In some people's opinion, SC can do nothing right.
In my opinion, SC is far too expensive for an incomplete game.
So, in my opinion, money put into SC at this time is a sunken cost. I didn't buy a car with the intention of driving it in 5 years, nor have I bought a ticket to Mars. Money for future consumer goods is a sunken cost to me. Please don't try to insist that these cases are similar to the futures/options market, they aren't -- money put into SC (and other crowd-funded games) isn't protected by laws and SEC regulations (in the US).
Hello Mendel,
were you or are you Star Citizen backer?
Do you participate in any game crowdfunding?
Have fun
I did not give money to Star Citizen, and have never participated in any game crowdfunding.
Thank you.
Have fun
Now I'm curious. Why ask if I contributed to SC or other crowdfunded games?
The original request by the OP was: „Describe the moment you realized that supporting Star Citizen was a "Sunk Cost Fallacy".“
And I wanted to know if you DID support Star Citizen. And then if at some time during the crowdfunding you realized something. But you did not support SC, did not participate in the crowdfunding.
You mentioned a car and 5 years of waiting for driving as an example. Waiting several years in a crowdfunding project is nothing unusual and not unexpected. I wanted to know if you participate in any crowdfunding projects, if you are personally familiar with the typical waiting time in crowdfunding campaigns.
Have fun
So you're discounting opinions BECAUSE they didn't participate. I heard about Star Citizen in 2016, did a quick bit of research, and decided the time for jumping into this game wasn't then. That really hasn't changed. But your bias on other people's observations BECAUSE they didn't hemorrhage money in Chris Robert's direction isn't exactly open and forthcoming. I wasn't enthralled with Wing Commander, and this both wasn't my type of game and not likely to be completed within my lifetime.
You statements suggest that you're discriminating of anyone who doesn't share your opinions. Individual people react differently to waiting, and it is almost like you're trying to smear anyone who doesn't accept the "Crowdfunding norm" of waiting a very large number of years. These companies are attempting to sell a product that doesn't exist yet. Yet they expect payment now, in many cases extravagant costs, far beyond my financial resource and comfort levels.
Can I book you on my new space tourism venture for an Alpha flight to Nepture? There's space available on the earliest flight aboard the ProofOfConcept III. Will that be 3 or 4 tickets?
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
So you're discounting opinions BECAUSE they didn't participate.
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No. I was merely asking for information to put your answer into context.
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You statements suggest that you're discriminating of anyone who doesn't share your opinions. >>>
That is your personal interpretation. As far as i am concerned i think this interpretation is incorrect.
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it is almost like you're trying to smear
anyone who doesn't accept the "Crowdfunding norm" of waiting a very
large number of years.
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Another interpretation of yours. As far as i am concerned i think this interpretation is incorrect.
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far beyond my financial resource and comfort levels. >>>
Is 55 $ (=cost of starter package) far beyond your financial resources and comfort levels? Or playing it for free during one of the free fly weekends? But of course anyone can also wait until the development is finished and buy it after launch. Or not.
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Can I book you on my new space tourism venture for an Alpha flight to Nepture?
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No thank you. I prefer Virgin Galactic. Great team, amazing achievements.
These companies are attempting to sell a product that doesn't exist yet. Yet they expect payment now, in many cases extravagant costs, far beyond my financial resource and comfort levels.
When you are a dev you do the same to publishers, you try to sell your ideas to get funding to make them a reality.
Crowdfunding exists in part because publishers are very adverse to risks or niche markets. Since there's enough gamers that feel the market is neglecting the games they want to play crowdunfing provided the way.
That's why Star Citizen very much exists, it's been playable since 2014 or something, and it is doing a good enough job to warrant continuous funding that breaks records year after year.
It might not be the game for you (yet or ever) and that's ok. There's plenty of other games out there. But it is for the ones who like it a dream game.
