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WoW Classic ( EU ) Servers, After First Month ..

IceAgeIceAge Member RarePosts: 2,222
edited September 29 in World of Warcraft




For German, French, Spanish and Russia : https://imgur.com/a/XEFEUfg

That's pretty impressive after the first "honey" month. 

On other News, seems Blizzard is interested about when do players think Phase 2 should release : https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/please-dont-put-phase-2-to-early/89338/62

So, do you still play Classic?

PS: Taken like 15 mins ago and so, I believe this were even more ..full 2 hours ago ( prime time for EU ).

EDIT: Well, anyone can check in real-time the status of servers, both EU/US and even Korean and Taiwan  - https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/game/status/classic-eu -

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  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 2,061
    Yes, its actually better than I recalled, I think because of all the crap that's been released over the last decade.  It amazes me how they got so many things right the first time and so long ago. Classic is more complete than any game since, no one has been able to get even close.
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  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,513
    It's doing good, but a lot of people are coming back to BFA now.
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  • UtinniUtinni Member RarePosts: 996
    I play once a week for raid, sometimes twice for ony lockouts. Will play more when content is added.
    Thane
  • AxxarAxxar Member UncommonPosts: 82
    We need a lot more Realms to distribute players across so Blizzard can get rid of the horrible layering. This is World of WarCraft not Worlds of WarCraft. Enough with the parallel dimensions already. What’s the point of defending Orgrimmar when the Orgrimmar Alliance is attacking is hidden in a pocket dimension?
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  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 6,375
    It is heartening to see how well this release of an old WoW has been. In more ways then one can imagine this has perhaps opened the eyes of other developers and made them realise exactly what was missing in the later games and why they have failed.
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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 6,541
    OhhPaigey said:
    It's doing good, but a lot of people are coming back to BFA now.
    Ohh Paigey
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 11,753
    edited September 28
    cheyane said:
    It is heartening to see how well this release of an old WoW has been. In more ways then one can imagine this has perhaps opened the eyes of other developers and made them realise exactly what was missing in the later games and why they have failed.
    Some developers have even said as much, but I don't believe it. Classic would have to outsell current WoW for them to take a new direction. What is going to happen is that they will just continue to sell both products to the different demographics who like them.

    Hey more importantly have you just changed your avatar, such a nuisance, I hate having to get used to new ones? Try to stick with that one. :D

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  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 6,375
    edited September 28
    Scot said:
    cheyane said:
    It is heartening to see how well this release of an old WoW has been. In more ways then one can imagine this has perhaps opened the eyes of other developers and made them realise exactly what was missing in the later games and why they have failed.
    Some developers have even said as much, but I don't believe it. Classic would have to outsell current WoW for them to take a new direction. What is going to happen is that they will just continue to sell both products to the different demographics who like them.

    Hey more importantly have you just changed your avatar, such a nuisance, I hate having to get used to new ones? Try to stick with that one. :D
    Changed it because I am playing Classic WoW and that is my Orc Warlock. I had the Fallen Earth one before but as you might know that game is shutting down.
    Scot
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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,871
    Scot said:
    cheyane said:
    It is heartening to see how well this release of an old WoW has been. In more ways then one can imagine this has perhaps opened the eyes of other developers and made them realise exactly what was missing in the later games and why they have failed.
    Some developers have even said as much, but I don't believe it. Classic would have to outsell current WoW for them to take a new direction. What is going to happen is that they will just continue to sell both products to the different demographics who like them.

    Hey more importantly have you just changed your avatar, such a nuisance, I hate having to get used to new ones? Try to stick with that one. :D
    More people logged into Classic in first month than into BFA
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  • IceAgeIceAge Member RarePosts: 2,222
    Scorchien said:
    Scot said:
    cheyane said:
    It is heartening to see how well this release of an old WoW has been. In more ways then one can imagine this has perhaps opened the eyes of other developers and made them realise exactly what was missing in the later games and why they have failed.
    Some developers have even said as much, but I don't believe it. Classic would have to outsell current WoW for them to take a new direction. What is going to happen is that they will just continue to sell both products to the different demographics who like them.

    Hey more importantly have you just changed your avatar, such a nuisance, I hate having to get used to new ones? Try to stick with that one. :D
    More people logged into Classic in first month than into BFA
    BfA is pretty dead since several months ago, and only saw some spikes when they released main..Patches. 

    And I strongly believe that Classic has more Active players then BfA at this moment, even after the first month.

