So not liking someones play style seems kind of pointless.

    As for Toxicity, it's a staple of all PvP games. It goes hand in hand with people's sociopathic behavior. While A LOT of PvP players fall under this category, no one likes to be labeled something bad. So I'll just let the definition dictate the truth.

    Sociopath - A sociopath is a term used to describe someone who has antisocial personality disorder (ASPD). People with ASPD can't understand others' feelings. They'll often break rules or make impulsive decisions without feeling guilty for the harm they cause.


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  • tzervotzervo Member UncommonPosts: 216
    A. You should not be affected by others, nor should they determine if you are classy or not.

    Plus you get to show them that their snark did not get to you :)
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  • VrikaVrika Member EpicPosts: 6,290
    Bottom line: You're a dick.

    You started it by calling his play style cancer. When he reacted to your toxic comment with some of his own, at every point you got a choice you chose to exacerbate the situation.
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  • AAAMEOWAAAMEOW Member RarePosts: 1,335
    I don't know that's toxic.  I keep seeing people dance on my corpse.

    I should make a post every time that happen too.
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  • tzervotzervo Member UncommonPosts: 216
    Vrika said:
    Bottom line: You're a dick.
    New post incoming :)
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 21,939
    So now you see why some PVP games don't allow you to communicate with the other side at all?
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 14,175
    Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

    Also, if you're going to criticize his game play style, it's much more effective if you do it after winning. Doing it while you're losing just makes you sound like a sore loser reaching for excuses.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 12,883
    We should not be "triggered" by anything, you have control and a responsibility for you actions.

    What happened is so on your mind you felt the need to do a thread on here; take a step back and think about all the good things in life. The situation is just not worth your anger or time.
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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,029
    I think if this exchange affected you enough to go on a public message board to discuss it, you should stop talking smack when you PvP.
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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,029
    P.S. you caused me to upvote @Vrika for the first time ever, which underscores how strongly I feel about you using "cancer" as a pvp taunt. 
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 28,264
    edited June 14
    Well, I wouldn't have told someone their play style was cancer. Or, that I didn't like it. I mean, is it allowed in the game? if it is then it's just a choice.

    I would have ignored it. I mean, who cares? Someone saying "owned" doesn't change the fact that I lost and doesn't really affect me in any real way.

    I'm of the opinion that when people seek to add conflict and poison in their lives they get it. Who wants that?

    I know I don't.

    I should add, and this is completely "arm chair therapist," that when people seek such conflict it's not necessarily about the event but about something else in one's life that one is angry about.


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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 35,982
    As I normally did in EVE, no matter how you lose, or win for that matter, all either side needs to say is "good fight" and move on to the next match.


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  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 2,911
    agreed. I was a dick. Just wanted to see how other people react. I was more mad at myself actually than the guy. 
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  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 7,026
    edited June 14
    There is always time to pause and think when you type out something. Speech is harder. I can understand losing your temper when the space of time is between one breath and another but never when you write.

    I have often typed out something in anger and then thought better of it. In a verbal quarrel far less likely.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 28,264
    agreed. I was a dick. Just wanted to see how other people react. I was more mad at myself actually than the guy. 

    Hey it's no big deal, we just get to use these events as ways we can learn about ourselves and how we "want" to be.

    Trust me, I'm no saint. :(
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 17,512
    @op ;

    I had this exact same experiences during my days playing fps'rs,everyday someone would curse my play style.

    Basically i play with strategy and more defensive than offensive.Sometimes they would literally type curse words in foreign languages they would get so mad.

    The thing people SHOULD realize that in a pvp confrontation,it is expected that each person bring their own playstyle to the table.
    Example i was watching Hikaru teach players and his go to method was telling them to be more aggressive.

    For me it was a lot simpler,i had to play my play style because i tend to have a lot of latency issues AND i have never had the good mouse setup where i could aim smoothly,it was always jolted aiming.So i had to use strategy and smarts to think of choke points and prediction.

    Anyhow my point is you shouldn't be complaining about your opponent's play style,that is the whole purpose of a CHALLENGE,to challenge yourself versus other players.

