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Google Reveals Stadia Launch Line Up and 2019 Games - MMORPG.com

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  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 6,388
    Iselin said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Xoph said:
    Who would actually use Stadia? Who is their target audience? This just seems like a big failure waiting to happen.
    I think that's the crux of it. Maybe it's not for "gamers" but for regular people who sometimes want to play something. Additionally, aren't there issues with streaming these types of games or have those been corrected?
    Why not buy PS or Xbox then? Or even Switch.
    Again, how much is the cost?

    If one already has a pc and wants to try some video games, and a streaming service is only a few dollars per month then why would one want to buy a console?

    But it really goes back to "who" is this for. Would somone who doesn't normally play video games even know about these games? Or maybe it's for people who are just curious or see one game and want to play it and would rather not spend money buying them. 

    Too many questions.
    You guys are forgetting the most important bit: Chromebooks as well as some Android tablets and the Pixel 2, 3 or 4 will let you play RDR2 and Cyberpunk 2077 using Stadia.

    The system requirements are as low as they can possibly get. If you can watch video streams with your rig you can play any cutting edge PC game they offer.
    Aha. Thank you. This is most likely it.
  • achesomaachesoma Member UncommonPosts: 1,099
    WTF is a "Stadia?" Sounds like a STD.
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  • CelciusCelcius Member RarePosts: 1,603
    edited November 2019






    Sovrath said:





    F2Plague said:



    Stadia Advertisement:



    PLAY ANY GAME YOU WANT ANY TIME WITH NO DOWNLOADS!







    Reality:



    Pick from this mediocre list.









    Mediocre?





    There are some good games on that list! I "just" purchased Odyssey and wow! I'm having a blast. Not perfect (so much crap on the screen trying to give you info) but it's really fun!













    you can still call it mediocre, small list, not many of these games was good, plus chances are if was good I already played so why bother?


    Not many of those games are good? Just because they aren't brand new doesn't mean they aren't good. Red Dead 2? Odyssey? Destiny 2? MK11? I would say about 3/4ths of this list are really great games. It definitely is small though. 

    My concern is, they are going with multiple fighting games, if there's any input lag at all those are going to be the titles you notice it the most in. 



    Destiny 2 and MK 11 without cross platform play that rely heavily on multiplayer for the ability to play the games. (Not even cross platform with Steam...lol, so enjoy playing with the 3 other people that have Stadia) Oh and not to mention outside Destiny 2 you have to purchase all the games for the normal, full price...
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 13,300
    achesoma said:
    WTF is a "Stadia?" Sounds like a STD.
    Google it.

    Sorry, couldn't resist :)
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  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,007

    Iselin said:


    Sovrath said:


    Iselin said:


    Sovrath said:


    Gorwe said:


    Sovrath said:


    Xoph said:

    Who would actually use Stadia? Who is their target audience? This just seems like a big failure waiting to happen.


    I think that's the crux of it. Maybe it's not for "gamers" but for regular people who sometimes want to play something. Additionally, aren't there issues with streaming these types of games or have those been corrected?


    Why not buy PS or Xbox then? Or even Switch.


    Again, how much is the cost?

    If one already has a pc and wants to try some video games, and a streaming service is only a few dollars per month then why would one want to buy a console?

    But it really goes back to "who" is this for. Would somone who doesn't normally play video games even know about these games? Or maybe it's for people who are just curious or see one game and want to play it and would rather not spend money buying them. 

    Too many questions.


    You guys are forgetting the most important bit: Chromebooks as well as some Android tablets and the Pixel 2, 3 or 4 will let you play RDR2 and Cyberpunk 2077 using Stadia.

    The system requirements are as low as they can possibly get. If you can watch video streams with your rig you can play any cutting edge PC game they offer.


    Then I would say "that's the audience." People who are very casual, who don't want to buy a console, who are curious about this game or that, who don't need "50 games" on a service.


    There are working poor and students out there for whom a console + TV would be a luxury but the cheapest laptop they can get their hands on is a necessity. The students with Chromebooks especially could be a big part of their market and if they adopt it, it'll be the next cool thing.




    I don't know, when I was a poor student I hardly had time to play, and I would even have less have money to spend on a sub, but when I was working and then going to college still I had my end of the night playing aion.

    also take note a "cheap" laptop here where I live would cost well over thousand, with by the time I could build a decent PC to run some games, mostly snes emulator and then psx emulator
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  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,677
    edited November 2019
    Not a great list but some good games. BL3 was supposed to be a launch title but I guess it got delayed. More games will come.