    We shall see if Blizzard has learned something with the fail of BfA, at this year Blizzcon, when they will announce the next expansion. IF the next x-pac will be a failure like BfA, then .. people were right. The only thing who can kill WoW is...WoW ( Classic ).
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,177
    edited September 28
    OP this is not at all in line what population tracking sites reporting - like icy veins:

    Look at their report from Sep 19th:

    https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/45838-wow-classic-population-report-september-19th/

    "It looks like the population of WoW Classic realms is decreasing, as players stop playing the game before hitting max level. Many servers saw a decrease in population in all regions. Free Character Moves have just been announced to help with the situation."







    So I think your point in time single data point is not really showing the true picture at al..


    IMO - if you are going to show trends - at least use sites that actually track population trends on a daily basis and do weekly reports since launch - so that you can get an accurate picture.
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,177
    edited September 28
    IceAge said:



    And I strongly believe that Classic has more Active players then BfA at this moment, even after the first month.




    Strong belief doesn't mean it's remotely true.

    There are people who strongly believe that the earth is flat - and they couldn't be more wrong.

    So in this case - without actual hard data - strong belief means nothing.
    MikehaKyleran
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,830
    DMKano said:
    OP this is not at all in line what population tracking sites reporting - like icy veins:

    Look at their report from Sep 19th:

    https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/45838-wow-classic-population-report-september-19th/

    "It looks like the population of WoW Classic realms is decreasing, as players stop playing the game before hitting max level. Many servers saw a decrease in population in all regions. Free Character Moves have just been announced to help with the situation."







    So I think your point in time single data point is not really showing the true picture at al..


    IMO - if you are going to show trends - at least use sites that actually track population trends on a daily basis and do weekly reports since launch - so that you can get an accurate picture.
    Lololol yeah there's CLEARLY no bias in their data gathering when they state outright false things like the transfers being about low population.  They were given out because of the exact opposite reason.  They also added additional servers which are the less populated ones.  

    The fact that these servers are still this populated is a big deal.  Especially for all the people who claimed that "nobody wants classic".  "There's only 15 out of 20 full servers, DeAd gAmE".  Meanwhile the population of WoW classic still trumps most games released in the last 10 years.  
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,177
    DMKano said:
    OP this is not at all in line what population tracking sites reporting - like icy veins:

    Look at their report from Sep 19th:

    https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/45838-wow-classic-population-report-september-19th/

    "It looks like the population of WoW Classic realms is decreasing, as players stop playing the game before hitting max level. Many servers saw a decrease in population in all regions. Free Character Moves have just been announced to help with the situation."







    So I think your point in time single data point is not really showing the true picture at al..


    IMO - if you are going to show trends - at least use sites that actually track population trends on a daily basis and do weekly reports since launch - so that you can get an accurate picture.
    Lololol yeah there's CLEARLY no bias in their data gathering when they state outright false things like the transfers being about low population.  They were given out because of the exact opposite reason.  They also added additional servers which are the less populated ones.  

    The fact that these servers are still this populated is a big deal.  Especially for all the people who claimed that "nobody wants classic".  "There's only 15 out of 20 full servers, DeAd gAmE".  Meanwhile the population of WoW classic still trumps most games released in the last 10 years.  


    So icy-veins is biased against WoW.... how?

    and more importantly why?

    You do realize is that the entire site is built on and around wow - they survive because of WoW - why would they be conspiring against the game that's keeping them alive?

    hello?
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,905
    I think a lot of you are continuing to underestimate just how much of the Classic population is totally independent from the BfA pop.

    I'm sure Classic has some players who were actively playing BfA in August and switched over to Classic for most or all of their WOW time but the vast majority is players who were not playing BfA and haven't played WOW for a while if ever.

    I don't have hard numbers but then neither do any of you. All you have is hints that you're interpreting to suit your bias - screen shots, twitch numbers, Classic addon downloads, etc. Me? I'm basing mine from in game chat and WOW Classic reddit posts both of which lead me to believe that the Classic population is very separate and distinct from the BfA pop.

     
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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,830
    edited September 28
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    OP this is not at all in line what population tracking sites reporting - like icy veins:

    Look at their report from Sep 19th:

    https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/45838-wow-classic-population-report-september-19th/

    "It looks like the population of WoW Classic realms is decreasing, as players stop playing the game before hitting max level. Many servers saw a decrease in population in all regions. Free Character Moves have just been announced to help with the situation."