Just because the outside world is too lazy to see past the drama mongering or even make an effort to understand game development it doesn't mean they get to shit on the others that do without objection lol.
Actually It's quite sad that those who say it cannot be done keep trying to interrupt those who are doing it just for some kind of e-vindication to ease their frustrations.
The thing is that frustration will only get worse and worse. I've been saying for years now. Star Citizen will keep on going, getting more and more playable, with more and more players joining and making millions in the process.
Interesting behavioral swing. From backing off in posts, to becoming suddenly more aggressive after the one shutting down the usual canned responses gets a mysterious boot.
It's interesting to see the exploitation that goes on here sometimes. With the regular suspects making the same arguments in a loop, while abusing forum features to try and sweep away anything they can't dance around.
It takes some mighty shameless people to commit to such shameful behavior.
Funny isn't it? I'm sure the ones in this thread collectively whined together to get a temp ban on them. I didn't see anything ban worthy.
Interesting behavioral swing. From backing off in posts, to becoming suddenly more aggressive after the one shutting down the usual canned responses gets a mysterious boot.
It's interesting to see the exploitation that goes on here sometimes. With the regular suspects making the same arguments in a loop, while abusing forum features to try and sweep away anything they can't dance around.
It takes some mighty shameless people to commit to such shameful behavior.
Alt accounts to bypass temporary suspensions get both accounts permanently banned, then don't come complain it's because of the evil SC fans.
As for the ban I have no idea what happened, in fact, Erillion did DM me earlier asking if anything happened overnight that caused it. That theory @SlyLoK, is quite off.
So you're discounting opinions BECAUSE they didn't participate.
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No. I was merely asking for information to put your answer into context.
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You statements suggest that you're discriminating of anyone who doesn't share your opinions. >>>
That is your personal interpretation. As far as i am concerned i think this interpretation is incorrect.
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it is almost like you're trying to smear
anyone who doesn't accept the "Crowdfunding norm" of waiting a very
large number of years.
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Another interpretation of yours. As far as i am concerned i think this interpretation is incorrect.
These points are my interpretation of how you are presenting your points. Yes, these are my interpretation, and possibly others. My opinions are perfectly correct for me, just as yours are a perfect truth to you. You're perfectly welcome to think I'm wrong.
You statements appear to be intended to demean anyone who doesn't share your opinions. That is the way your language are coming across. If you're trying to convince me or others, you might want to reconsider your methods.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
R. Smart was right and people laughed at him. His games absolutely still suck but he was right about Star Citizen. He told everyone how this was going down. Damn
that's all I can think every time I see SC pop up in the news. I didn't even try to get my money back they can have the 50 or whatever it was back then for mustang package. Bet that's a lot of people. The biggest con in gaming history.
I don't see this game ever coming out with what it promised. It's too unrealistic. Anybody who knows anything about Development knows that CR is promising way too much
Too much money has been made to believe they are even going to try at this point. They are in the business of dream selling and it pays well.
Elite Dangerous/NMS will both be 15 years old before you see this game release, and when it does finally release, you are going to be unhappy with it, because it will not be what you thought it would be and that giant bubble will finally burst.
CR walks around as if he has made the best thing ever, but if you play the Alpha which I have, it's nothing special! Literally, if that alpha is supposed to represent some "NEXT LEVEL SPACE SIM" it's failing horribly at that. Its looks cool, but again looks do not equal gameplay.. the gameplay is seriously lacking.
I forget that when you mention gameplay and SC the knights say "But its only alpha" right...how many years have you been saying this now, and are you going to say this forever? When it comes out and it flops which its absolutely going to, what will you say then?
I'd rather play Elite or NMS personally. Hell, even Rebel Galaxy Outlaws.
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far beyond my financial resource and comfort levels. >>>
Is 55 $ (=cost of starter package) far beyond your financial resources and comfort levels? Or playing it for free during one of the free fly weekends? But of course anyone can also wait until the development is finished and buy it after launch. Or not.
