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Recommend a Gaming PC (desktop only) max budget 750.00 + tax

EmeraqEmeraq Member UncommonPosts: 1,024
It's finally time to cave in and buy a new PC, I have an old HP A6 -3600 with 8 GB DDR3 with only the video card being more current with an RX570. However, my wife discovered that my PC was prepared for blast off in the middle of the night last night (the fan was running so loud and screen went black and it wouldn't fire up even after a few minutes of cool down)  So I'm looking to keep at 750.00 tops, monitor not necessary.  I've found this, https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-9400f-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1650-super-1tb-hdd-240gb-ssd-black/6400463.p?skuId=6400463. But not having a lot of luck in my search. Anyone have any feedback on this, have a better suggestion?  and no I can not build my own.

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  • EmeraqEmeraq Member UncommonPosts: 1,024
     achesoma said:
    I'm not seeing details on the graphics card for that, or am I missing something?
  • EmeraqEmeraq Member UncommonPosts: 1,024
    I admit I don't know a whole lot about the components in PC's but If it's the Ryzen you are focussing on, what makes the Vybe better than this? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-3600-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-2tb-hdd-240gb-ssd-black/6362427.p?skuId=6362427
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,071
    Emeraq said:
     achesoma said:
    I'm not seeing details on the graphics card for that, or am I missing something?
    ...there is no discrete graphics card.

    It is a terrible suggestion, just forget about it.
    MightyUnclean
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 17,648
    edited June 13
    Just so happens i sort of glanced over a video Linus tech Tips did a while back doing a $800 gaming PC.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8BEDv_p8TQ

    BTW LTT also has other videos on building your own pc and forums to peruse or ask questions.

    I did notice some other videos from other people doing the same thing,so lots of resources out there.

    I will say this,i didn't watch the video,at least not that i remember but i have watched his $500 garage wars challenge and they were often cheating with connections to non typical prices and still struggled to keep the budget at $500.

    Point being i am not so sure $800 is a good price point but i think you'd get a decent PC.You do have to beware buying anything over the internet,there are scammers everywhere,including knockoffs that pretend to be the original as well as false advertising on the packaging.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,071
    edited June 13
    I would suggest you finding local shop to build the pc for you from parts you either pick up or outright just bring in yourself. The fee for assembling should not be higher than 100$.

    The problem is, for 750$ you won't get much better rig than you currently have. Your gpu is still decent so you should use it.

    The other, the most obvious option is to get your fan/pc repaired...
    MightyUnclean
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 17,648
    edited June 13
    You check serial numbers on parts to be sure you got the real deal.Also make sure your case has the space for your parts.

    If building is not your thing,i think the best bang for your buck is Cyberpower,at least i think that is what they are called,i don't have a great memory anymore,comes n goes.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • achesomaachesoma Member RarePosts: 1,225
    Emeraq said:
     achesoma said:
    I'm not seeing details on the graphics card for that, or am I missing something?
    Yeah it’s an integrated GPU. I got the pages mixed up somehow. Not the one I intended to show. I realized the one I intended was $1k anyhow. My apologies. 
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  • EmeraqEmeraq Member UncommonPosts: 1,024
    Gdemami said:
    I would suggest you finding local shop to build the pc for you from parts you either pick up or outright just bring in yourself. The fee for assembling should not be higher than 100$.

    The problem is, for 750$ you won't get much better rig than you currently have. Your gpu is still decent so you should use it.

    The other, the most obvious option is to get your fan/pc repaired...
    I'm not actually sure what needs repaired, and how much having it diagnosed and repairs would run. I know my graphics card in my current machine is decent but the CPU is pretty outdated, the Ryzen CPU in one of the 749.00 machine with the 2 TB HDD and 240 GB SSD (mine currently only has 1 TB HDD and no SDD) shows on a comparison to be a better CPU. I know price doesn't mean much but my old A6 3600 CPU can be bought at 25 bucks whereas the Ryzen 3600 is like 89.00.  It seems to me that machine is a much better machine than I curently have and not sure I even want to get this one repaired.
  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,293
    @Emeraq what types of games do you play and how important are graphics to you?  Depending on the answer, you might be better off getting your current PC repaired and saving up for a higher end gaming desktop.  If you're not that into newer games or more graphically demanding games, $700-800 will get you a perfectly adequate setup.
  • EmeraqEmeraq Member UncommonPosts: 1,024
    edited June 13
    @Emeraq what types of games do you play and how important are graphics to you?  Depending on the answer, you might be better off getting your current PC repaired and saving up for a higher end gaming desktop.  If you're not that into newer games or more graphically demanding games, $700-800 will get you a perfectly adequate setup.
    Before the current issues with this old machine, and the RX 570 card in it, it was running LoTRO, STO, SWTOR, ESO, FFXIV, Skyrim, etc at high and running them well enough for me, at least my old eyes couldn't detect any frame rate issues or slow downs. The only issues out of all of those I had is the final boss fight in every dungeon in FFXIV I seemed to have a little bit of a lag loading in and my party at times were already engaging the enemy when I loaded in. But I don't experience anything like that with any other games. Which is why I'm thinking a 750.00 build with future memory and graphic card updates might suffice me for as long as I've had this old machine here, which is 9 years.
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,071
    edited June 13
    Emeraq said:
    I'm not actually sure what needs repaired, and how much having it diagnosed and repairs would run.
    ..yeah, cost of a repair(the work) is an issue.