    I'm looking forward to trying it. Microsoft's XCloud is really close based on my testing. I expect Google to be a touch better.
  • learis1learis1 Member UncommonPosts: 126
    Its kind of a huge deal where once you needed a +1000 dollar gaming rig, you can now play on a chromebook or tablet. Im very curious to see how stadia handles lag sensitive games like mortal kombat and its other fighting games. Even dropping 1 frame in those is significant.

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  • SeelinnikoiSeelinnikoi Member RarePosts: 1,348
    Fun! Not only you pay full price for the games, but you are actually only renting them!

    Gamers are so gullible.
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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 6,398
    I mean, if those were the exact games you wanted, it could be a good deal. Otherwise no.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,667
    Fun! Not only you pay full price for the games, but you are actually only renting them!

    Gamers are so gullible.
    According to them you don' pay full price for the games. You pay 9.99 per month. For some reason there is also a $69 controller. Does one "need" that controller to play these games?

    There seems to be a "Stadia Pro" service but the article I read said that if people didn't want that they could wait fo the service to "roll around" on tables/pc's later in 2020.

    So, where are you getting that?



  • CelciusCelcius Member RarePosts: 1,603
    edited November 2019
    learis1 said:
    Its kind of a huge deal where once you needed a +1000 dollar gaming rig, you can now play on a chromebook or tablet. Im very curious to see how stadia handles lag sensitive games like mortal kombat and its other fighting games. Even dropping 1 frame in those is significant.

    It is not about framerate, the framerate will be fine. It is more about input lag. It will be more like you are lagging in an MMO, but all the time. The reality is most people have played / can run these games just fine. You can get all these games already for cheaper on other platforms (with the exception of Destiny 2 obviously). The casual gamer (Who stadia is targeting) only cares about price, not about whether a game runs at 4k 60 fps or not.
    learis1
  • cmacqcmacq Member UncommonPosts: 249
    Sovrath said:
    Fun! Not only you pay full price for the games, but you are actually only renting them!

    Gamers are so gullible.
    According to them you don' pay full price for the games. You pay 9.99 per month. For some reason there is also a $69 controller. Does one "need" that controller to play these games?

    There seems to be a "Stadia Pro" service but the article I read said that if people didn't want that they could wait fo the service to "roll around" on tables/pc's later in 2020.

    So, where are you getting that?
    Check out their actual service. You get 1 game (D2) you can play when it launches for $9.95 a month. You have to buy the other titles they are offering @ full price. How is that a deal?
  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,677
    Celcius said:
    learis1 said:
    Its kind of a huge deal where once you needed a +1000 dollar gaming rig, you can now play on a chromebook or tablet. Im very curious to see how stadia handles lag sensitive games like mortal kombat and its other fighting games. Even dropping 1 frame in those is significant.

    It is not about framerate, the framerate will be fine. It is more about input lag. It will be more like you are lagging in an MMO, but all the time. The reality is most people have played / can run these games just fine. You can get all these games already for cheaper on other platforms (with the exception of Destiny 2 obviously). The casual gamer (Who stadia is targeting) only cares about price, not about whether a game runs at 4k 60 fps or not.
    If it matches the input lag of XCloud then I think it will be great. I'm expecting better though.
    alkarionlog
  • VexiusxVexiusx Member UncommonPosts: 205
    Yikes thats all dated games at this point...... and very small list of games.
  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 8,429
    The only folks I would see using this are people with really old laptops and no console.
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  • UtinniUtinni Member EpicPosts: 1,419
    I thought everyone here knew that Stadia was not targeted at life-long PC gamers? 
  • atonicoatonico Member UncommonPosts: 14
    edited November 2019

    Iselin said:


    Sovrath said:


    Gorwe said:


    Sovrath said:


    Xoph said:

    Who would actually use Stadia? Who is their target audience? This just seems like a big failure waiting to happen.


    I think that's the crux of it. Maybe it's not for "gamers" but for regular people who sometimes want to play something. Additionally, aren't there issues with streaming these types of games or have those been corrected?


    Why not buy PS or Xbox then? Or even Switch.


    Again, how much is the cost?

    If one already has a pc and wants to try some video games, and a streaming service is only a few dollars per month then why would one want to buy a console?