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Can I book you on my new space tourism venture for an Alpha flight to Nepture?
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No thank you. I prefer Virgin Galactic. Great team, amazing achievements.
Yes, $55 is far beyond my comfort level. For the past several years, I have been on SSI Disability due to ongoing health concerns. Trust me, this is not conducive to financial survival. I can't have more than $2000 net worth and the government has checked this occasionally. I have been operating on a self-imposed gaming budget of about $10 per month, and I usually have to wait to build up bit in order to feed my gaming habit.
I cannot afford to buy into any game that is not complete and released. SC is neither. So, I will not consider purchasing it in its current state. Period. So the current state of SC doesn't meet my comfort levels, either.
I sincerely hope no one here ever ends up in my particular situation. But unless they offer this kind of background information, a forum post is absolutely no way to judge another person's financial standing.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
the irony is at this point people who havent spent anything can experience the same thing (other than maybe an ulcer) as people who have put hundreds if not thousands into it. I assume these fly free weekends allow people to fly not only what they have bought but some of the upper tier stuff (to entice them into buying it). Or maybe not.
Even if it does ever get put out beyond a tech demo phase and actually reaches something remotely retail worthy it will most definitely be a pay to win mish mash. But even that is a misnomer because as of yet there isnt any 'win' in the project. For something that sells everything the 'goals' certainly arent defined at all. At least the generic 'end game' type stuff most people want to know about. I will wait for the wall of fantasy stuff that doesnt exist yet and is likely never to exist from people trying to convince me the 'end game' of SC will be genre changing as well......
Passionate backers have no interest in convincing people to buy/plat Star Citizen (except the referral junkies), their interest is in debunking all the misinformation and lies that keeps being parroted like gospel by the usual hate/drama wagooner lol
For all that it matters the people who don't like Star Citizen or that just became disillusioned to the point of wanting it to fail are exactly the kind of people that the community wants to keep out of the game. In a way this open development and all the hardships that it entails servers as a great filter separating the wheat from the chaf.
Contrary to what people might think the true community of a game resides ingame and not on forums
far beyond my financial resource and comfort levels. >>>
Is 55 $ (=cost of starter package) far beyond your financial resources and comfort levels? Or playing it for free during one of the free fly weekends? But of course anyone can also wait until the development is finished and buy it after launch. Or not.
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Can I book you on my new space tourism venture for an Alpha flight to Nepture?
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No thank you. I prefer Virgin Galactic. Great team, amazing achievements.
Yes, $55 is far beyond my comfort level. For the past several years, I have been on SSI Disability due to ongoing health concerns. Trust me, this is not conducive to financial survival. I can't have more than $2000 net worth and the government has checked this occasionally. I have been operating on a self-imposed gaming budget of about $10 per month, and I usually have to wait to build up bit in order to feed my gaming habit.
I cannot afford to buy into any game that is not complete and released. SC is neither. So, I will not consider purchasing it in its current state. Period. So the current state of SC doesn't meet my comfort levels, either.
I sincerely hope no one here ever ends up in my particular situation. But unless they offer this kind of background information, a forum post is absolutely no way to judge another person's financial standing.
--> Thank you for your answer. I hope your health improves.
--> The current plethora of free to play games would then be a good option for you. As mentioned upthread Star Citizen is free to play too during the regular Free Fly Weekends, if you ever want to check it out without any monetary cost.
--> Have fun
(I personally know it can be found even in difficult situations and helps to keeps one sane and optimistic)
You statements appear to be intended to demean
anyone who doesn't share your opinions. That is the way your language
are coming across. >>>>
I often state that everyone is entitled to his own opinion.
Usually I post when someone declares a personal opinion as the one and only universal truth, and all others as false and inferior. A lot of misinformation about and propaganda against SC has been intentionally spread, especially a few years back. I like to post to correct that misinformation. For certain historical reasons i have a bit of an insider look on some of these coordinated misinformation campaigns (coming from communities such as 4chan etc.). Pointing out these intentionally disseminated lies is also one of the reasons i like to post.
