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Camelot Unchained Beta 2 Open Today to Backers - MMORPG.com

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edited September 2019 in News & Features Discussion

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Camelot Unchained's Beta 2 is open to backers today, according to a new roundup from the team.

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  • TheJodaTheJoda Member UncommonPosts: 605
    Is this game launching this decade? I've been a backer since day 1, but three blind turtles can move at a faster development pace.
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  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 3,335
    edited September 2019
    Thupli said:
    Nce to see the words Beta Test!

    They are calling it "beta" but it is where most other games call alpha, even pre-alpha in some cases. My bet is it is still 2 years away from any resemblance of a fully functional game.
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Viper482 said:
    Thupli said:
    Nce to see the words Beta Test!

    They are calling it "beta" but it is where most other games call alpha, even pre-alpha in some cases. My bet is it is still 2 years away from any resemblance of a fully functional game.
    i would rather the game be in Beta for 2 years than they do the current industry standard of releasing it unfinished etc. Looking at Anthem here, but its not the only example is it. :/
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    DMKano said:
    Viper482 said:
    Thupli said:
    Nce to see the words Beta Test!

    They are calling it "beta" but it is where most other games call alpha, even pre-alpha in some cases. My bet is it is still 2 years away from any resemblance of a fully functional game.

    It's pretty damn questionable if they ever get to resemblance of a fully functional game period.
    If they had stated it was an Alpha build rather than a Beta then i would likely agree with you, but that they are stating the game is in Beta means that while the game is unfinished, it is a functional game, the game becoming 'fully' functional is afaik something that is achieved during Beta as the games functionality undergoes testing/modification. If they had released the game with a cash shop and were using Beta status as a shield to divert criticism, that would be something else. ;)
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  • WarWitchWarWitch Member UncommonPosts: 320
    Rember the old lil mage box fighting game they made long ago? They were hungry then and worked hard DAOC. 


    Now they are just phat and don't need to rush into anything.
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  • ArteriusArterius Member EpicPosts: 2,855

    Phry said:


    DMKano said:


    Viper482 said:


    Thupli said:

    Nce to see the words Beta Test!





    They are calling it "beta" but it is where most other games call alpha, even pre-alpha in some cases. My bet is it is still 2 years away from any resemblance of a fully functional game.



    It's pretty damn questionable if they ever get to resemblance of a fully functional game period.


    If they had stated it was an Alpha build rather than a Beta then i would likely agree with you, but that they are stating the game is in Beta means that while the game is unfinished, it is a functional game, the game becoming 'fully' functional is afaik something that is achieved during Beta as the games functionality undergoes testing/modification. If they had released the game with a cash shop and were using Beta status as a shield to divert criticism, that would be something else. ;)



    As someone who plays in the tests I can tell you that the game is not fully functional. Though I have missed a month due to personal reasons so they could have added a lot in that time
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  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,318
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  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 3,335
    Phry said:
    Viper482 said:
    Thupli said:
    Nce to see the words Beta Test!

    They are calling it "beta" but it is where most other games call alpha, even pre-alpha in some cases. My bet is it is still 2 years away from any resemblance of a fully functional game.
    i would rather the game be in Beta for 2 years than they do the current industry standard of releasing it unfinished etc. Looking at Anthem here, but its not the only example is it. :/

    Okay....you and pretty much every other gamer. I do not have an issue with how long it is taking...I have an issue with them shining a turd and telling me it's a diamond.
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  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 3,335
    Phry said:
    DMKano said:
    Viper482 said:
    Thupli said:
    Nce to see the words Beta Test!

    They are calling it "beta" but it is where most other games call alpha, even pre-alpha in some cases. My bet is it is still 2 years away from any resemblance of a fully functional game.

    It's pretty damn questionable if they ever get to resemblance of a fully functional game period.
    If they had stated it was an Alpha build rather than a Beta then i would likely agree with you, but that they are stating the game is in Beta means that while the game is unfinished, it is a functional game, the game becoming 'fully' functional is afaik something that is achieved during Beta as the games functionality undergoes testing/modification. If they had released the game with a cash shop and were using Beta status as a shield to divert criticism, that would be something else. ;)
    So because they are calling it beta you believe it? This is exactly my point, they are calling it something it is not. Half of this game is still in concept mode, that is not beta.
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Viper482 said:
    Phry said:
    DMKano said:
    Viper482 said:
    Thupli said:
    Nce to see the words Beta Test!

    They are calling it "beta" but it is where most other games call alpha, even pre-alpha in some cases. My bet is it is still 2 years away from any resemblance of a fully functional game.

    It's pretty damn questionable if they ever get to resemblance of a fully functional game period.
    If they had stated it was an Alpha build rather than a Beta then i would likely agree with you, but that they are stating the game is in Beta means that while the game is unfinished, it is a functional game, the game becoming 'fully' functional is afaik something that is achieved during Beta as the games functionality undergoes testing/modification. If they had released the game with a cash shop and were using Beta status as a shield to divert criticism, that would be something else. ;)
    So because they are calling it beta you believe it? This is exactly my point, they are calling it something it is not. Half of this game is still in concept mode, that is not beta.
    I am not in the Beta, so i will have to take your word on that, if half the game really is in concept only, then that isn't a real 'beta' its alpha, beta should mean the game is relatively complete and that all that is left is ensuring features work as intended and adjusting/fixing whatever breaks. :/
    Viper482
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 37,540
    Point of order, I believe the game's development phase is still officially Beta One, they are just inviting those who backed at the beta two level to come help test. 

    Good reason for this, many of the alpha and beta one testers are long past burned out so they need to open testing up to additional waves to get enough folks to work with.


