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YouTube’s FTC-Mandated Rules for Kids Content Infuriate Creators

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  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,190
    The problem with "Whether the video includes characters, celebrities, or toys that appeal to children, including animated characters or cartoon figures." is that ANYTHING can appeal to children... George Carlin was appealing to children... 

    Now i highly doubt that someone would go after even a channel like Jazza or Jacksepticeye if they mislabel stuff or do some Kingdom Hearts content... But until a few fines have been metered out we do not know what they will be targeting and it is harsh to ask someone to take that blow. And to be bloody fair getting rid of most of the creepy and abusive "kids content" is almost worth it. But just almost... 

    But this is ofc a blessing in not that much disguise for Youtube/google... Seeing that they have wanted to drive all but the most profitable channels away for years. Now they have a chance to kill of a bunch more. 

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  • anemoanemo Member RarePosts: 1,894
    Well you'd be an idiot to think that this wasn't coming.

    You can't have retards like Jake Paul showing dead bodies on a channel mostly for people under 18.   PewDiePie spouting racial slurs on a stream, or siccing 13 year olds after "thots" on twitter.   And worse YouTube explicitly set up to reward such drama by featuring the videos/channels more predominantly (to the point that YouTube creators purposefully bake drama into their finical planning as a way of growth). 

    Frankly it's pretty clear that the rules that the FTC choose for YouTube to follow for COPPA were made by utterly exasperated, exhausted, and underfunded departments that are just sick of being forced to think about YouTube and the complaints that it generates.   And especially the complaints that would be generated again if their first actions weren't effective.
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 17,854
    First of all the FTC is a big time joke that does VERY little investigating and especially to the general public complaints.
    it takes a big payoff for the FTC to act,a sure win in the courts.

    I can just point a finger at Wizard 101,a definite kid targeted game but has never been fined for gambling purchases and even media videos that are nothing more than advertisements to the cash shop.Their obvious denial would be that all purchases are made by adults,well doh,yeah a kid can't use a CC...obviously,the fact it that it is the INTENT to target the kids first,then the parent moves in with the CC.

    As to this whole You Tube thing,there is likely a lot more to it,especially knowing how little the FTC actually performs it's DUTIES.

    So there are two things here,You Tube is trying to cover it's ass by denouncing such material.The reason this simple lame approach works is because You Tube would just claim it has millions and millions of viewers and cannot police every single user all the time.On the other hand the FTC is looking for more big paydays and wants vague guidelines so that they alone control the outcome/results.
    So i am sure that YouTube/Google are such a large entity they feel the heat coming from the governing bodies.My point is that i do not for one minute feel You Tube cares about ANY of it's content,this is all just legal mumbo jumbo.
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  • NorseGodNorseGod Member EpicPosts: 2,634
    Who let's their kids on the internet, unsupervised? And why is it my problem?
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  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 7,227
    Gutlard said:
    cheyane said:
    I have a lot of videos on youtube but they are not monetized.
    Could you still possibly get sued though?

    My 11yo son posted a few vids and then moved on with his ADHD self...should I mark his vids for kids just to make sure he doesn't get sued??

    Gut Out!
    Well, hmm, I think it related to the advertising no ?
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  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,212
    TEKK3N said:
    It’s maybe time for a new Youtube which is not based in the US.

    Today Youtube is just a place where you watch trailers and TV repeats.
    All the interesting content has been censored or heavily regulated.

    I am sure there is room for a new video platform out of reach of US regulators (or even worse the EU).
    FTC will still go after US based content makers if making revenue and aimed at US viewership.
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 3,227
    edited November 2019
    cheyane said:
    Gutlard said:
    cheyane said:
    I have a lot of videos on youtube but they are not monetized.
    Could you still possibly get sued though?

    My 11yo son posted a few vids and then moved on with his ADHD self...should I mark his vids for kids just to make sure he doesn't get sued??

    Gut Out!
    Well, hmm, I think it related to the advertising no ?
    No, it's also about protecting the kids which is why vid marked as for kids will not be able to have comments enabled etc.

    The way it is written you can get sued for having the wrong tags period regardless of it being monetized or having adverts or not. 


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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 7,140
    Imagine if parents were responsible for their kids. Crazy thoughts, I know.
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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 6,302
    Rhoklaw said:
    Imagine if parents were responsible for their kids. Crazy thoughts, I know.
    In a lot of cases the kids are more mature and responsible than the parents.
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  • VrikaVrika Member EpicPosts: 6,428
    Rhoklaw said:
    Imagine if parents were responsible for their kids. Crazy thoughts, I know.
    You can't expect the advertisers' parents to tell them when they're doing something unsuitable for children.
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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member EpicPosts: 10,643
    They really just need to differentiate their services then, and not leave it up to each user or force people to choose what they want their channel to be.  

    Two completely separate services, and let creators upload to two separate sites. This one size to fit all situation is too convoluted and puts too many people at risk by allowing potential mislabeled videos to appear on the same service, when in actuality, having parents push kids to a separate service dedicated to them would be the most ideal.  

    It's like, not long ago there was a story about porn sites having non-sexual game content on there, but if a kid is going there for their main source of video game watching, it's not the fault of the site when they see something wrong, and the parents should take all of the responsibility.
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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 10,211
    edited November 2019
    I wonder how long will it take for content creators to start being protected by “gig” laws like uber drivers and such
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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 7,140
    They really just need to differentiate their services then, and not leave it up to each user or force people to choose what they want their channel to be.  

    Two completely separate services, and let creators upload to two separate sites. This one size to fit all situation is too convoluted and puts too many people at risk by allowing potential mislabeled videos to appear on the same service, when in actuality, having parents push kids to a separate service dedicated to them would be the most ideal.  

    It's like, not long ago there was a story about porn sites having non-sexual game content on there, but if a kid is going there for their main source of video game watching, it's not the fault of the site when they see something wrong, and the parents should take all of the responsibility.
    But that is precisely how these folks over at google and of course YouTube think. Diversity is awesome, which apparently includes age diversity as well? lol.

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