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Fallout 76: A Shot at Redemption?

SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 32,808

I was going to write about Elder Scrolls Online’s E3 announcements after BE3, but then the unexpected happened - Fallout 76 had the most interesting announcements from the online Bethesda games. Namely? Fallout 76 is adding actual NPCs, branching dialog, more quests, and a whole lot more in the next big update, Wastlanders. But, get this, they’re also adding a Battle Royale mode that will give you rewards to use in the main survival game too. I don’t even know what to think...

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  • XarkoXarko Member RarePosts: 1,060
    I don't think so, Tim.
    It's dead, Jim.
    Bye, Felicia.
    AndrewDiceClaymrputtsDMKanodoomexMisterZebubPyukNildenRockinw311BakgrindSamhaeland 8 others.
  • MisterZebubMisterZebub Member EpicPosts: 3,456
    Ooooooh! Undefined discussion subject! My favorite!

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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,693
    Well the cut backs didn't work, now it's time to follow the crowd. :/
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,054
    This game couldn't redeem itself if it came with complementary Bethesda-branded handjobs.
    XarkogunklackerAndrewDiceClayDMKanodoomexanemoConstantineMerusBakgrindSamhaelpsychosiz1and 4 others.
  • AndrewDiceClayAndrewDiceClay Member EpicPosts: 2,507
    edited June 10

    Aeander said:

    This game couldn't redeem itself if it came with complementary Bethesda-branded handjobs.



    Speak for yourself pal

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  • UthorUthor Member UncommonPosts: 12
    Yawn
    psychosiz1

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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 4,823
    Fallout 76 is already worth the price of admission now. I get people were burned and will continue to joke about the game but we were burned with FFXIV too.. and Diablo 3.. plus others, at first. They got flipped and so has this.

    It shouldn't go ftp. They have and will continue to give tons of content updates at no extra charge. It's more generous than most other games.

    I'd prefer they get rid of the hunger and thirst though.. pointless and constantly, mildly annoying. I think the game would be much, much better if they just admitted those 'features' are shit and ripped them out completely.
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 20,338
    No
    anemoNildenpsychosiz1Phry
  • PyukPyuk Member UncommonPosts: 746
    Preserve what made Fallout, Fallout???? Seriously? You mean like an isometric, single player RPG where choices matter within a deep, well written open ended story, and turn-based combat? Thank you, lead Fallout 76 designer guy, for indirectly admitting you have no clue what Fallout originally was. I really wish Larian would get the Fallout franchise. Bethesda designers couldn't hatch an original idea even with a direct stimpak to the head.
    AeanderGutlardTorvalRueTheWhirlTacticalZombehBaalzharonCelcius

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  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member UncommonPosts: 198
    Well they probably will change a lot inside fo76 if they want to survive, but seeing that eso was complete crap at launch, they might succeed changing fo76, but who knows.
  • AlverantAlverant Member RarePosts: 1,084
    So have they sent the canvas bags yet?
    NildenTokkenCelciusOscar1230
  • RhygarthRhygarth Member UncommonPosts: 254
    adding a stupid BR mode will not get me to try this pile of ....
    TokkenAshikuroCelciusOscar1230
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 2,671
    Yeah they shot redemption alright.
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 20,338
    edited June 10
    Alverant said:
    So have they sent the canvas bags yet?

    Yeah I think after all the public outrage they finally decided to do the right thing and send people what they paid for.

    But back to topic of redemption in video game industry - pretty much the only way to do it is to scrap and start from scratch like final fantasy 14 did.

    A bad launch and negative public opinion is pretty much impossible to recover from otherwise.

    All the kings horses and all the kings men could never fix Fallout76 again. They could rebuild it from scratch again given money and resources and time, which they dont have sadly 
    ConstantineMerusbcbullyCelcius
  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 2,972
    Well.  free trial starting today so I am going to check it out.  I always have the desire to try it and expect to get burned.  Smart move on their part. . and I think 50% off if you purchase.
    Tokken

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  • GutlardGutlard Member RarePosts: 589
    Aeander said:
    This game couldn't redeem itself if it came with complementary Bethesda-branded handjobs.
    If they say it was going to be a handjob, be prepared for it to be with a pirate's hook....

