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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054
    In Ultima Online Beta... there was a small fenced area of rabbits that were killable for skill gain.  I went in, shut the gate and started leveling up my sword skill on them.  

    This was when MMOs were brand new to most people, so folks would wander by and ask why I was in there and then sometimes join me.

    Being a little shit at the time (still a shit now, just bigger) I invited them in, shut the gate behind them and then murdered them in cold pixel blood.  People even tried to log out, but when they came back I was still there in my bunny slaughterhouse.  Funny seeing ghosts going OoOooOo  while I lure the next person into the cage...

    So yes, I have murdered in game. 

    Would I do that today?  No...  I'd hope not.  (and even if I wanted to my skills are pretty feeble)




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  • Vermillion_RaventhalVermillion_Raventhal Member EpicPosts: 3,936
    edited June 13
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    Viper482 said:
    Horusra said:
    Murder is a legal term for unlawful killing.  Is there a law in the game that says you can not kill a player?  If not then you have never "murdered" someone in a game.
    Oh come on, it is pretty clear what the topic is, why the drama over semantics? You and a bunch of other absurd posters questioning the topic. Obviously you never played Ultima Online where if you turned red you were considered a murderer. 


    Y'all need to relax. 
    Language can be very evocative and the use of the word murder seems extreme.

    And then it begs the question "what is the point?" Why does he want to know? Ok great, some of us have engaged in pvp and in some cases unprovoked pvp. Now what?
    read what define a murder and then put it in place, killing someone is considered murder, don't matter if he can ressurect later, you still did the act of murder, get over the semantics and get truth, if one word is too extreme you are not fit to survive the world
    The "act of murder?" I think the world might be a bit too extreme for you if you take it that far. It's just player "killing" and no adjusted person takes it farther than that. Does it bother me? Of course not. I think it's overkill and I think the OP is being cute.

    But ok, I'll play ...

    @OP: great, you now know that people have actually taken part in FFA pvp and hit unsuspecting people. Now what?

    Hey OP, I have question for you. Have you "murdered anyone" in game?


    Lol, I am only using murder because it's specific.  Just to avoid confusion.  I think killing some nameless guy on a PvP battlefield is different killing some guy for his stuff, just because or someone who pissed you off.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,054
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    Viper482 said:
    Horusra said:
    Murder is a legal term for unlawful killing.  Is there a law in the game that says you can not kill a player?  If not then you have never "murdered" someone in a game.
    Oh come on, it is pretty clear what the topic is, why the drama over semantics? You and a bunch of other absurd posters questioning the topic. Obviously you never played Ultima Online where if you turned red you were considered a murderer. 


    Y'all need to relax. 
    Language can be very evocative and the use of the word murder seems extreme.

    And then it begs the question "what is the point?" Why does he want to know? Ok great, some of us have engaged in pvp and in some cases unprovoked pvp. Now what?
    read what define a murder and then put it in place, killing someone is considered murder, don't matter if he can ressurect later, you still did the act of murder, get over the semantics and get truth, if one word is too extreme you are not fit to survive the world
    The "act of murder?" I think the world might be a bit too extreme for you if you take it that far. It's just player "killing" and no adjusted person takes it farther than that. Does it bother me? Of course not. I think it's overkill and I think the OP is being cute.

    But ok, I'll play ...

    @OP: great, you now know that people have actually taken part in FFA pvp and hit unsuspecting people. Now what?

    Hey OP, I have question for you. Have you "murdered anyone" in game?


    Lol, I am only using murder because it's specific.  Just to avoid confusion.  I think killing some nameless guy on a PvP battlefield is different ths 
    Ok, fair enough, I guess I'm wrong.



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  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    Sovrath said:
    Viper482 said:
    Horusra said:
    Murder is a legal term for unlawful killing.  Is there a law in the game that says you can not kill a player?  If not then you have never "murdered" someone in a game.
    Oh come on, it is pretty clear what the topic is, why the drama over semantics? You and a bunch of other absurd posters questioning the topic. Obviously you never played Ultima Online where if you turned red you were considered a murderer. 


    Y'all need to relax. 
    Language can be very evocative and the use of the word murder seems extreme.