    So I think your point in time single data point is not really showing the true picture at al..


    IMO - if you are going to show trends - at least use sites that actually track population trends on a daily basis and do weekly reports since launch - so that you can get an accurate picture.
    Lololol yeah there's CLEARLY no bias in their data gathering when they state outright false things like the transfers being about low population.  They were given out because of the exact opposite reason.  They also added additional servers which are the less populated ones.  

    The fact that these servers are still this populated is a big deal.  Especially for all the people who claimed that "nobody wants classic".  "There's only 15 out of 20 full servers, DeAd gAmE".  Meanwhile the population of WoW classic still trumps most games released in the last 10 years.  


    So icy-veins is biased against WoW.... how?

    and more importantly why?

    You do realize is that the entire site is built on and around wow - they survive because of WoW - why would they be conspiring against the game that's keeping them alive?

    hello?
    You tell me.  Why are they outright lying about server transfers?  

    Edit: Nevermind, I misread it.  In either case though, you still ignore the main point...WoW classic is more successful than most games released in the last 10 years, even with the usual dropoff.
  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,177
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    OP this is not at all in line what population tracking sites reporting - like icy veins:

    Look at their report from Sep 19th:

    https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/45838-wow-classic-population-report-september-19th/

    "It looks like the population of WoW Classic realms is decreasing, as players stop playing the game before hitting max level. Many servers saw a decrease in population in all regions. Free Character Moves have just been announced to help with the situation."







    So I think your point in time single data point is not really showing the true picture at al..


    IMO - if you are going to show trends - at least use sites that actually track population trends on a daily basis and do weekly reports since launch - so that you can get an accurate picture.
    Lololol yeah there's CLEARLY no bias in their data gathering when they state outright false things like the transfers being about low population.  They were given out because of the exact opposite reason.  They also added additional servers which are the less populated ones.  

    The fact that these servers are still this populated is a big deal.  Especially for all the people who claimed that "nobody wants classic".  "There's only 15 out of 20 full servers, DeAd gAmE".  Meanwhile the population of WoW classic still trumps most games released in the last 10 years.  


    So icy-veins is biased against WoW.... how?

    and more importantly why?

    You do realize is that the entire site is built on and around wow - they survive because of WoW - why would they be conspiring against the game that's keeping them alive?

    hello?
    You tell me.  Why are they outright lying about server transfers?  

    Edit: Nevermind, I misread it.  In either case though, you still ignore the main point...WoW classic is more successful than most games released in the last 10 years, even with the usual dropoff.

    Yep you misread the server transfer info.

    As far as your assessment that wow classics is more successful than most games in the last 10 years?

    Maybe - as we dont know the actual population numbers. 

    It's not more successful than WoW was in 2009, also are we talking population or profits to determine success?

    Some F2P cash shop games like Neverwinter nights online was making 7million per week for the first 2 months.

    Rift made $100 million in thr first 6 months post launch.

    Etc..

    So depending on what criteria you are looking at - money made vs population- and a 10 year time period it's not so clear.

    Also you said games not mmorpgs - this would include Fortnite, Minecraft that absolutely crush WoW in terms of playerbase and profits.

    like I said before - WoW classic is successful- but to what extent is not known. 

    Also it has been declining since launch- which is normal and will continue to decline which is again expected. 





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  • jdlamson75jdlamson75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,010
    OhhPaigey said:
    It's doing good, but a lot of people are coming back to BFA now.
    Source?
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  • Jamar870Jamar870 Member UncommonPosts: 362
    edited September 28
    I think those that stopped before hitting the level cap maybe waiting for phase 2 content drop. Also for some like warlock and paladin, your high end mount is locked behind phase 2 content if I understand from what's been said in ingame chat.
  • XodicXodic Member EpicPosts: 984
    It's a futile attempt to use one month of server population as a metric to suggest anything other than initial popularity. Have the developers hinted at what their life cycle plan is for classic WoW? There's clearly a desire for classic design, but without a planned future then a population decline is guaranteed. Unless they plan to release some sort of alternate content that are bound by a classic design philosophy, then these servers ultimately have a beginning, middle, and end.
  • IceAgeIceAge Member RarePosts: 2,222
    edited September 28
    DMKano said:
    OP this is not at all in line what population tracking sites reporting - like icy veins:

    Look at their report from Sep 19th:

    https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/45838-wow-classic-population-report-september-19th/

    "It looks like the population of WoW Classic realms is decreasing, as players stop playing the game before hitting max level. Many servers saw a decrease in population in all regions. Free Character Moves have just been announced to help with the situation."







