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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 30,177
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 6,941
    Down you go in the Rabbit hole. 

    You can blow a kiss in MMORPGs to any other player. If you were up to create a thread regarding that then you would have probably asked: Have you sexually assaulted another player in a MMORPG? 

    ;)
    In today's overly sensitive world, you bet there is a difference, solely based on the recipient's mental state (or lack thereof) :)
    ConstantineMerus

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    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 9,161
    AlBQuirky said:
    Down you go in the Rabbit hole. 

    You can blow a kiss in MMORPGs to any other player. If you were up to create a thread regarding that then you would have probably asked: Have you sexually assaulted another player in a MMORPG? 

    ;)
    In today's overly sensitive world, you bet there is a difference, solely based on the recipient's mental state (or lack thereof) :)
    The only problem with that reasoning is that I don't know a MMORPG yet where blowing a kiss will make the recipient was resurrection debuff, gold, and time, or just make the opponent completely unable to play at all like corpse/graveyard camping does.
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  • LimnicLimnic Member RarePosts: 1,116
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    We actually played "murderball" at my highschool.

    It was like dodgeball, but it was played on a cement patio, teams could free-roam the whole field, and grappling/tackling was allowed.

    Needless to say, concussions were involved.
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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,275
    Limnic said:
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    We actually played "murderball" at my highschool.

    It was like dodgeball, but it was played on a cement patio, teams could free-roam the whole field, and grappling/tackling was allowed.

    Needless to say, concussions were involved.
    When i was kid , we used to squirt lighter fluid all over a Tennis ball and light it up , and play tag with it at nite , there was never any denying if you got it ...

      The balls only lasted so  long .. and you had to throw quickly which was really fun game
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  • Vermillion_RaventhalVermillion_Raventhal Member EpicPosts: 4,178
    edited June 2019
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    Lol, never knew dodgeball was a roleplaying game or involved assault.  MMORPG involve virtual killing of virtual characters and lots of jt. Do you deny they even kill in games now lol.  Not sure what your point is. 

    If you accept there is killing then you have to accept there can be different types of killing... murder or self defense.  

    I can tell you never read quest that involve killing.

    Did you manage to message Bethesda and Zenimax for the use of the word murder in ESO?  I work a few miles from them.  I could hold a sign out in front for a few minutes if you make it.

    Scales of Pitiless Justice – Bounty and Heat resulting from a witnessed Murder or Assault is reduced by 20%.  Oh no murder and assault of NPCs no less.  
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 6,316
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    Lol, never knew dodgeball was a roleplaying game or involved assault.   
    Well.. if you played Dodge Ball in my high school, yo would know it involved assault, we would cheer each other on with how hard we could hit each other, and a head shot that spun the other person around before they fell over, got everyone cheering...

    How the hell my generation survived.. I am not sure.. but here we are.. still kicking I guess.
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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    Those rubber balls may not have concussed people, but it sure AF sounded like it.

    BLOINK!!!


     :D 
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  • Vermillion_RaventhalVermillion_Raventhal Member EpicPosts: 4,178
    Ungood said:
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    Lol, never knew dodgeball was a roleplaying game or involved assault.   
    Well.. if you played Dodge Ball in my high school, yo would know it involved assault, we would cheer each other on with how hard we could hit each other, and a head shot that spun the other person around before they fell over, got everyone cheering...

    How the hell my generation survived.. I am not sure.. but here we are.. still kicking I guess.
    My childhood gym class cruelty moment was in second grade someone fast pitched the kickball to the little person who was barely bigger than the ball.  
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 10,732
    Ungood said:
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    Lol, never knew dodgeball was a roleplaying game or involved assault.   
    Well.. if you played Dodge Ball in my high school, yo would know it involved assault, we would cheer each other on with how hard we could hit each other, and a head shot that spun the other person around before they fell over, got everyone cheering...

    How the hell my generation survived.. I am not sure.. but here we are.. still kicking I guess.
    My childhood gym class cruelty moment was in second grade someone fast pitched the kickball to the little person who was barely bigger than the ball.  
    Wait you see, dodge ball wasn’t cruelty. It was a just a game. 
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 38,648
    edited June 2019
    I think all sports need to be removed from school. There are many people who can't play soccer or basketball or football or any number of sports. This makes the "haves" and "have nots", and creates bullying and popularity contests.

    Someone forced to run can cause many issues, especially health wise. Like if have to run a mile or a marathon many people have asthma or any number of things that can make that a problem. Then they have to sit on the side and be bullied (laughed at) by the other kids.