    Gut Out!
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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 2,820
    SIXTEEN TIMES THE REDEMPTION!! It just works.

    Country roads!!!



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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 2,820
    Oh hey they are adding NPCs. I mean WOW there is something to cheer about. 2019 and they are adding NPCs. Can't make that up. /wtf
    TokkenCelcius

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  • CygiCygi Member UncommonPosts: 168
    Fallout 76 review: 7/10.

    Never forget.
    DMKanopsychosiz1CryomatrixTokkenOG_Zorvan
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,054
    This game wouldn't have been good if they delayed it till '76. 
    ConstantineMerusDMKanoRueTheWhirlCelcius
  • Heatsink00Heatsink00 Member UncommonPosts: 54
    "We really understand our customers and the Fallout IP," said no one at Bethesda ever.
    Celcius
  • ArteriusArterius Member RarePosts: 919
    Yes. I know people hate on this game with a passion everywhere online but I play the game almost daily on the PS4 and their are constantly new players and the maps are constantly full of people with various lvls. The free week also has brought in quite a bit of players so much that it took a while to get on last night.

    The people who hate the game have a right to hate the game. Trust me. It took an iron will to stick with the game but its getting a lot better. I would say if they nail The Wastelanders update then yes it will redeem itself. They have to nail it though. Choices really do have to have lasting impact, NPC's have to feel like they do in classic Bethesda titles, etc... We shall see if they can do it. I have my doubts. 

    If they pull it off it can be the next No Mans Sky or ESO. I mean people to this day still hate on both games from being burned at launch. So it isn't unheard of happening. They just really need to buckle down, work hard, and release a great product this fall. Which I don't know if they are up to personally.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,054
    Gutlard said:
    Aeander said:
    This game couldn't redeem itself if it came with complementary Bethesda-branded handjobs.
    If they say it was going to be a handjob, be prepared for it to be with a pirate's hook....

    Gut Out!
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  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,558
    F76 despite popular belief is still filled with players. Wastelanders update will make it even better.
    TokkenCelcius
  • ElidienElidien Member RarePosts: 1,362
    Arterius said:
    Yes. I know people hate on this game with a passion everywhere online but I play the game almost daily on the PS4 and their are constantly new players and the maps are constantly full of people with various lvls. The free week also has brought in quite a bit of players so much that it took a while to get on last night.

    The people who hate the game have a right to hate the game. Trust me. It took an iron will to stick with the game but its getting a lot better. I would say if they nail The Wastelanders update then yes it will redeem itself. They have to nail it though. Choices really do have to have lasting impact, NPC's have to feel like they do in classic Bethesda titles, etc... We shall see if they can do it. I have my doubts. 

    If they pull it off it can be the next No Mans Sky or ESO. I mean people to this day still hate on both games from being burned at launch. So it isn't unheard of happening. They just really need to buckle down, work hard, and release a great product this fall. Which I don't know if they are up to personally.
    I agree with you. They made it easy and popular to hate 76. But I did see something pretty cool below all the issues and knew it needed time.

    I think they rushed it for some reason. Maybe just holiday sales or whatever but it was badly rushed. I would be curious to know why they felt the need. it was not rushed by a few weeks, it was rushed by months.

    To me, the second big issue was the fundamental design flaw of not building a social systems structure into the game....good chat, voice chat, guilds, clans, etc... It felt like they thought people would be cool to just come across each other and chat....with complete strangers? Sure, not going to happen. And then no push to talk....really?

    I think they need solid "clan" organization - even just a broad system like Ark or Atlas or even Destiny. I feel like a loner in the world and I WANT to join others and have fun but I want to be able to control and shape that experience and not have it be random.
    ArteriusMichiel
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