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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 4,244
    Kyleran said:
    Point of order, I believe the game's development phase is still officially Beta One, they are just inviting those who backed at the beta two level to come help test. 

    Good reason for this, many of the alpha and beta one testers are long past burned out so they need to open testing up to additional waves to get enough folks to work with.


    Quoted for truth. I can't even be arsed to download the new installer.

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    It is just huge resource waste....'

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  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,437
    The most liberal and lax use of the term "beta" I've seen in MMORPG development.  Come on developers, we know it must be embarrassing and discouraging to be this many years behind, but you don't have to be dishonest with us about the state of the game.  It's insulting.
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  • RobokappRobokapp Member RarePosts: 6,230
    The most liberal and lax use of the term "beta" I've seen in MMORPG development.  Come on developers, we know it must be embarrassing and discouraging to be this many years behind, but you don't have to be dishonest with us about the state of the game.  It's insulting.
    so is it an actual beta then?

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  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 3,335
    Robokapp said:
    The most liberal and lax use of the term "beta" I've seen in MMORPG development.  Come on developers, we know it must be embarrassing and discouraging to be this many years behind, but you don't have to be dishonest with us about the state of the game.  It's insulting.
    so is it an actual beta then?

    They are calling it beta but it is just alpha in disguise. They missed several beta dates and people were getting pissed so they just said screw it and called where they are now beta.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 37,540
    Viper482 said:
    Robokapp said:
    The most liberal and lax use of the term "beta" I've seen in MMORPG development.  Come on developers, we know it must be embarrassing and discouraging to be this many years behind, but you don't have to be dishonest with us about the state of the game.  It's insulting.
    so is it an actual beta then?

    They are calling it beta but it is just alpha in disguise. They missed several beta dates and people were getting pissed so they just said screw it and called where they are now beta.
    Beta 1 appears to be never ending, it started at the end of July 2018 and keeps rolling and rolling. ..

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  • ElthiumElthium Member UncommonPosts: 85
    I've had the same client on my computer for over 3 years. I really couldn't be bothered updating it. I guess I'll have to wait until a "playable" version is available. Too frustrating otherwise.
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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 10,311
    It’s getting harder and harder to believe people here.

    So, what features are still in the concept phase and not in the game?

    What’s missing that would make it a “real beta”?
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 8,201
    Beta? I didn't know games made it past alpha anymore.
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  • RockardRockard Member UncommonPosts: 206
    edited September 2019
    Will there be a beta 3 and 4?
    I know this is old school beta but what does that amounts to in relation to a modern beta?
    Given the state of the game based on the little info and media non backers have access to,it will take up to and even beyond old school beta 6 before CU is close to what is nowadays perceived as almost completed.Which is modern beta aka nice graphics even nicer bugs extra nice early access packs.The way I see it there definitely should be a gamma after the beta.To top it off add in a delta later.

    "What with all the other games and their betas this and that.Here we got deltas.Old school"

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 37,540
    edited September 2019
    bcbully said:
    It’s getting harder and harder to believe people here.

    So, what features are still in the concept phase and not in the game?

    What’s missing that would make it a “real beta”?
    Always available beta test environment for starters..... it's been over six years in Dev and 14 months of Beta "One" after all.

    CF, SC, DU are all in Alpha and provide a persistent test environment.


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  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,318
    edited September 2019
    Rhoklaw said:
    I loved DAoC and I love Mark Jacobs, but his announcement of a new Beta Testing Phase was like someone had to pull his teeth for him to even say it. Didn't seem very excited at all about it, lol.

    Makes me wonder if Paul Barnett could ever been seen marketing again...

    Marketing is not developing, that is why it is called marketing. This is why you are seeing a laid back doesn't give 2 f's Mark Jacobs eating cakes instead of a EA raving crazy man. IMHO Pual Barnett did his job well.... The core failure of Warhammer Online was design choices and pvp types. THe game would've done so much better with a centralized war zones then small hot points. Like 3 zones , 2 faction war zone and 1 major control zone in the middle.  So you can push pull all day in each faction to get the control of the central zone. THen have micro zones for flanking 
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  • druezdruez Member UncommonPosts: 113
    edited September 2019
    This game is a beta if you use the term beta as it was used 20 years ago. People are used to companies releasing games in a pre-release open beta which really means a demo with bugs.

    CU is in an old school beta phase. Very similar to what DAOC was in its early phases. I remember testing DAOC, where you could just run around the capital and the few zones outside and fought basic mobs.

    Heck DAOC was released with entire zones with just some placeholder stuff, not really fleshed out.

    To me this game is probably 1 to 2 years from release. Depending how fast they can create the rest of the classes and populate the world with content.

    The key systems are in the game and are working.

    CU has been upfront about the delays the whole time. They post about it every week. Any backer has complete access to MJ and the team.

    I wish they were moving faster. MJ is one of the founders of modern MMO's. I doubt he is going to quit on this or let it fail. This is pretty much his magus opus to MMO"s. I think this is what he will want to be remember for when its all said and done.

    I believe in the tech behind the scenes, which is the hardest part to design/create. The ability system, the physics engine, the ability to have 1000+ NPC's on a screen at one time. It is all working. They are truly building an MMO that allows for large scale battles with destruction and building.

    Will it be worth the wait, I hope so. But, the team is busting their arse. They aren't trying to mislead people.

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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    edited September 2019
    I remember MJ pretty recently saying that - based on team inputs - the game is launching this year. If so then "beta 2" must - pretty much - be the game release version.

    Have I have missed an announcement that 2019 is is no longer planned?


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