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Old school games were clearly better

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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 6,152
    newbismx said:
    All I had was an empty tin can and a paperclip to play with =(
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  • ShaighShaigh Member RarePosts: 2,056
    The old school board games I played when growing up were pretty bad, the strategic games took way too much time and then you had the luckbased games. Not counting in classical games like chess and go because they are a completely different beast.

    I got to knew a friend that bought lots of board games in early 00's and that's when I got into board games and in general you had lots of interesting games that took somewhere between 60-180 minutes meaning you could easily play them in an evening.

    Started playing gloomhaven recently, I like those sorts of campaign based RPG-styled board games more than PnP RPG now.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 36,135
    edited February 13
    Shaigh said:
    The old school board games I played when growing up were pretty bad, the strategic games took way too much time and then you had the luckbased games. 

    I got to knew a friend that bought lots of board games in early 00's and that's when I got into board games and in general you had lots of interesting games that took somewhere between 60-180 minutes meaning you could easily play them in an evening.


    Hrrm... so even board game makers started catering to "filthy casuals" and whiners who complained the old school games took too much time, and weren't skill based enough.....

    Perhaps they were the ones who started such trends, even before MMORPGs went down the same road...

    Looks like we have finally identified who was to blame for the decline into easy mode gaming, time to start boiling the tar and plucking the chickens...

    They are going to make such a lovely fire as we burn them....


    ;)


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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 6,273
    edited February 13
    When I was a kid, it was always "Snakes and Ladders"

    After a little reading its interesting to note that the game originated in 13 century India as "Moksha Patam". It made its way to England as "Snakes and Ladders" in 1892. "Chutes and Ladders" was Milton Bradley's version of the game and was introduced in 1943.

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  • UtinniUtinni Member EpicPosts: 1,885
    Kyleran said:
    Shaigh said:
    The old school board games I played when growing up were pretty bad, the strategic games took way too much time and then you had the luckbased games. 

    I got to knew a friend that bought lots of board games in early 00's and that's when I got into board games and in general you had lots of interesting games that took somewhere between 60-180 minutes meaning you could easily play them in an evening.


    Hrrm... so even board game makers started catering to "filthy casuals" and whiners who complained the old school games took too much time, and weren't skill based enough.....

    Perhaps they were the ones who started such trends, even before MMORPGs went down the same road...

    Looks like we have finally identified who was to blame for the decline into easy mode gaming, time to start boiling the tar and plucking the chickens...

    They are going to make such a lovely fire as we burn them....


    ;)


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  • ultimateduckultimateduck Member RarePosts: 752
    Kyleran said:
    Shaigh said:
    The old school board games I played when growing up were pretty bad, the strategic games took way too much time and then you had the luckbased games. 

    I got to knew a friend that bought lots of board games in early 00's and that's when I got into board games and in general you had lots of interesting games that took somewhere between 60-180 minutes meaning you could easily play them in an evening.


    Hrrm... so even board game makers started catering to "filthy casuals" and whiners who complained the old school games took too much time, and weren't skill based enough.....

    Perhaps they were the ones who started such trends, even before MMORPGs went down the same road...

    Looks like we have finally identified who was to blame for the decline into easy mode gaming, time to start boiling the tar and plucking the chickens...

    They are going to make such a lovely fire as we burn them....


    ;)



    Monopoly was a grind fest.
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  • FrykkaFrykka Member UncommonPosts: 154
    My favorites were Gostop and Baduk
    For western games my favorite was an old Dune game from Avalon Hill.
    I played that every weekend for a long time with friends.  

    See the source image
    With 6 players Dune is by far the best strategic game, I have 2 copies in my collection.  My most complicated being "Freedom in the Galaxy" and "Magic Realm".  I have the original Squad Leader complete and ASL which we played a lot in the 1980s.  I extensively added rules to Titan, Elric, and Dragon Pass.  I used to get a regular game of the classic "Blitskrieg" going at Christmas with my oldest kid.
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  • ultimateduckultimateduck Member RarePosts: 752


    Anyone else remember Gamma World. For me, it was between D&D, AD&D and Gamma World... later dabbing in Marvel Superheroes and Star Trek
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  • UngoodUngood Member EpicPosts: 4,113
    Warhammer and MTG were my highschool tabletop games of choice. 
    You did not pick a cheap gaming hobby did you?
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  • AmarantharAmaranthar Member RarePosts: 4,113


    Anyone else remember Gamma World. For me, it was between D&D, AD&D and Gamma World... later dabbing in Marvel Superheroes and Star Trek
    Yes, indeed. 
    My old D&D friends had moved on from gaming, and most had moved away, by that time. But I saw this and on a whim I bought it just to take a look-see. 
    I actually liked it quite a bit. Quite different in a Thundar The Barbarian sort of way, and well designed I thought, since I had no one to play it with for a real test. 