    But it really goes back to "who" is this for. Would somone who doesn't normally play video games even know about these games? Or maybe it's for people who are just curious or see one game and want to play it and would rather not spend money buying them. 

    Too many questions.


    You guys are forgetting the most important bit: Chromebooks as well as some Android tablets and the Pixel 2, 3 or 4 will let you play RDR2 and Cyberpunk 2077 using Stadia.

    The system requirements are as low as they can possibly get. If you can watch video streams with your rig you can play any cutting edge PC game they offer.



    That could the a target audience, but the network requirements for Stadia are 20Mb/s (minimum), while a video stream can be watched at 500kb/s.
    Would be useful for home setup, but would not work outside (at least until 5G, which is still an unknown trend due to health risks).
  • frostymugfrostymug Member RarePosts: 632
    Stadia mostly feels like a solution in need of a problem. 

    It used to be interesting when Google did these kind of things. Now it is likely just another thing to half bake and leave to hang dry. 

    Would have been a nice complementary service to go with Google Fiber, but... half baked and hung to dry. Now it has to run on someone else's network in most cases and those someones are prone to try to throttle any streaming services they do not own or profit from themselves. Most of those someones in the US also like data caps.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 21,455
    Iselin said:
    Sovrath said:
    Iselin said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Xoph said:
    Who would actually use Stadia? Who is their target audience? This just seems like a big failure waiting to happen.
    I think that's the crux of it. Maybe it's not for "gamers" but for regular people who sometimes want to play something. Additionally, aren't there issues with streaming these types of games or have those been corrected?
    Why not buy PS or Xbox then? Or even Switch.
    Again, how much is the cost?

    If one already has a pc and wants to try some video games, and a streaming service is only a few dollars per month then why would one want to buy a console?

    But it really goes back to "who" is this for. Would somone who doesn't normally play video games even know about these games? Or maybe it's for people who are just curious or see one game and want to play it and would rather not spend money buying them. 

    Too many questions.
    You guys are forgetting the most important bit: Chromebooks as well as some Android tablets and the Pixel 2, 3 or 4 will let you play RDR2 and Cyberpunk 2077 using Stadia.

    The system requirements are as low as they can possibly get. If you can watch video streams with your rig you can play any cutting edge PC game they offer.
    Then I would say "that's the audience." People who are very casual, who don't want to buy a console, who are curious about this game or that, who don't need "50 games" on a service.
    There are working poor and students out there for whom a console + TV would be a luxury but the cheapest laptop they can get their hands on is a necessity. The students with Chromebooks especially could be a big part of their market and if they adopt it, it'll be the next cool thing.
    For the price difference of paying for Stadia and a better Internet connection, you could likely just get a gaming desktop and have a far superior gaming experience with a lot more game options.

    Even if you can get a game to display on a tablet, why would you?  Does your tablet have a keyboard and mouse?  Does it even have as many buttons as a controller?  For a cheap laptop, I could kind of understand it, as you have a keyboard and can plug in a mouse.
    Iselin
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 21,455
    achesoma said:
    WTF is a "Stadia?" Sounds like a STD.
    You're pretty close, actually.  It's Google's version of gaming on a thin client.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 21,455
    Fun! Not only you pay full price for the games, but you are actually only renting them!

    Gamers are so gullible.
    This doesn't prove that gamers are gullible unless they actually buy it.  Sometimes markets work how you'd hope in theory and bad products get broadly ignored.  That's how it worked for OnLive, for example.  Or, famously, the Ford Edsel.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 13,300
    Quizzical said:
    Iselin said:
    Sovrath said:
    Iselin said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Xoph said:
    Who would actually use Stadia? Who is their target audience? This just seems like a big failure waiting to happen.
    I think that's the crux of it. Maybe it's not for "gamers" but for regular people who sometimes want to play something. Additionally, aren't there issues with streaming these types of games or have those been corrected?
    Why not buy PS or Xbox then? Or even Switch.
    Again, how much is the cost?

    If one already has a pc and wants to try some video games, and a streaming service is only a few dollars per month then why would one want to buy a console?

    But it really goes back to "who" is this for. Would somone who doesn't normally play video games even know about these games? Or maybe it's for people who are just curious or see one game and want to play it and would rather not spend money buying them. 

    Too many questions.
    You guys are forgetting the most important bit: Chromebooks as well as some Android tablets and the Pixel 2, 3 or 4 will let you play RDR2 and Cyberpunk 2077 using Stadia.