    I think all athletic sports need to be removed from schools, and remove anything that creates popularity (again haves/have nots). This would help stop a lot of the bullying and make people be friends with more people. Its not a 100% solution but goes a lot of the way there.
    I think it might be less challenging to try to eliminate world hunger vs changing the many ways people behave badly towards others who are not members of their clique or social group.

    Seems to be some sort of throwback survival behavior wired into us from thousands of years competing for scarce resources which of course still continues to this day.

    If one is not like us they must be mocked and driven out into the wilderness, or so it seems.


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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 6,941
    Ungood said:
    How the hell my generation survived.. I am not sure.. but here we are.. still kicking I guess.
    That's easy! Your generation (and mine) developed the skills needed to live and survive, not to wither in a world full of "safe places" as these later generations are now taught.
    KyleranbcbullyScorchienUngood

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
    - FARGIN_WAR


  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    edited June 2019
    I think all sports need to be removed from school. There are many people who can't play soccer or basketball or football or any number of sports. This makes the "haves" and "have nots", and creates bullying and popularity contests.

    Someone forced to run can cause many issues, especially health wise. Like if have to run a mile or a marathon many people have asthma or any number of things that can make that a problem. Then they have to sit on the side and be bullied (laughed at) by the other kids.

    I think all athletic sports need to be removed from schools, and remove anything that creates popularity (again haves/have nots). This would help stop a lot of the bullying and make people be friends with more people. Its not a 100% solution but goes a lot of the way there.
    Agreed as someone who always dreamed of being a Rockstar in highschool I was envious of the kids in Band class who could really jam. The fucking PRIVILEGE on those cunts born with natural music ability having a outlet to develop and hone their skills and someday make a career out of something they love !


    Fuck your athletic scholarship, No education for you! 





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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 2,808
    AlBQuirky said:
    Ungood said:
    How the hell my generation survived.. I am not sure.. but here we are.. still kicking I guess.
    That's easy! Your generation (and mine) developed the skills needed to live and survive, not to wither in a world full of "safe places" as these later generations are now taught.
    From the age of 6 to 9, we lived in a cool neighborhood with so many great traditions. One of them was called Stone Wars which was a daily activity and we only aimed for heads. I had so many bumps that my father used to use my head to stonewash his jeans. 
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 30,177
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    Lol, never knew dodgeball was a roleplaying game or involved assault.  MMORPG involve virtual killing of virtual characters and lots of jt. Do you deny they even kill in games now lol.  Not sure what your point is. 

    If you accept there is killing then you have to accept there can be different types of killing... murder or self defense.  

    I can tell you never read quest that involve killing.

    Did you manage to message Bethesda and Zenimax for the use of the word murder in ESO?  I work a few miles from them.  I could hold a sign out in front for a few minutes if you make it.

    Scales of Pitiless Justice – Bounty and Heat resulting from a witnessed Murder or Assault is reduced by 20%.  Oh no murder and assault of NPCs no less.  
    Maybe you're just a bit too sensitive to be playing these games.

    Kyleran
  • Vermillion_RaventhalVermillion_Raventhal Member EpicPosts: 4,178
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    Lol, never knew dodgeball was a roleplaying game or involved assault.  MMORPG involve virtual killing of virtual characters and lots of jt. Do you deny they even kill in games now lol.  Not sure what your point is. 

    If you accept there is killing then you have to accept there can be different types of killing... murder or self defense.  

    I can tell you never read quest that involve killing.

    Did you manage to message Bethesda and Zenimax for the use of the word murder in ESO?  I work a few miles from them.  I could hold a sign out in front for a few minutes if you make it.

    Scales of Pitiless Justice – Bounty and Heat resulting from a witnessed Murder or Assault is reduced by 20%.  Oh no murder and assault of NPCs no less.  
    Maybe you're just a bit too sensitive to be playing these games.

    Lol says the guy who thinks the word murder when describing a virtual murder is loaded. 

