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Publishers pull their games from Epic Big Sale

TEKK3NTEKK3N Member RarePosts: 719
It's getting from bad to worse for the Epic Store.
Apparently Epic forgot to ask publishers if they wanted to opt in the Big Sale, and some of them pulled their games from the store while the sale was already going on.


This is probably the first big crack in what I predict will be a failure of epic proportion (pun intended) for the Epic store.
As I predicted some time ago, as soon as publishers see that the sales are not coming in, they will pull out from the store all together.
This is just the first sign of it.

Long live Steam.


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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 9,775
    edited May 19
    This is so strange lol. 

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  • ArteriusArterius Member EpicPosts: 1,858
    They were pulled into the sale was over. I do agree that Epic is terrible but their only sin was not asking publishers if they wanted their games on sale or not. Which is dumb but nothing that I see being a problem down the line.
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  • TEKK3NTEKK3N Member RarePosts: 719
    What amuses me is the fact that people think that $10 is such a great deal.

    Steam has 2 Big Sales each week.
    One during the week and another for the week end.

    And usually discounts rates goes from 20% up til 80%.
    This week end they have several sale packages:
    1) Post Apocalyptic week end (18 games: Fallout 4 at £9.99 = 50% off))
    2) Publisher Weekend: Bohemia Interactive  (up to 80% off)
    3) Publisher Weekend: Tripwire Publisher (50%-70% off)
    4) Publisher Weekend: Dovetail Publisher (up to 70% off)
    3) Bits and bobs (No Man's Sky at £19.99 = 50% discount)

    Say what you like but Steam is good for gaming and gamers in general.
    Maybe Steam is bad for AAA publishers margin (because of the 30% fees), but who cares?
    And the publishers don't seem to complain that much either.

    Can't wait for the Ubisoft weekend sales when they move their games to Steam.


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  • TEKK3NTEKK3N Member RarePosts: 719
    edited May 19
    Arterius said:
    They were pulled into the sale was over. I do agree that Epic is terrible but their only sin was not asking publishers if they wanted their games on sale or not. Which is dumb but nothing that I see being a problem down the line.
    The problem is that Epic Stores won't bring enough revenues to justify most games being sold there, this is the first sign that some publishers are uneasy with the Epic Store and its practices.
    Keep in mind Epic have the exclusive on most of those games, so if they don't sell there, they won't sell anywhere else.

    Epic is a tiny store compare to Steam, and they are not able to offer the same value for money Steam offers on a weekly basis.
    See my post above.
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  • adam_noxadam_nox Member UncommonPosts: 2,120
    TEKK3N said:
    What amuses me is the fact that people think that $10 is such a great deal.

    Steam has 2 Big Sales each week.
    One during the week and another for the week end.

    And usually discounts rates goes from 20% up til 80%.
    This week end they have several sale packages:
    1) Post Apocalyptic week end (18 games: Fallout 4 at £9.99 = 50% off))
    2) Publisher Weekend: Bohemia Interactive  (up to 80% off)
    3) Publisher Weekend: Tripwire Publisher (50%-70% off)
    4) Publisher Weekend: Dovetail Publisher (up to 70% off)
    3) Bits and bobs (No Man's Sky at £19.99 = 50% discount)

    Say what you like but Steam is good for gaming and gamers in general.
    Maybe Steam is bad for AAA publishers margin (because of the 30% fees), but who cares?
    And the publishers don't seem to complain that much either.

    Can't wait for the Ubisoft weekend sales when they move their games to Steam.


    None of those are deals. FO4 has been 10 dollars forever, NMS even lower than 20 for a long while. Steam is garbage.
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  • TEKK3NTEKK3N Member RarePosts: 719
    edited May 19
    adam_nox said:
    TEKK3N said:



    None of those are deals. FO4 has been 10 dollars forever, NMS even lower than 20 for a long while. Steam is garbage.
    They have 100 games on sale this weekend only, which ones are not a deal?
    All of them or just the 2 you quoted?
    The deal is that you have thousands of games that get discounted every year, sooner or later.
    You are missing the big picture.