I do speak about games i like. If this is a reason for others to join this project .. great. But you wont find my "Sales Pitch" in the respective SC recruiting thread in this subforum. That is for others. If someone joins, i cheer, if they play something else, perfectly okay too. If someone only comes to this subforum to spread poison, i pity them - they waste a lot of their lifetime.
Passionate backers have no interest in convincing people to buy/plat Star Citizen (except the referral junkies), their interest is in debunking all the misinformation and lies that keeps being parroted like gospel by the usual hate/drama wagooner lol
For all that it matters the people who don't like Star Citizen or that just became disillusioned to the point of wanting it to fail are exactly the kind of people that the community wants to keep out of the game. In a way this open development and all the hardships that it entails servers as a great filter separating the wheat from the chaf.
Contrary to what people might think the true community of a game resides ingame and not on forums
the problem with that statement is what you see is what you get. There are no 'secret' builds or 'in development' builds that are more than what people can see for themselves now. There isnt something somewhere with any of the dozens of promised (and sold) things on it. Those things still do not exist and in some cases likely never will.
As far as wanting to see it fail. It already has. And miserably. The only thing literally keeping the lights on and the servers running is the apparent constant influx of new cash from delusional people still thinking this thing has any sort of hope of coming to life.
You think its a coincidence that after making such a grand gesture of the 'financial' reports last year there hasnt been a 2018 report given? If they did truly take out loans I am sure its only a matter of time before the default news starts hitting the net. Then its all over. Or maybe not I continue to underestimate the stupidity and gullibility of people when to comes to this mess. But I suppose that 42 million that was allegedly for marketing and advertising for SQ 42 has been used to keep the wolves at bay on the loan front.
The clock keeps ticking the calendar keeps flipping and the delays and push backs keep coming, and thats on the 'easy' stand alone game that was allegedly completely finished 3 years ago. And Roberts brother claimed to have played every mission in. Out right lies and possibly fraud, yet the fanboys simply over look it. How many lies have they been CAUGHT in? Which leads to the logical question of how many have they not been caught in. Well it doesnt matter because like I said what you see is what you get. And even the 'super secret' (for sake of the story line) SQ 42 development is becoming more and more obvious. If they cant deliver that thing then they will never ever deliver anything of note.
I said it almost a year ago when the news of the loan they got came out that this was where the rubber met the road and they were boxed in at that point and they either had to release that game in retail form or it was game over for the dream. So theyre still buying time but eventually that time is going to run out,and all the white knighting and road maps and 'development is hard' excuses wont cut it.
Then its good bye SQ 42 and hello MVP which is basically what exists right now. Which wont last very long because one reality sets in I suspect the money dries up and theyre not going to be able to keep servers open without funding.
As much as you dislike Star Citizen coming here calling backers and supporters of a game "stupid and gullible" only diminishes your reasoning.
Considering that Star Citizen is already playable, with a ever increasing player base surpassing most games of it's genre while showcasing it's development and making millions in the process the doomsday theories become more and more ludicrous. Specialy since they have been going since 2015 lol
But yeah, this time is for real! This is the year!
As much as you dislike Star Citizen coming here calling backers and supporters of a game "stupid and gullible" only diminishes your reasoning.
Considering that Star Citizen is already playable, with a ever increasing player base surpassing most games of it's genre while showcasing it's development and making millions in the process the doomsday theories become more and more ludicrous. Specialy since they have been going since 2015 lol
But yeah, this time is for real! This is the year!
What about "it isn't complete, it isn't finished, it isn't released" eludes you? I can't afford to support games in-development, even when they offer "fly free" weekends. It's not much of a game if I can't play it Monday through Friday.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
What about "it isn't complete, it isn't finished, it isn't released" eludes you? I can't afford to support games in-development, even when they offer "fly free" weekends. It's not much of a game if I can't play it Monday through Friday.