    And then it begs the question "what is the point?" Why does he want to know? Ok great, some of us have engaged in pvp and in some cases unprovoked pvp. Now what?
    What if we are all being entered into some sort of serial killer lotto by responding to this thread ?




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  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 2,713
    edited June 14
    Sovrath said:
    Viper482 said:
    Horusra said:
    Murder is a legal term for unlawful killing.  Is there a law in the game that says you can not kill a player?  If not then you have never "murdered" someone in a game.
    Oh come on, it is pretty clear what the topic is, why the drama over semantics? You and a bunch of other absurd posters questioning the topic. Obviously you never played Ultima Online where if you turned red you were considered a murderer. 


    Y'all need to relax. 
    Language can be very evocative and the use of the word murder seems extreme.

    And then it begs the question "what is the point?" Why does he want to know? Ok great, some of us have engaged in pvp and in some cases unprovoked pvp. Now what?

    Funny, I knew exactly what he meant. Maybe people who were never really into pvp are the ones with the issue?

    "OMG! HE SAID MURDER REGARDING A GAME!" 

    People are just overly sensitive these days about everything. 
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  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 6,947
    Once, and felt guilty in WoW, but no communication.  Was trying to non verbally tell him that i would help with his Horde quest, but he saw me as a threat and kept attacking me. So it was a no go. I was a higher level.
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  • HatefullHatefull Member EpicPosts: 2,181
    Nanfoodle said:
    Your questions wording is odd and disturbing.
    I think I MMORPG murder is more fitting term for killing someone for no reason.  Consider that many times players will kill each other for the realm differentiating it is logical.  

    You know, have you killed player for no reason other than loot, malice, boredom or etc?
    Pretty easy to counter that with: Yes, I play PvP games. 

    But you wanted a click-bait title, most likely hunting that gold name. No worries dude, we got you.

    If you want a new idea, go read an old book.

  • coretex666coretex666 Member EpicPosts: 3,634
    Yes, but always just once. I was never ganking people (i.e. repeatedly killing them, camping their corpses, etc..).
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,054
    Viper482 said:
    Sovrath said:
    Viper482 said:
    Horusra said:
    Murder is a legal term for unlawful killing.  Is there a law in the game that says you can not kill a player?  If not then you have never "murdered" someone in a game.
    Oh come on, it is pretty clear what the topic is, why the drama over semantics? You and a bunch of other absurd posters questioning the topic. Obviously you never played Ultima Online where if you turned red you were considered a murderer. 


    Y'all need to relax. 
    Language can be very evocative and the use of the word murder seems extreme.

    And then it begs the question "what is the point?" Why does he want to know? Ok great, some of us have engaged in pvp and in some cases unprovoked pvp. Now what?

    Funny, I knew exactly what he meant. Maybe people who were never really into pvp are the ones with the issue?

    "OMG! HE SAID MURDER REGARDING A GAME!" 

    People are just overly sensitive these days about everything. 
    I played and loved Lineage 2 for over 6 years. Including its pvp. I'm ok with ffa pvp. I'm generally not ok with people who take it seriously and can't separate game from their issues.

    It seems more like he had an agenda and wanted to make a sensational title. But he says not so there it is.
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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 5,734
    edited June 14
    Hatefull said:

     most likely hunting that gold name. No worries dude, we got you.
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    edited June 14
    Yes, but the guy had it coming.  I mean, he ninja-looted Thunderfury, and this was back before legendaries were everywh-


    Oh.  OH.  You said "in an MMMORPG," not "over an MMORPG."

    No, never.  I mean, I could never.  For sure.  I mean, for sure never.  Just don't have it in me to harm someone, y'know?  Even if it's fake.  Yeah, too soft, that's me...  >.> <.<
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  • UngoodUngood Member EpicPosts: 2,757
    Well.. Yah.. sorta. Back in the Days of MUD's, if someone was AFK scripting, we would go in and slaughter them with impunity, it was like a witch hunt for us, as back them we viewed AFK scripting as downright cheating, so, if we caught you, we brutally slaughtered you, some of us even went so far as to kill anyone that tried to come to help you.

    So yah, we were assholes.