    Maybe you think that way because almost the entire Steam catalogue get discounted at least twice a year, and some games like Fallout 4 gets discounted at least 3 times every year.
    I check Steam prices every week and 80% of the time they sell full price.
    I have a long whishlist of games, I always keep an eye on prices, and when they get discounted I snapped them up.

    I never buy their games full price, because I know they will get discounted sooner or later.
    Because of that I have a huge gaming library. Most games I never even played yet, but when you see them at £4.99 or less what can you do?

    Last week they had Pathfinder: The Kingmaker at 40% discount and Civilization VI at 65% discount just to name a couple.
    But each week there are some great deals.

    Only downside of Steam is that not always they have the latest games.
    But if you are an avid gamer and you want a big library at a reasonable price, Steam is the place.
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  • Prime_DirectivePrime_Directive Member RarePosts: 1,322
    My question is, why does it matter in the great scheme of life what publishers do ? 
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    edited May 19
    Rookie mistake by Epic, but it's only two titles (afaik), and only one is worth noting (Bloodlines 2, the other is an indie game that isn't currently very popular).

    Could it be any more obvious how surprisingly little businesses seem to learn from the mistakes of their competitors?
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  • Sal1Sal1 Member UncommonPosts: 333
    Steam needs competition. Any business without real competition just sits on there laurels and raises prices.
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  • anemoanemo Member RarePosts: 1,748
    I hope Epic does enough to get Valve to wake up.

    The most recent gamer culturally related thing they've done is make Artifact.   They've been so successful just sitting on store income, that they haven't needed to really even try at anything else.

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  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 6,088
    TEKK3N said:
    What amuses me is the fact that people think that $10 is such a great deal.

    Steam has 2 Big Sales each week.
    One during the week and another for the week end.

    And usually discounts rates goes from 20% up til 80%.
    This week end they have several sale packages:
    1) Post Apocalyptic week end (18 games: Fallout 4 at £9.99 = 50% off))
    2) Publisher Weekend: Bohemia Interactive  (up to 80% off)
    3) Publisher Weekend: Tripwire Publisher (50%-70% off)
    4) Publisher Weekend: Dovetail Publisher (up to 70% off)
    3) Bits and bobs (No Man's Sky at £19.99 = 50% discount)

    Say what you like but Steam is good for gaming and gamers in general.
    Maybe Steam is bad for AAA publishers margin (because of the 30% fees), but who cares?
    And the publishers don't seem to complain that much either.

    Can't wait for the Ubisoft weekend sales when they move their games to Steam.


    You forgot the Games Workshop Skulls sale / event and the DnD sale.

    Also, I wouldn't hold my breath for Ubi titles on Steam. They have their own platform after all(uplay).
  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 7,989
    It's like Epic thought it was still  the 2000s still and we were in the midst of the dotcom boom.


  • mbrodiembrodie Member RarePosts: 1,467
    TEKK3N said:
    What amuses me is the fact that people think that $10 is such a great deal.

    Steam has 2 Big Sales each week.
    One during the week and another for the week end.

    And usually discounts rates goes from 20% up til 80%.
    This week end they have several sale packages:
    1) Post Apocalyptic week end (18 games: Fallout 4 at £9.99 = 50% off))
    2) Publisher Weekend: Bohemia Interactive  (up to 80% off)
    3) Publisher Weekend: Tripwire Publisher (50%-70% off)
    4) Publisher Weekend: Dovetail Publisher (up to 70% off)
    3) Bits and bobs (No Man's Sky at £19.99 = 50% discount)

    Say what you like but Steam is good for gaming and gamers in general.
    Maybe Steam is bad for AAA publishers margin (because of the 30% fees), but who cares?
    And the publishers don't seem to complain that much either.

    Can't wait for the Ubisoft weekend sales when they move their games to Steam.



    if you're going to make claims at least make them credible.

    $10 off any game over $14.99 with some titles upto 75% off storewide
    you don't have to like epic, but at least don't post false information.