    My go to response to complaints was usually "you want me to just lay on the ground and make it easy for you?"


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  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Member EpicPosts: 2,175
    As a pure soul who would never understand how to even begin to be toxic, I am flabbergasted.
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  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,260
    I love it when someone cries when an opponent uses a legitimate tactic in a game and they just can't handle it, especially when they're losing.

    "Your strategy is better than mine.  You're such a dick!"
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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 6,102
    First, I would not have said what you did in the first place.

    After that, I would ignore without further comment, choice "A", I believe.

    Toxic people want to spread their toxicity and get reactions from others. That's why they do it. It gives some anonymous person power over you if you respond. It's like saying, "I'm offended." You just gave whoever uttered whatever the power to literally make you feel something negative.

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  • cameltosiscameltosis Member EpicPosts: 2,496
    agreed. I was a dick. Just wanted to see how other people react. I was more mad at myself actually than the guy. 

    I dislike confrontations so I wouldn't have gotten into such a situation myself. However, I wish I was better at confrontations, it would mean sorting out issues a lot sooner than usual instead of letting them fester!


    On the subject of other peoples playstyles, for me it comes down to how their gamestyle fits into the grand scheme of the game.


    If their playstyle still fits within the game, then I'm happy with it, even if it pisses me off. For example, I tend to dislike snipers in any FPS, I've never put in the time to get good with them myself so my entire experience is of some "douche" hiding half a map away and killing me without me even seeing them. It sucks. However, it fits in fine with the game in general, most armies with guns have snipers, and so I'm fine with it.

    However, something like fortnite, where at it's heart it's supposed to be a shooter and battle royale, all that shitty jumping / building / spamming crap just looks and plays awful. But, it's effective, and for some reason children love it. So, I just can't play a game like that, because that playstyle is not just something I don't like, but feels completely wrong.
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  • xpsyncxpsync Member RarePosts: 816
    owned was pretty tame after what you said to him.

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  • xpsyncxpsync Member RarePosts: 816
    edited June 15
    My best advice for dealing with toxic asshats is to not deal with them at all.

    Example:

    Not with guild, was filling in a open spot i read in g chat. Anyway doing a raid, i'm 4th dps throughout, touching 2nd at times, a few hours later and i mean this blew me away.

    A vote to kick me, in chat the turkey wrote about how i'm not contributing and afk most of the time in chat and a vote pops to boot me, and people not paying attention click ofc, and that was it booted out before i could even write WTF? in chat.

    So i sent the lowlife a whisper and something along the lines of you're definitely going to fail now, then blocked him, oooooo i love that move, you get the last say, which BURNS THEIR ASS right away, i mean they are beyond PO'd that they can't feed, gawd you just know that burns their f'ing ass, ahhhh so satisfying "just don't deal with them at all." Works every time.

    End story i know they failed as after the idiot got me booted a got 4 or 5 whispers immediately asking WTF was that about. Hours later one sent me a tell and said it just got worse after and that i was lucky to get out when i did, so thx asshat :)
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  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Member EpicPosts: 2,175
    AlBQuirky said:
    First, I would not have said what you did in the first place.

    After that, I would ignore without further comment, choice "A", I believe.

    Toxic people want to spread their toxicity and get reactions from others. That's why they do it. It gives some anonymous person power over you if you respond. It's like saying, "I'm offended." You just gave whoever uttered whatever the power to literally make you feel something negative.
    Your non-offensiveness offends me.
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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 6,102
    OG_Zorvan said:
    AlBQuirky said:
    First, I would not have said what you did in the first place.

    After that, I would ignore without further comment, choice "A", I believe.

    Toxic people want to spread their toxicity and get reactions from others. That's why they do it. It gives some anonymous person power over you if you respond. It's like saying, "I'm offended." You just gave whoever uttered whatever the power to literally make you feel something negative.
    Your non-offensiveness offends me.
    mind...

    spinning...
    OG_Zorvan

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    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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  • CombspeCombspe Member UncommonPosts: 134
    I would of told him to eat a **** and I would come over later to ********* his mom.
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