    Honestly, I probably don't have enough emotion when it comes to these games.  
    Gdemami
  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    yes you are not killing, but you say kill 10 rats, I killed that boss, and I need to kill 100 mobs till the next lvl

    again I ask how the hell you guys function on real world if a word is too hard?
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 30,177
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    yes you are not killing, but you say kill 10 rats, I killed that boss, and I need to kill 100 mobs till the next lvl

    again I ask how the hell you guys function on real world if a word is too hard?
    We function because we know it's a game, we know we aren't really "killing anything" and we are smart enough to pick up on someone's "ulterior motive" when they used the word "murder" which is rarely used in a game sense when dealing with other players.
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  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    yes you are not killing, but you say kill 10 rats, I killed that boss, and I need to kill 100 mobs till the next lvl

    again I ask how the hell you guys function on real world if a word is too hard?
    We function because we know it's a game, we know we aren't really "killing anything" and we are smart enough to pick up on someone's "ulterior motive" when they used the word "murder" which is rarely used in a game sense when dealing with other players.
    rarely? since when? I need to recall the part I said the status of red named was murderers in old games? let the wording go, you give too much value to words, actions are what should be judged
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 38,648
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    yes you are not killing, but you say kill 10 rats, I killed that boss, and I need to kill 100 mobs till the next lvl

    again I ask how the hell you guys function on real world if a word is too hard?
    We function because we know it's a game, we know we aren't really "killing anything" and we are smart enough to pick up on someone's "ulterior motive" when they used the word "murder" which is rarely used in a game sense when dealing with other players.
    rarely? since when? I need to recall the part I said the status of red named was murderers in old games? let the wording go, you give too much value to words, actions are what should be judged
    Must have been different games than I played.  Lineage1,  Lineage 2, Shadowbane, DAOC, EVE, WOW, always called them PKs, Reds, Gankers, but never murderers.


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  • GutlardGutlard Member RarePosts: 1,019
    LOTRO "Kill Deeds," not only do you need to kill 80 of a certain mob, you then need to kill another 160 to finish the Deed. Mass murder to increase my VIRTUES, for the greater good!  :o

    And I won't even mention the thousands of "Free People" I've sent back to the rez circle after filling their bodies with my Black Arrow shafts....

    Good clean fun!

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  • Vermillion_RaventhalVermillion_Raventhal Member EpicPosts: 4,178
    Kyleran said:
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    yes you are not killing, but you say kill 10 rats, I killed that boss, and I need to kill 100 mobs till the next lvl

    again I ask how the hell you guys function on real world if a word is too hard?
    We function because we know it's a game, we know we aren't really "killing anything" and we are smart enough to pick up on someone's "ulterior motive" when they used the word "murder" which is rarely used in a game sense when dealing with other players.
    rarely? since when? I need to recall the part I said the status of red named was murderers in old games? let the wording go, you give too much value to words, actions are what should be judged
    Must have been different games than I played.  Lineage1,  Lineage 2, Shadowbane, DAOC, EVE, WOW, always called them PKs, Reds, Gankers, but never murderers.


    In UO they were called murder counts. 

    https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/player/the-murder-system/
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  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    Kyleran said:
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    yes you are not killing, but you say kill 10 rats, I killed that boss, and I need to kill 100 mobs till the next lvl

    again I ask how the hell you guys function on real world if a word is too hard?
    We function because we know it's a game, we know we aren't really "killing anything" and we are smart enough to pick up on someone's "ulterior motive" when they used the word "murder" which is rarely used in a game sense when dealing with other players.
    rarely? since when? I need to recall the part I said the status of red named was murderers in old games? let the wording go, you give too much value to words, actions are what should be judged
    Must have been different games than I played.  Lineage1,  Lineage 2, Shadowbane, DAOC, EVE, WOW, always called them PKs, Reds, Gankers, but never murderers.


    In UO they were called murder counts. 

    https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/player/the-murder-system/

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 30,177
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    Lol people are always interesting. Never thought I would get reactions to a word like murder in a genre literally 90% of gameplay is killing.  
    Except you aren't killing just like playing Dodgeball isn't assault.


    yes you are not killing, but you say kill 10 rats, I killed that boss, and I need to kill 100 mobs till the next lvl

    again I ask how the hell you guys function on real world if a word is too hard?
    We function because we know it's a game, we know we aren't really "killing anything" and we are smart enough to pick up on someone's "ulterior motive" when they used the word "murder" which is rarely used in a game sense when dealing with other players.
    rarely? since when? I need to recall the part I said the status of red named was murderers in old games? let the wording go, you give too much value to words, actions are what should be judged
    Actions? It's a game. It's ok for other players to "kill" other players. If it's part of the game then it's part of the fun.

    The only things is whether or not there is a sense of meaning, a reason. If I'm taking you out because we have a clan war then that's part of the fun. If I'm taking you out because you won't move out of a leveling spot then that's part of the fun. And vice versa. Now, in truth, I tend not to take people out if they are leveling in an area but I do love clan wars.

    People should not play games that have this type of pvp if they have issues with it. Not sure how many times this needs to be said. It's as if they just make excuses and expect other people to leave them alone "because."


    ConstantineMerusScorchien
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