    Then the GM's got involved and there was some issues about it, people would report us for unprovoked PvP, which was kinda stupid that Unprovoked PvP was a bannable offence in a game they made Open World PvP... Like what do you think we are going to do if you give us the ability to kill each other.. sit around and have tea and cupcakes?

    Anyway.. after my time in Full Loot Open World PvP MUDs, I was glad to move on to PvE only games, and not deal with that level of douchebaggery, which might be why I never got involved with UO. Now days, if I want to PvP, I play a PvP game, like PvP Arena Games, where we are there to mainly just kill each other.

    Not a fan of mixed games where I am expected to do PvE BS amidst PvP BS.
  • SharneSharne Member UncommonPosts: 145
    Well I went to when I first started eve, I went out to lower sector space looking for someone to kill and came across a guy in kestrel (I was in a punisher) and thought, hmm shall I take him on? The next thing I know he was firing on me and battle ensued. I managed to kill him with about 1% hull left and made my first kill and  friend in eve.

    Loads of sanctioned kills in eve, Warhammer online etc but that's probably the only time I have ever gone out looking for someone to kill I felt terrible afterwards and sent him enough credits to cover the loss of his ship, which he promptly returned.



  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member RarePosts: 2,774
    edited June 14
    Viper482 said:
    Sovrath said:
    Viper482 said:
    Horusra said:
    Murder is a legal term for unlawful killing.  Is there a law in the game that says you can not kill a player?  If not then you have never "murdered" someone in a game.
    Oh come on, it is pretty clear what the topic is, why the drama over semantics? You and a bunch of other absurd posters questioning the topic. Obviously you never played Ultima Online where if you turned red you were considered a murderer. 


    Y'all need to relax. 
    Language can be very evocative and the use of the word murder seems extreme.

    And then it begs the question "what is the point?" Why does he want to know? Ok great, some of us have engaged in pvp and in some cases unprovoked pvp. Now what?

    Funny, I knew exactly what he meant. Maybe people who were never really into pvp are the ones with the issue?

    "OMG! HE SAID MURDER REGARDING A GAME!" 

    People are just overly sensitive these days about everything. 
    simple I know what he ment too since the red names was called murderers and teh act of him doing so is murder, saying it a hard word.... I wonder how people function in the world if words is enough to hurt then
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  • Vermillion_RaventhalVermillion_Raventhal Member EpicPosts: 3,936
    Hatefull said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Your questions wording is odd and disturbing.
    I think I MMORPG murder is more fitting term for killing someone for no reason.  Consider that many times players will kill each other for the realm differentiating it is logical.  

    You know, have you killed player for no reason other than loot, malice, boredom or etc?
    Pretty easy to counter that with: Yes, I play PvP games. 

    But you wanted a click-bait title, most likely hunting that gold name. No worries dude, we got you.
    Lol. Clickbait? Considering most of us have probably killed hundreds to thousands of combatant in games you kind of have to differentiate what I was talking about.

    I don't even know what a gold name is.  I give zero about social accolades.
  • Quizar1973Quizar1973 Member UncommonPosts: 237
    In Ultima Online Beta... there was a small fenced area of rabbits that were killable for skill gain.  I went in, shut the gate and started leveling up my sword skill on them.  

    This was when MMOs were brand new to most people, so folks would wander by and ask why I was in there and then sometimes join me.

    Being a little shit at the time (still a shit now, just bigger) I invited them in, shut the gate behind them and then murdered them in cold pixel blood.  People even tried to log out, but when they came back I was still there in my bunny slaughterhouse.  Funny seeing ghosts going OoOooOo  while I lure the next person into the cage...

    So yes, I have murdered in game. 

    Would I do that today?  No...  I'd hope not.  (and even if I wanted to my skills are pretty feeble)




    I myself was a PK in Ultima Online at the Crossroads right outside Brit....So yea im in the same boat...Had Red name during most of the time i played that game....That was of corse when it was Pre-Trammel...LOL
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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    I murdered a good friend several times in an MMORPG. 

    That same friend I shot him in the face in an FPS

    I also gibbed his entire body with a shotgun in third person shooter game.