He wasn't talking to you, to rodarin over there with his usual rant against backers, SC has already failed, doomsday is coming, etc... etc...
What you had said on your reality is something that nobody is entitled to judge, even if you had the means you'd be still entitled to just not want to play one game until it is fully released as it is the case with many others, everyone has their own views on buying early access, funding crowdfunded games, etc...
As much as you dislike Star Citizen coming here calling backers and supporters of a game "stupid and gullible" only diminishes your reasoning.
Considering that Star Citizen is already playable, with a ever increasing player base surpassing most games of it's genre while showcasing it's development and making millions in the process the doomsday theories become more and more ludicrous. Specialy since they have been going since 2015 lol
But yeah, this time is for real! This is the year!
That comment is so laughable it almost isant worth commenting on but I will....
So its MADE millions? I thought they were putting it all into the project? But I am glad to see that you finally admit theyre profiting off the money those gullible and stupid people keep sending them.
As far as 'playable' I guess in the most basic semantics way possible you can log in and do a few things here and there but performance is still an issue. And the whole it has more people than most games of its genre. LMAO I imagine. If it werent for the Euros they wouldnt have 100 people logging in on a regular basis. As it is I doubt they get to a thousand.
As far as the '90 days' had people not continued to give them money it wouldnt have been 90s days. It also wouldnt be 90s days right now from the time they got their last donation until they shut down.
I notice no one ever tries to say thats wrong. Because they know its 100 % accurate. They only stay 'in development' as long as money keeps coming in. Thats after nearly 250 million raised through backers and another 42 million 'loan' (that we know of there are rumors of more. So 300 million basically is the product youre touting. Anyone who thinks thats is 300 million dollars 'worth' of game well noi one is that stupid. But I am sure theyre white knight enough to try and justify it.
Oh I am sure the comeback wil lbe they have a few million in the bank. I doubt it, if they did htey would have released the 2018 financials (like they said they would be doing going forward). But I suspect that Forbes article which basically dissected and showed just how bad the mismanagement of funds was made releasing those a one time deal.
In the end every thing said about Roberts and his abilities has come true. Just like everything that was said to be impossible is still true. Sure they may have some closed system 'successes' (which I have pointed out is basically them running a movie and calling it gameplay) on some things but they surely arent implemented in the test bed servers.
Its already been 7 years and 300 million. How much longer and how much more money until it comes close to stuff already released? Like we have said if (and I dont think they do) ever release anything retail worthy it will be so far in the future it will be ancient by comparison.
Considering that Star Citizen in it's current state is already the best space-sim in the market while they keep delivering updates and improving it the community will have no problem in support it like has been doing through all these years. If people have a problem with that, well it's their problem and their free to move on to other games.
Meanwhile Star Citizen just keeps getting better and better while making millions in the process
As much as you dislike Star Citizen coming here calling backers and supporters of a game "stupid and gullible" only diminishes your reasoning.
Considering that Star Citizen is already playable, with a ever increasing player base surpassing most games of it's genre while showcasing it's development and making millions in the process the doomsday theories become more and more ludicrous. Specialy since they have been going since 2015 lol
But yeah, this time is for real! This is the year!
That comment is so laughable it almost isant worth commenting on but I will....
So its MADE millions? I thought they were putting it all into the project? But I am glad to see that you finally admit theyre profiting off the money those gullible and stupid people keep sending them.
As far as 'playable' I guess in the most basic semantics way possible you can log in and do a few things here and there but performance is still an issue. And the whole it has more people than most games of its genre. LMAO I imagine. If it werent for the Euros they wouldnt have 100 people logging in on a regular basis. As it is I doubt they get to a thousand.