    The system requirements are as low as they can possibly get. If you can watch video streams with your rig you can play any cutting edge PC game they offer.
    Then I would say "that's the audience." People who are very casual, who don't want to buy a console, who are curious about this game or that, who don't need "50 games" on a service.
    There are working poor and students out there for whom a console + TV would be a luxury but the cheapest laptop they can get their hands on is a necessity. The students with Chromebooks especially could be a big part of their market and if they adopt it, it'll be the next cool thing.
    For the price difference of paying for Stadia and a better Internet connection, you could likely just get a gaming desktop and have a far superior gaming experience with a lot more game options.

    Even if you can get a game to display on a tablet, why would you?  Does your tablet have a keyboard and mouse?  Does it even have as many buttons as a controller?  For a cheap laptop, I could kind of understand it, as you have a keyboard and can plug in a mouse.
    Oh I agree. I think the "play it on Android tablets and even Pixel phones!" is just Google showing off.

    But I know from recent experience with my son and now my daughter in university that a lot of their friends have no TVs - they watch everything on their PCs - but they all have laptops for school and free (or highly subsidized) high speed internet on campus and wifi at home is a priority for them.
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  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member RarePosts: 1,731



    Sovrath said:


    Xoph said:

    Who would actually use Stadia? Who is their target audience? This just seems like a big failure waiting to happen.


    I think that's the crux of it. Maybe it's not for "gamers" but for regular people who sometimes want to play something. Additionally, aren't there issues with streaming these types of games or have those been corrected?


    I wouldn't call corrected, they said the controls would work like it would predicted the way you play the game and then do the move before you did to fix the lag issues, aka its like auto aim, with anyone who know how to play turn off because that thing make you lose headshots


    plus come on, the public its stadia was supose to aim is not really gamers, they could put game like candy crusher and it would be the aim.

    its like the cellphone games, why I would play a single player game online if I can do so offline and without the lag?

    you could call it fix a problem then never existed



    Anyone else thinking their resources would've been better spent creating their own version of Bluestacks/Nox that has no risk of compromising your account cause those are third party program(s) used by many to play almost EVERY popular/ top seller game on the Google play store.

    It also seems like the list of playable games went through some type of quality control standard set by Google. There are no games by specific developers which makes me think that Stadia is just their way of getting into that Steam/Epic/Blizz game selling biz more than providing a new type of service. Wouldn't be surprised to see in a year they say they will give up on streaming service cause it didn't work out but will continue to just sell PC games in the "Stadia" store.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 21,455
    BruceYee said:



    Sovrath said:


    Xoph said:

    Who would actually use Stadia? Who is their target audience? This just seems like a big failure waiting to happen.


    I think that's the crux of it. Maybe it's not for "gamers" but for regular people who sometimes want to play something. Additionally, aren't there issues with streaming these types of games or have those been corrected?


    I wouldn't call corrected, they said the controls would work like it would predicted the way you play the game and then do the move before you did to fix the lag issues, aka its like auto aim, with anyone who know how to play turn off because that thing make you lose headshots


    plus come on, the public its stadia was supose to aim is not really gamers, they could put game like candy crusher and it would be the aim.

    its like the cellphone games, why I would play a single player game online if I can do so offline and without the lag?

    you could call it fix a problem then never existed



    Anyone else thinking their resources would've been better spent creating their own version of Bluestacks/Nox that has no risk of compromising your account cause those are third party program(s) used by many to play almost EVERY popular/ top seller game on the Google play store.

    It also seems like the list of playable games went through some type of quality control standard set by Google. There are no games by specific developers which makes me think that Stadia is just their way of getting into that Steam/Epic/Blizz game selling biz more than providing a new type of service. Wouldn't be surprised to see in a year they say they will give up on streaming service cause it didn't work out but will continue to just sell PC games in the "Stadia" store.
    Google is a big enough company to work on more than one project at a time.  In fact, they're quite capable of simultaneously working on dozens of projects that will all be dead on arrival, and some of which will never even make it to a public launch.
  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,677
    Tiller said:
    The only folks I would see using this are people with really old laptops and no console.
    I have a PS4 , Xbox one X and a gaming PC. I pre-ordered Stadia and am looking forward to it.

     It is more than just another way to play games. Do a little research.

    Not only that.. no more hardware costs.. Ever.
    sschrupp
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