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Power Supply upgrade advice....

ArglebargleArglebargle Member RarePosts: 2,568
Heya all!  Need some advice on an upgrade replacement for my power supply.  I've been getting some full resets on my computer, most likely due to insufficient power.  (This is the opinion of the most savvy tech I know).   

I am running on a pretty maxxed out Dell XPS8700.  It has 32G of ram, an i7 4790 processor, three harddrives (2 SSD, one platter), dvd writer, and a Nvidia 1070ti card.  A couple of the more intensively graphic games crash the computer.  Checked the current power supply, and it's a Seasonic 460 watt version.    Started looking for an upgrade to put into the machine, but have run across some claims that the 3.3 and 5 volt power lines need to be fairly beefy.   Had a possible replacement inhouse, but it wasn't modular and the cpu power out on it was a straight 8 pin connector, not the 4pin that the motherboard wants.

I'm looking to get a reasonably priced (ie under $100) power supply upgrade, but am a little leery of the technical specs needed.  I want to ride this computer for awhile before considering a full replacement.

Opinions, advice, and direction gratefully accepted!

If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

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  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 6,803
    Get another seasonic - 600-650W
    Torval
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,410
    I have a SeaSonic M12II 520 and love it. My rig is ASROCK Z97 Killer, 4790 (locked), GTX-970, 16GB, 3 SSD, and an hdd. The PSU has been rock solid.

    I'm looking to upgrade the 970 and may need to upgrade the PSU. I've been looking at these 2.

    First the M12II 620 Bronze $65 at Newegg. It's also highly rated. The biggest drawback to the M12II PSUs is their old tech and don't support modern boards and features. I wouldn't be moving this to a new box.



    For $44 more the Focus Plus 650W Platinum is pretty nice ($109 at Newegg). Right now the Platinum is on sale for the same price as the Gold, so the price won't stay.

    HardOCP likes the Focus Plus series with the noise being one of the biggest criticisms I guess. That's typically my reference point. I'm really bummed he's moving on, but appreciate all the site has done.

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  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,026
    Can't go wrong with Seasonic. Any other psu you need to research who made it even if they are in the same brand name.
  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member RarePosts: 2,568
    Thanks for the advice!  Got another Seasonic on the way....
    Torval

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,410
    If you don't mind saying, what did you choose and what made that model the choice for you? If you don't want to that's cool too.
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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 11,666
    edited July 22
    Torval said:
    First the M12II 620 Bronze $65 at Newegg. It's also highly rated. The biggest drawback to the M12II PSUs is their old tech and don't support modern boards and features.

    ....what boards and features?
    Post edited by Gdemami on
  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member RarePosts: 2,568
    Looked around at the various Seasonics available, but decided to go with your suggestion of a m12II 620.  Since this is not a totally modern computer set up being fixed, the older design's lack of modern bells and whistles didn't bother me much.  Liked that it was modular.  Was relatively price sensitive too, as the next couple of months will be belt tighteners.

    In a year or so, I will probably build a new computer;  my prior ones go into audio production mode.   This one will do that job pretty well for awhile.
    Torval

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 6,803
    “Bells and Whistles” on a PSU amount to just varied types of available connectors for the most part anyway.
  • ShankTheTankShankTheTank Associate Editor / News ManagerMMORPG.COM Staff UncommonPosts: 31
    Arglebargle said:
    Heya all!  Need some advice on an upgrade replacement for my power supply.  I've been getting some full resets on my computer, most likely due to insufficient power.  (This is the opinion of the most savvy tech I know).   

    I am running on a pretty maxxed out Dell XPS8700.  It has 32G of ram, an i7 4790 processor, three harddrives (2 SSD, one platter), dvd writer, and a Nvidia 1070ti card.  A couple of the more intensively graphic games crash the computer.  Checked the current power supply, and it's a Seasonic 460 watt version.    Started looking for an upgrade to put into the machine, but have run across some claims that the 3.3 and 5 volt power lines need to be fairly beefy.   Had a possible replacement inhouse, but it wasn't modular and the cpu power out on it was a straight 8 pin connector, not the 4pin that the motherboard wants.

    I'm looking to get a reasonably priced (ie under $100) power supply upgrade, but am a little leery of the technical specs needed.  I want to ride this computer for awhile before considering a full replacement.

    Opinions, advice, and direction gratefully accepted!
    For power supplies, name brand matters. Something else you should seriously consider is the 80+ certification. You typically want something that's certified at least 80+ Bronze. Some good brands include seasonic, corsair RM series, EVGA G series, Thermaltake.

    Additionally, this isn't required but I've personally found this extremely useful, modular power supplies (i.e. power supplies where the cables are not permanently affixed to the power supply) simply provide better quality of life because you don't have to deal with cables you don't need to use. Only plug in the cables you need. Hope this helps.
    Ozmodan
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,410
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    First the M12II 620 Bronze $65 at Newegg. It's also highly rated. The biggest drawback to the M12II PSUs is their old tech and don't support modern boards and features.

    ....what boards and features?
    It has to do with certain newer low power states. I'm pretty sure it can be worked around with most newer boards by disabling them (C6/C7). Also, it's a group regulated PSU without secondary protection. It's a great PSU but it's a little outdated is all. The model is still worth recommending in my opinion, but I think the warning is valid.
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,410
    Looked around at the various Seasonics available, but decided to go with your suggestion of a m12II 620.  Since this is not a totally modern computer set up being fixed, the older design's lack of modern bells and whistles didn't bother me much.  Liked that it was modular.  Was relatively price sensitive too, as the next couple of months will be belt tighteners.

    In a year or so, I will probably build a new computer;  my prior ones go into audio production mode.   This one will do that job pretty well for awhile.
    That is probably my choice too if a new GPU requires it.

    This was my first modular PSU. I really love that feature. In order to get fully modular on the Focus series you have to pay more. The less expensive models are semi-modular.

    It was Ridelynn who first turned me on to these. I had a bad oem PSU that killed my mobo. The M12II 520 came up as a recommendation to research. It's worked out well.
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  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 7,742
    I just replaced a Corsair HX850 PSU after 10 years of operation with a Corsair RM850x white PSU.


    Torval


  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 11,666
    edited July 22
    Torval said:
    It has to do with certain newer low power states. 
    Yeah, that whooping 3W saving in idle...valid warning.

    Besides, the EVO line(doubt you can find non-EVO units at stores) should be 'Haswell ready':
    http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=66140
  • HellscreamHellscream Member UncommonPosts: 92

    CORSAIR - CX Series Modular CX750M 750W 80 Plus Bronze this for 90 dollars is a decent PSU if you have a local best buy they should have some on hand

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