As far as the '90 days' had people not continued to give them money it wouldnt have been 90s days. It also wouldnt be 90s days right now from the time they got their last donation until they shut down.
I notice no one ever tries to say thats wrong. Because they know its 100 % accurate. They only stay 'in development' as long as money keeps coming in. Thats after nearly 250 million raised through backers and another 42 million 'loan' (that we know of there are rumors of more. So 300 million basically is the product youre touting. Anyone who thinks thats is 300 million dollars 'worth' of game well noi one is that stupid. But I am sure theyre white knight enough to try and justify it.
Oh I am sure the comeback wil lbe they have a few million in the bank. I doubt it, if they did htey would have released the 2018 financials (like they said they would be doing going forward). But I suspect that Forbes article which basically dissected and showed just how bad the mismanagement of funds was made releasing those a one time deal.
In the end every thing said about Roberts and his abilities has come true. Just like everything that was said to be impossible is still true. Sure they may have some closed system 'successes' (which I have pointed out is basically them running a movie and calling it gameplay) on some things but they surely arent implemented in the test bed servers.
Its already been 7 years and 300 million. How much longer and how much more money until it comes close to stuff already released? Like we have said if (and I dont think they do) ever release anything retail worthy it will be so far in the future it will be ancient by comparison.
Technically it’s 1.2bn since Roberts made the claim that 1 dollar they raise is worth 4 publisher dollars. Which just makes the lols even better if that’s all they can deliver for over a billion bucks
Technically it’s 1.2bn since Roberts made the claim that 1 dollar they raise is worth 4 publisher dollars. Which just makes the lols even better if that’s all they can deliver for over a billion bucks
And to add some more perspective, this would require a developer/publisher selling 20 million copies of a game and that's just to this point.
Considering that Star Citizen in it's current state is already the best space-sim in the market while they keep delivering updates and improving it the community will have no problem in support it like has been doing through all these years. If people have a problem with that, well it's their problem and their free to move on to other games.
Meanwhile Star Citizen just keeps getting better and better while making millions in the process
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Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
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As for the ban I have no idea what happened, in fact, Erillion did DM me earlier asking if anything happened overnight that caused it. That theory @SlyLoK, is quite off.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
that's all I can think every time I see SC pop up in the news. I didn't even try to get my money back they can have the 50 or whatever it was back then for mustang package. Bet that's a lot of people. The biggest con in gaming history.
I don't see this game ever coming out with what it promised. It's too unrealistic. Anybody who knows anything about Development knows that CR is promising way too much
Too much money has been made to believe they are even going to try at this point. They are in the business of dream selling and it pays well.
Elite Dangerous/NMS will both be 15 years old before you see this game release, and when it does finally release, you are going to be unhappy with it, because it will not be what you thought it would be and that giant bubble will finally burst.
CR walks around as if he has made the best thing ever, but if you play the Alpha which I have, it's nothing special! Literally, if that alpha is supposed to represent some "NEXT LEVEL SPACE SIM" it's failing horribly at that. Its looks cool, but again looks do not equal gameplay.. the gameplay is seriously lacking.
I forget that when you mention gameplay and SC the knights say "But its only alpha" right...how many years have you been saying this now, and are you going to say this forever? When it comes out and it flops which its absolutely going to, what will you say then?
I'd rather play Elite or NMS personally. Hell, even Rebel Galaxy Outlaws.
"The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."
Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
Even if it does ever get put out beyond a tech demo phase and actually reaches something remotely retail worthy it will most definitely be a pay to win mish mash. But even that is a misnomer because as of yet there isnt any 'win' in the project. For something that sells everything the 'goals' certainly arent defined at all. At least the generic 'end game' type stuff most people want to know about. I will wait for the wall of fantasy stuff that doesnt exist yet and is likely never to exist from people trying to convince me the 'end game' of SC will be genre changing as well......