    So I think your point in time single data point is not really showing the true picture at al..


    IMO - if you are going to show trends - at least use sites that actually track population trends on a daily basis and do weekly reports since launch - so that you can get an accurate picture.
    Thanks for reporting. That's from 19' September which before then we saw a Free character transfer and another one which happened on 20 September.

    Based on this and my yesterday screen's , can we safely say that .. WoW Classic actually got more players? I mean, if we compare the ones from 19th with mine from 28th ( which btw, we are not in the "honey" month anymore ) , there seems to clearly be more packed servers, right? :)

    But ..let's leave that be. 

    Now, why don't you explain to me, how we should of seen massive drops in players in the first 2-3 weeks, or after the first month, which ... didn't happen?

    Why didn't that happened, Kano? 

    In before : "..it will in few months from now" , I personally know it will. Anything..else?
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  • IceAgeIceAge Member RarePosts: 2,222
    edited September 28
    DMKano said:
    IceAge said:



    And I strongly believe that Classic has more Active players then BfA at this moment, even after the first month.




    Strong belief doesn't mean it's remotely true.

    There are people who strongly believe that the earth is flat - and they couldn't be more wrong.

    So in this case - without actual hard data - strong belief means nothing.
    You .. mean I did ..exactly what you did ( ..or you keep doing it ) ?

    At least I said "And I strongly believe .. " and didn't come up with "twitch numbers" ( lol ) to prove my point.

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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,177
    edited September 28
    IceAge said:
    DMKano said:
    IceAge said:



    And I strongly believe that Classic has more Active players then BfA at this moment, even after the first month.




    Strong belief doesn't mean it's remotely true.

    There are people who strongly believe that the earth is flat - and they couldn't be more wrong.

    So in this case - without actual hard data - strong belief means nothing.
    You .. mean I did ..exactly what you did ( ..or you keep doing it ) ?

    At least I said "And I strongly believe .. " and didn't come up with "twitch numbers" ( lol ) to prove my point.


    I am showing real data - you are showing "belief" and 1 single data point - one single screenshot from 1 single day.

    The icy veins site - looks at high, medium an low for each server for each day and tracks all that - so their data is a lot more accurate than just your single screenshot in terms of showing trends.



    I didn't "come up" with twitch numbers either - that would mean I made up twitch numbers.

    I showed precise twitch numbers from a site that tracks twitch stats- here I'll do it again:







    There you go - last 2 weeks of twitch stats for WoW - as you see the data is 100% real and not made up.

    See for yourself

    https://sullygnome.com/game/World_of_Warcraft/14/summary


    Hours watched - down by 47%, broadcast down by 39%, channels down by 39% etc...

    None of that is "made up", sorry - what was made up is when you said that I somehow used this twitch data to say that's player numbers - which I never did (and I quoted and highlighted that in the other thread as proof)

    But I am sure you are going to fabricate another thing and pin that on me - and say how I said that too...

    hehe
  • IceAgeIceAge Member RarePosts: 2,222
    DMKano said:
    hehe
    Sorry , I didn't read all your rant as soon as I saw "twitch numbers" again lol.

    I just show you real data, not belief . Screen shots made by me and not some website. That's first hand proof right there, after the first month. 

    Why I keep saying "..after the first month" you ask? Well .. I know someone with a crystal ball, who told me that if not after 2-3 weeks, then surely after first month, we will see a big drop in subs. 

    Care to show him my screen shots ? :)

    Thanks!
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,177
    edited September 28
    IceAge said:
    DMKano said:
    hehe
    Sorry , I didn't read all your rant as soon as I saw "twitch numbers" again lol.

    I just show you real data, not belief . Screen shots made by me and not some website. That's first hand proof right there, after the first month. 

    Why I keep saying "..after the first month" you ask? Well .. I know someone with a crystal ball, who told me that if not after 2-3 weeks, then surely after first month, we will see a big drop in subs. 

    Care to show him my screen shots ? :)

    Thanks!


    Single data point - one screenshot taken by you

    vs

    Multiple data points - taken at multiple times during each day for all servers since WoW classic launch

    https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/45838-wow-classic-population-report-september-19th/


    Which one shows a clearer picture?

    Please....
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