    I designed a system of weighted random rolls as a sort of AI that worked really well, and had to try my best to DM myself without bias (lol), in DMing things that wouldn't fall under an AI. 

    That game was simple, yet very playable in my opinion, with a good DM and well developed world.
    I've suggested Thundar The Barbarian as a possible type of game for an MMORPG, but this game was what really inspired that idea. 

    I loved the Duo-Brain and double action capability. I'm not sure how balanced that would be though. But I'm sure it could be limited and still interesting. 
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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,354
    edited February 13
    newbismx said:
    All I had was an empty tin can and a paperclip to play with =(

    don't feel bad, i remember making little "soldiers" and cars with mud and playing with them after they dried up.
    AlBQuirky




  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 7,551
    edited February 13
    Kyleran said:
    Shaigh said:
    The old school board games I played when growing up were pretty bad, the strategic games took way too much time and then you had the luckbased games. 

    I got to knew a friend that bought lots of board games in early 00's and that's when I got into board games and in general you had lots of interesting games that took somewhere between 60-180 minutes meaning you could easily play them in an evening.


    Hrrm... so even board game makers started catering to "filthy casuals" and whiners who complained the old school games took too much time, and weren't skill based enough.....

    Perhaps they were the ones who started such trends, even before MMORPGs went down the same road...

    Looks like we have finally identified who was to blame for the decline into easy mode gaming, time to start boiling the tar and plucking the chickens...

    They are going to make such a lovely fire as we burn them....


    ;)



    Monopoly was a grind fest.

    I don't think I ever actually finished a game of Monopoly (we called it Monotony)
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  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member RarePosts: 2,808
    Kyleran said:
    Shaigh said:
    The old school board games I played when growing up were pretty bad, the strategic games took way too much time and then you had the luckbased games. 

    I got to knew a friend that bought lots of board games in early 00's and that's when I got into board games and in general you had lots of interesting games that took somewhere between 60-180 minutes meaning you could easily play them in an evening.


    Hrrm... so even board game makers started catering to "filthy casuals" and whiners who complained the old school games took too much time, and weren't skill based enough.....

    Perhaps they were the ones who started such trends, even before MMORPGs went down the same road...

    Looks like we have finally identified who was to blame for the decline into easy mode gaming, time to start boiling the tar and plucking the chickens...

    They are going to make such a lovely fire as we burn them....


    ;)



    Monopoly was a grind fest.

    I don't think I ever actually finished a game of Monopoly (we called it Monotony)
    What I find funniest about Monopoly is that it was a game designed to show the evils of Capitalism.  Then it got bought, and turned into a huge long-running asset.   
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  • Gamer54321Gamer54321 Member UncommonPosts: 452
    edited February 19
    Cyberpunk 2020 (pen and paper)
    Monopoly
    Risk
    Axis and allies (sadly I didn't play enough of this, a somewhat tedious game to get going iirc)

    I want to take the opportunity to just say, that, given how far off I think Cyberpunk 2077 is from the 2020 pen and paper game, and how I disliekd Witcher 3, and how it is basically a console port of a game, I don't think I will like it, but I will ofc watch reviews of it on youtube.
  • NarugNarug Member UncommonPosts: 755
    edited March 29
    Sorry to aid in necroing the thread.

    Edit:  Sorry my previous comment was in error so I deleted it

    Also if the photo bombing is too much I can tune it down

    Besides Monopoly before I found video games

    Conquest of the Empire - This was one I really enjoyed

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_the_Empire

    Conquest of the Empire is a military strategy board game set in the Roman Empire after the death of Marcus Aurelius, with 2 to 6 players pitting their armies against each other in an attempt to become the ruler of Rome. The game was originally created in 1982 by Larry Harris and published by The Citadel under the title VI Caesars. Harris revised the game for Milton Bradley in 1984 to be reissued under the title Conquest of the Empire as part of the Gamemaster series. The game was re-released in the summer of 2005 by Eagle Games, redesigned by Glenn Drover. The gameplay in Conquest of the Empire shares similarities to Axis & Allies, another Larry Harris project within the same series.