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As far as wanting to see it fail. It already has. And miserably. The only thing literally keeping the lights on and the servers running is the apparent constant influx of new cash from delusional people still thinking this thing has any sort of hope of coming to life.
You think its a coincidence that after making such a grand gesture of the 'financial' reports last year there hasnt been a 2018 report given? If they did truly take out loans I am sure its only a matter of time before the default news starts hitting the net. Then its all over. Or maybe not I continue to underestimate the stupidity and gullibility of people when to comes to this mess. But I suppose that 42 million that was allegedly for marketing and advertising for SQ 42 has been used to keep the wolves at bay on the loan front.
The clock keeps ticking the calendar keeps flipping and the delays and push backs keep coming, and thats on the 'easy' stand alone game that was allegedly completely finished 3 years ago. And Roberts brother claimed to have played every mission in. Out right lies and possibly fraud, yet the fanboys simply over look it. How many lies have they been CAUGHT in? Which leads to the logical question of how many have they not been caught in. Well it doesnt matter because like I said what you see is what you get. And even the 'super secret' (for sake of the story line) SQ 42 development is becoming more and more obvious. If they cant deliver that thing then they will never ever deliver anything of note.
I said it almost a year ago when the news of the loan they got came out that this was where the rubber met the road and they were boxed in at that point and they either had to release that game in retail form or it was game over for the dream. So theyre still buying time but eventually that time is going to run out,and all the white knighting and road maps and 'development is hard' excuses wont cut it.
Then its good bye SQ 42 and hello MVP which is basically what exists right now. Which wont last very long because one reality sets in I suspect the money dries up and theyre not going to be able to keep servers open without funding.
As much as you dislike Star Citizen coming here calling backers and supporters of a game "stupid and gullible" only diminishes your reasoning.
Considering that Star Citizen is already playable, with a ever increasing player base surpassing most games of it's genre while showcasing it's development and making millions in the process the doomsday theories become more and more ludicrous.
Specialy since they have been going since 2015 lol
But yeah, this time is for real! This is the year!
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
What you had said on your reality is something that nobody is entitled to judge, even if you had the means you'd be still entitled to just not want to play one game until it is fully released as it is the case with many others, everyone has their own views on buying early access, funding crowdfunded games, etc...
So its MADE millions? I thought they were putting it all into the project? But I am glad to see that you finally admit theyre profiting off the money those gullible and stupid people keep sending them.
As far as 'playable' I guess in the most basic semantics way possible you can log in and do a few things here and there but performance is still an issue. And the whole it has more people than most games of its genre. LMAO I imagine. If it werent for the Euros they wouldnt have 100 people logging in on a regular basis. As it is I doubt they get to a thousand.
As far as the '90 days' had people not continued to give them money it wouldnt have been 90s days. It also wouldnt be 90s days right now from the time they got their last donation until they shut down.
I notice no one ever tries to say thats wrong. Because they know its 100 % accurate. They only stay 'in development' as long as money keeps coming in. Thats after nearly 250 million raised through backers and another 42 million 'loan' (that we know of there are rumors of more. So 300 million basically is the product youre touting. Anyone who thinks thats is 300 million dollars 'worth' of game well noi one is that stupid. But I am sure theyre white knight enough to try and justify it.
Oh I am sure the comeback wil lbe they have a few million in the bank. I doubt it, if they did htey would have released the 2018 financials (like they said they would be doing going forward). But I suspect that Forbes article which basically dissected and showed just how bad the mismanagement of funds was made releasing those a one time deal.
In the end every thing said about Roberts and his abilities has come true. Just like everything that was said to be impossible is still true. Sure they may have some closed system 'successes' (which I have pointed out is basically them running a movie and calling it gameplay) on some things but they surely arent implemented in the test bed servers.
Its already been 7 years and 300 million. How much longer and how much more money until it comes close to stuff already released? Like we have said if (and I dont think they do) ever release anything retail worthy it will be so far in the future it will be ancient by comparison.