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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 7,982
    YashaX said:
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    The lag is annoying, but its nowhere near as bad as the OP is making it out to be. And in terms of RvR pvp there is no other game that is as good as ESO atm. 
    IMO Warhammer crushes it , its not even close , ive played both extensivley

    I have played both quite a lot as well, IMO ESO crushes WAR, its so much better that its not even close.


    Every aspect of ESO's rvr and gameplay is just light years better than what WAR offered, although back in the day, many, many years ago, it was good for its time.
    WAR had a mickey mouse system that encouraged capturing undefended keeps so most of the time was spent avoiding fights and just flipping keeps over and over.

    IDK how anyone in their right mind could ever say that their system was better,

    WAR's 2-sided RvR rewards were heavily biased in favor of attacking hence the keep flipping nonsense. ESO, OTOH, biases in favor of defending with XP and RvR point ticks while you're defending as well as a very large tick after a successful defense when the attacks have stopped for long enough to be considered a final outcome. This means that in ESO keeps are only ever not defended when the owners are busy elsewhere because the incentive for defending is huge. That alone makes it far superior. And then there's the 3-sided thing for the added strategy.

    I was involved in many hour long keep battles in ESO and that just never happened in WAR,

    you actually have to play War today to have a valid opinion here ,I was in a 720 Destro vs 645 Order in Reikland a couple weeks ago after a full day of battling and both keeps breached to inner numerous times , the zone was still contested .. Performance was fine also in this 2 day epic battle ..

     As i have said in other threads relative to War , the game that the current Devs have running is vastly superior in Many ways to the War that EA shut down .. 2 very different experiences in many ways .. I got RR 83 in live , and am at 80 on the EMu server ive played in Cyrodill to CO 460 , The experiences are vastly different .. War is superior that is clear ..

      I  have 1 complaint on War , and that is the Fort system ,(the first portion) it is really shit , but they are exploring options to make this a better part of the RvR experience..

    Right now keeps in ESO are much easier to flip

    Right now War resource system is more engaging

    Right now War is more fun ....

    Right now ,, Wars class system is much more tactical and group oriented ( Not just a Zerg Fest)demanding organization and cooperation.. between Tanks/Heals/DPS

     Right Now .. the coordination between Warbands to take Keeps or flip zones is vastly superior to anything that ESO offers in this area

    Right Now it seems  people have opinion on Wars system that have not played it in years (or high enough in Tier to know the difference)

      Right now today ESO is a joke compared imo


    Nah, I've played it and just uninstalled it recently. Doesn't hold a flame to ESO or even GW2 unfortunately.

    Awesome , would you like to share Char name , Level ,RR , Tier of gear you retired in , im assuming to form a valid opinion of War it was at least Vanquisher ... They have an Armoury that we can verify this , Would like to see how far you got ?
    Lol.

    hmm no such Character Exists .. Thx that answer my question tho .....Lol exactly

    I went to the armory and even my Squid Herder was dreaming about being a cool Dragon Knight in ESO:

    https://imgur.com/a/Vfns8w5


    lol.... funny and all .. But that does nothing to back up your position on War


    I'm only telling you what I honestly think. I gave WAR another chance because I had fond memories of the game, but the warm glow of nostalgia was quickly extinguished by the harsh light of reality, as all the things that annoyed me about the mmos of yesteryear came flooding back. And all I was left with was the stark fact that WAR was/is a vastly inferior game on nearly every level compared to ESO.

    Believe it or not that really saddened me because I was getting sick of the lag and other aspects of ESO and really wanted to find a new home. But I'm just not willing to move out of my comfy mansion to go live in a hovel. 

    The bottom line is: I would be playing WAR if it was even half as good as ESO, but really its not. Despite that, I would encourage anyone who is looking for a RvR game to check out WAR. Even though I found it to be lacking compared to more recent offerings, it still has a lot of character and you might like it. 

    Thats actually a fair enough answer, but i will tell you , and i do not think you did ..

     If you didn not play War (this version) to where you are equipped in Vanq in T4 you really would not have an understnading of the RvR at all
    Well, that in itself is quite a problem. 

    Not really , you could get there in a couple months , playing hard
  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 2,926
    Scorchien said:
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    YashaX said:
    Scorchien said:
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    Iselin said:
    YashaX said:
    Scorchien said:
    YashaX said:
    The lag is annoying, but its nowhere near as bad as the OP is making it out to be. And in terms of RvR pvp there is no other game that is as good as ESO atm. 
    IMO Warhammer crushes it , its not even close , ive played both extensivley

    I have played both quite a lot as well, IMO ESO crushes WAR, its so much better that its not even close.