    I can't even vocalize what I've done to him in Mortal Kombat 11 so I won't go there.
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  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,011
    Meridian 59, played a PK during beta just to see what it was like.  It felt awful the first time, but the challenge of being a known PK with only one character and combat available almost anywhere was very intense.  It was a new level of challenge.

    I did anti-PK (as a red) in UO, it depends on the game.   Merdian felt like "murder" though because there were very few PKs at the time and the group didn't expect it at all and was quite upset.
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  • Viper482Viper482 Member EpicPosts: 2,713
    edited June 14
    In Ultima Online Beta... there was a small fenced area of rabbits that were killable for skill gain.  I went in, shut the gate and started leveling up my sword skill on them.  

    This was when MMOs were brand new to most people, so folks would wander by and ask why I was in there and then sometimes join me.

    Being a little shit at the time (still a shit now, just bigger) I invited them in, shut the gate behind them and then murdered them in cold pixel blood.  People even tried to log out, but when they came back I was still there in my bunny slaughterhouse.  Funny seeing ghosts going OoOooOo  while I lure the next person into the cage...

    So yes, I have murdered in game. 

    Would I do that today?  No...  I'd hope not.  (and even if I wanted to my skills are pretty feeble)




    I myself was a PK in Ultima Online at the Crossroads right outside Brit....So yea im in the same boat...Had Red name during most of the time i played that game....That was of corse when it was Pre-Trammel...LOL

    I used to dress up my toon in newb clothes and go out there with my deadly poisoned katana. When a red would go to gank what they thought was a weak, helpless victim I would slice the shit out of them and the deadly poison took chunks of health off. Surprise! Good times. 

    Pre-trammel Catskills....
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,954
    Horusra said:
    Murder is a legal term for unlawful killing.  Is there a law in the game that says you can not kill a player?  If not then you have never "murdered" someone in a game.
    You know what, I think there is unlawful killing and  I am in fact, a "murderer."

    In EVE when fighting with your alliance, there is a "rule" that you don't shoot "blues", meaning your fellow allies when either fighting along side or coming across them in space.

    On two occasions I've been flying in an allied fleet and someone got extremely obnoxious, rude or worse condescending about my gameplay.

    Once the fighting started I waited for the proper moment when they were the enemies primary target and I suddenly target locked the offenders and killed them.

    Was worth every Isk I had to pay for "accidently" killing them and on occasion I've had to explain to a new Corp I'm trying to join that I'm really not an awoxer despite my "murders."

    ;)


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  • AAAMEOWAAAMEOW Member UncommonPosts: 1,099
    I don't PK people.  I do RvR and battleground, but not PK.

    Even in RvR when I see a lone enemy player, I usually let him go unless he attack me.
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  • HatefullHatefull Member EpicPosts: 2,181
    Amathe said:
    Hatefull said:

     most likely hunting that gold name. No worries dude, we got you.
    As a recent initiate I can vouch for the fact that the free beer, female attention, and nachos at our secret parties never ends. Brad McQuaid drops by periodically, always wanting to do shots and play Twister. Living the dream. 
    McQuaid stops by? Then I am glad I am not "in the club". However, with a title like OP used, what the fuck else do you call it? I mean seriously, there are like a hundred different ways to say that without the fake news shock value of murder. Honestly.


    Hatefull said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Your questions wording is odd and disturbing.
    I think I MMORPG murder is more fitting term for killing someone for no reason.  Consider that many times players will kill each other for the realm differentiating it is logical.  

    You know, have you killed player for no reason other than loot, malice, boredom or etc?
    Pretty easy to counter that with: Yes, I play PvP games. 

    But you wanted a click-bait title, most likely hunting that gold name. No worries dude, we got you.
    Lol. Clickbait? Considering most of us have probably killed hundreds to thousands of combatant in games you kind of have to differentiate what I was talking about.

    I don't even know what a gold name is.  I give zero about social accolades.
    Riiiiiight. Whatever dude.

    If you want a new idea, go read an old book.

  • DeadSpockDeadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 364
    I killed other players in WoW that had red name cause of attacking opposite sides npc but what was funny once I saw this Paladin horde red name same lv as me in front of my face he could not attack me I was nelf hunter started to down him quick and suddenly his invisible rogue friend killed me and didnt bother me instead was great strategy they used.
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