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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 8,243
    Risk was a game we use to play day after day. Used to own 3 copies of the game because friends would come over and everyone wanted to play. Guess thats an old fashion lan party lol. 

    I still play board games...

    https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B003D7F4YY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1


    I love this game. Its unique in that everyone playing is playing together to beat the game. You have to plan your moves together to win the game. Its fast paced and a hoot. Sometimes playing the game 2-5 times in a row and its fun as new players start to get how to win. 
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  • tzervotzervo Member RarePosts: 314
    edited July 28
    Funny how some things did not change that much since then.

    We also had cheaters, bugs and exploits (aka holes in the rules that allowed misinterpretation and drama following up), balancing issues etc back then :P
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  • tzervotzervo Member RarePosts: 314
    Frykka said:
    My favorites were Gostop and Baduk
    For western games my favorite was an old Dune game from Avalon Hill.
    I played that every weekend for a long time with friends.  

    See the source image
    With 6 players Dune is by far the best strategic game, I have 2 copies in my collection.  My most complicated being "Freedom in the Galaxy" and "Magic Realm".  I have the original Squad Leader complete and ASL which we played a lot in the 1980s.  I extensively added rules to Titan, Elric, and Dragon Pass.  I used to get a regular game of the classic "Blitskrieg" going at Christmas with my oldest kid.
    Avalon Hill always made top notch games.

    I still remember fondly playing "Republic of Rome" and "Wooden Ships and Iron Men" with friends. In "Republic of Rome" (a cutthroat politics game where the game itself also fights the players to force them to balance between cooperating and backstabbing each other, and all players might lose to Hannibal running over Rome), I still remember after decades how a friend of mine won a session by having one of his senators kill off another unpopular one of his, so that his leader gets more influence and gets nominated "Consul for Life".
    blueturtle13AlBQuirky
  • kitaradkitarad Member EpicPosts: 5,834
    edited July 28
    Scrabble and Monopoly.

    Games like Chess, Go or Japanese Chess defeat me because I cannot plan ahead and improvise while playing.

    I do play Mahjong well with other old ladies.
    blueturtle13AlBQuirkycheyane

  • sumdumguy1sumdumguy1 Member RarePosts: 1,338
    I played board games alot.  Beyond the family ones, I also played Talisman, Paydirt and Shadowrun the most.  I really wanted to play D and D but had no one who played or wanted to learn among my friends.  
    blueturtle13AlBQuirky
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 28,375
    kitarad said:
    Scrabble and Monopoly.

    Games like Chess, Go or Japanese Chess defeat me because I cannot plan ahead and improvise while playing.

    I do play Mahjong well with other old ladies.
    ugh Mahjong,

    A friend of mine learned Americna Mahjong and joined a group who played every week. They needed a 4th so I learned. 

    It's like some madman created it. Especialy at the start when you are going to the right and the center and the left and back to the center.

    I think of all the times I played I only won once. And I can never remember the "hand" on the card and don't know if I should change, etc. 

    If you can play Mahjong I think you can play chess!
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  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,227
    I played board games alot.  Beyond the family ones, I also played Talisman, Paydirt and Shadowrun the most.  I really wanted to play D and D but had no one who played or wanted to learn among my friends.  
    Yeah tabletop is something I still do but only about once or twice a month anymore. It is hard to get everyone together like we used to. I saw that Vaesen launched today. Made by the same people that did the tabletop Alien game that was great. 

    https://roleplayinggameonline.com/vaesen-horror-rpg-launched-today/

    I always liked the gothic horror even with a tabletop game. With the Ravenloft rerelease that was just released as mentioned here on this site. 
    Now if we could only get a real Ravenloft video game. (Not going to count Neverwinter's Ravenloft joke they released) 


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  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 6,447
    tzervo said:
    Funny how some things did not change that much since then.

    We also had cheaters, bugs and exploits (aka holes in the rules that allowed misinterpretation and drama following up), balancing issues etc back then :P
    Your acting like it was 40 years ago
  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Newbie CommonPosts: 8
    edited July 28
    Loved all the board games and card games with the family.  My friends and I were more on the tail end of the table top RPG golden era (early 90s) but we played AD&D, D&D, Marvel Superheros... but then we just tried out a bunch of other more obscure ones.  There was even one set in a cold war theme between the USA and USSR ... cant recall the name.
    blueturtle13tzervoAlBQuirky
  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Newbie CommonPosts: 8
    Oh honest question, did your GMs abide by permadeath of your character sheet during sessions if there was a full wipe?
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