    Every aspect of ESO's rvr and gameplay is just light years better than what WAR offered, although back in the day, many, many years ago, it was good for its time.
    WAR had a mickey mouse system that encouraged capturing undefended keeps so most of the time was spent avoiding fights and just flipping keeps over and over.

    IDK how anyone in their right mind could ever say that their system was better,

    WAR's 2-sided RvR rewards were heavily biased in favor of attacking hence the keep flipping nonsense. ESO, OTOH, biases in favor of defending with XP and RvR point ticks while you're defending as well as a very large tick after a successful defense when the attacks have stopped for long enough to be considered a final outcome. This means that in ESO keeps are only ever not defended when the owners are busy elsewhere because the incentive for defending is huge. That alone makes it far superior. And then there's the 3-sided thing for the added strategy.

    I was involved in many hour long keep battles in ESO and that just never happened in WAR,

    you actually have to play War today to have a valid opinion here ,I was in a 720 Destro vs 645 Order in Reikland a couple weeks ago after a full day of battling and both keeps breached to inner numerous times , the zone was still contested .. Performance was fine also in this 2 day epic battle ..

     As i have said in other threads relative to War , the game that the current Devs have running is vastly superior in Many ways to the War that EA shut down .. 2 very different experiences in many ways .. I got RR 83 in live , and am at 80 on the EMu server ive played in Cyrodill to CO 460 , The experiences are vastly different .. War is superior that is clear ..

      I  have 1 complaint on War , and that is the Fort system ,(the first portion) it is really shit , but they are exploring options to make this a better part of the RvR experience..

    Right now keeps in ESO are much easier to flip

    Right now War resource system is more engaging

    Right now War is more fun ....

    Right now ,, Wars class system is much more tactical and group oriented ( Not just a Zerg Fest)demanding organization and cooperation.. between Tanks/Heals/DPS

     Right Now .. the coordination between Warbands to take Keeps or flip zones is vastly superior to anything that ESO offers in this area

    Right Now it seems  people have opinion on Wars system that have not played it in years (or high enough in Tier to know the difference)

      Right now today ESO is a joke compared imo


    Nah, I've played it and just uninstalled it recently. Doesn't hold a flame to ESO or even GW2 unfortunately.

    Awesome , would you like to share Char name , Level ,RR , Tier of gear you retired in , im assuming to form a valid opinion of War it was at least Vanquisher ... They have an Armoury that we can verify this , Would like to see how far you got ?
    Lol.

    hmm no such Character Exists .. Thx that answer my question tho .....Lol exactly

    I went to the armory and even my Squid Herder was dreaming about being a cool Dragon Knight in ESO:

    https://imgur.com/a/Vfns8w5


    lol.... funny and all .. But that does nothing to back up your position on War


    I'm only telling you what I honestly think. I gave WAR another chance because I had fond memories of the game, but the warm glow of nostalgia was quickly extinguished by the harsh light of reality, as all the things that annoyed me about the mmos of yesteryear came flooding back. And all I was left with was the stark fact that WAR was/is a vastly inferior game on nearly every level compared to ESO.

    Believe it or not that really saddened me because I was getting sick of the lag and other aspects of ESO and really wanted to find a new home. But I'm just not willing to move out of my comfy mansion to go live in a hovel. 

    The bottom line is: I would be playing WAR if it was even half as good as ESO, but really its not. Despite that, I would encourage anyone who is looking for a RvR game to check out WAR. Even though I found it to be lacking compared to more recent offerings, it still has a lot of character and you might like it. 

    Thats actually a fair enough answer, but i will tell you , and i do not think you did ..

     If you didn not play War (this version) to where you are equipped in Vanq in T4 you really would not have an understnading of the RvR at all
    Well, that in itself is quite a problem. 

    Not really , you could get there in a couple months , playing hard
    If you have to play "hard" for two months before you can even assess whether a game is good, then there is a fundamental problem with the game. 
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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 7,982
    No , thats not what was said at all, I said it would take that time to get in Vanq and have a full understanding off the RVR mechainics  , not determine if its good ....2 very different things ..

      

     Why the semantics ...

  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 2,926
    Scorchien said:
    No , thats not what was said at all, I said it would take that time to get in Vanq and have a full understanding off the RVR mechainics  , not determine if its good ....2 very different things ..

      

     Why the semantics ...



    So when I said the game sucked compared to ESO you claimed I needed to show you proof that I had Vanq gear before my point of view was "valid" and now you say I don't need Vanq gear to know the game is shit. Make up your mind for crying out loud.
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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 4,920


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