    Then, I strongly recommend finding a local shop that will aseemble the pc for you, some might do it even for "free" is you purchase all the components at their shop. 

    It is miles better than any of those pre-built that mostly rip you off not only on hefty assembly fee but on the components too.

    For the components, you want something like this:

    CPU 170$ - Ryzen 3600, Intel  i5-9400f, Ryzen 3300x w/e comes cheaper in this order.

    https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600/p/N82E16819113569?&quicklink=true

    Motherboard 70$ - pretty much any board will suffice, b450 for Ryzen or h310 for i5.

    https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h/p/N82E16813145083?&quicklink=true

    RAM 60$ - 16 is a fair standard these days but 8gb would still work for light gaming(according to your game list) too

    https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232884

    PSU 60$ - seasonic, antec, corsair, evga, cooler master make okeyish budget psus, 500w is plentifull

    https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-cx450-450w/p/N82E16817139201

    SSD 115$ - nice to have :) SATA is fine but nVme was just 15$ more, could save a bit there

    https://www.newegg.com/adata-1tb-swordfish/p/0D9-0017-001S5?&quicklink=true

    Case $60 - pick what you like

    https://www.newegg.com/black-antec-performance-series-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811129236


    Total: 544$

    That is not including GPU. If you want one, you would need to add additional 200$.

    Some compromises could have been made to lower the price a bit or just hunt for better deals elsewhere but I wouldn't sacrify much more there. I am on phone do used newegg.com as a reference.
    MightyUnclean
  • VrikaVrika Member EpicPosts: 6,338
    edited June 13
    Emeraq you could save a lot of money if you scavenged some parts from your old computer and build your own system.

    -Cases don't really get old in the same way other computer components get. You can keep your old computer case assuming it's good enough.
    -Your hard disk breaking wouldn't cause that kind of failure (it doesn't have fans and a broken hard disk normally does not stop the computer from starting at all). Your hard disk should still be intact and you can keep it
    -Assuming that you have Windows 10, you should be able to keep it and reuse it in new computer
    -You can test your old RX 570: Just take it off your old computer. If the computer still refuses to work, then something else is broken, and while it's not impossible that you'd have multiple broken things that RX 570 is likely intact


    You'd need to buy new motherboard + processors + RAM combo because even if your old ones work they're all old and due for a replacement. You'd also need to buy new PSU just to be safe - it's safer to not reuse PSU of a computer with unkown failure. I'd also recommend buying an SSD just because SSD drives are so much faster than old HDDs that it makes no sense to get a new/update computer without an SSD.

    That's only 5 items you'd need.

    For example:

    CPU: $167
      https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600/p/N82E16819113569
    Motherboard: $73
      https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h/p/N82E16813145083
    RAM: $60
      https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331359
    SSD: $120
      https://www.newegg.com/intel-660p-series-1tb/p/N82E16820167462
    Power Supply: $50
      https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-W1-0500-KR

    That's only $470, plus possibly few dollars extra for shipping, and you'd get a computer that's better than those $750 prebuilds.


    EDIT: Keeping your old case together with the motherboard I suggested would require that it's an mATX or ATX case so that it's big enough for the new motherboard.

    Even if you get new SSD you can transfer the old HDD from your old computer and use it as extra storage space. I'd still recommend getting a good SSD though - it should also fix your issue with FF XIV loading times /EDIT
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  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,218
    You have to factor in the OS.
    I think your request is a bit difficult at this time. I just did a search of the cheap PC assemblers and they are charging way too much for what is effectively a $400 PC. I used to have trouble beating their price building my own.
    But building your own today looks like it will be saving you at least $250. I just did a build where the bulk of the cost was in the case under $750 and the specs beat anything pre-assembled today at that price point.
  • EmeraqEmeraq Member UncommonPosts: 1,024
    Thanks everyone. I have a lot to learn and consider.

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