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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 5,413
    2 games' pages now return a "404 error" and the sky is falling?
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  • mbrodiembrodie Member RarePosts: 1,467
    AlBQuirky said:
    2 games' pages now return a "404 error" and the sky is falling?
    no.. people just want it to fail so badly they cling to anything they can get
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 21,174
    edited May 20
    Epic is not making much from selling other companies titles at all.

    Their cash cow is Fortnite and engine licensing. 

    The store was more of an experiment to keep Steam in check - I doubt that Epic store in current iteration will stick around longterm mostly due to it not making so much money to justify keeping it around.

    After a while they will revert to just having Epic titles there and it will be just a launcher and patcher and not a 3rd party store front


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  • XiaokiXiaoki Member RarePosts: 3,255
    mbrodie said:
    AlBQuirky said:
    2 games' pages now return a "404 error" and the sky is falling?
    no.. people just want it to fail so badly they cling to anything they can get
    Like pretending Oxygen Not Included is a major release.

    Or conveniently forgetting that the publisher of Vampire Masquerade has already said that the game will be back.

    Yeah, the Steam fanboys are a funny lot.
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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member RarePosts: 1,106
    DMKano said:
    Epic is not making much from selling other companies titles at all.

    Their cash cow is Fortnite and engine licensing. 

    The store was more of an experiment to keep Steam in check - I doubt that Epic store in current iteration will stick around longterm mostly due to it not making so much money to justify keeping it around.

    After a while they will revert to just having Epic titles there and it will be just a launcher and patcher and not a 3rd party store front


    I don't think talking profits of their store at this time is even something that should be considered. They're spending money to get it growing, so naturally there wont be any profits, but 12% is more than enough to support a store that once complete doesn't need to do much of anything to maintain it. 

    I think if they slow down a bit, fix their issues and implement the rest of the features before they screw up again then it's going to be a hit. Most people don't care and are going to get games wherever they have to. People seem to forget that the ones paying attention are only a fraction of the gaming market. That's why MMOs are going to shit and that's why Mobile games are blowing up despite the "actual gamers" hating them.
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  • Prime_DirectivePrime_Directive Member RarePosts: 1,322
    edited May 20
    Publishers do stuff #woah . When all publishers stop doing stuff, might be a conversattion there.
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  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 7,989
    Publishers do stuff #woah . When all publishers stop doing stuff, might be a conversattion there.
    Well whenever it does happen, I'm sure @delete5230 will be there to point it out, over and over and over and over.............................. and over again
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,660
    DMKano said:
    Epic is not making much from selling other companies titles at all.

    Their cash cow is Fortnite and engine licensing. 

    The store was more of an experiment to keep Steam in check - I doubt that Epic store in current iteration will stick around longterm mostly due to it not making so much money to justify keeping it around.

    After a while they will revert to just having Epic titles there and it will be just a launcher and patcher and not a 3rd party store front
    I think streaming services are going to radically change how we game and soon we'll think about this like the long distance wars of the nineties. I don't think people will even buy games like this anymore. We'll just pay for our streaming services in a package that includes games and movies/tv. Epic will end up being a channel you rent like HBO for GoT.
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 16,450
    This is really sad for gamer's and the business of gaming.Steam should not own a monopoly on the store front,there should be several entities offering games.
    As it stands now ,Steam has become so big that everyone else has to offer incentives and bargains/deals to compete in the marketplace.
    Steam is not even run well,there is literally ZERO support,a steadfast SIMPLE refund policy and a boat load of really bad crappy games.I would say you could filter out 95% of Steam and be left with 5% as playable games.

    WE are seeing first hand the problem with allowing Steam to get so big,everyone else is just going to copy Steam but offer incentives to the developers but nothing for gamer's.

    You want to put Steam out of business,start running the store front properly,offer support to ALL games you sell and don't become a haven for 10,000 real shitty games that take up space and make searching for games very tiresome.
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  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337
    The move was made by 3 publishers, that I'm aware of, and it's not related to specific titles. These publishers removed their games from the store as the only way to opt out of this discount. The pages will be reinstated after the discount is over.
    The three publishers I know of are:
    • Ubisoft
    • Paradox
    • 2K games
    There is already another thread on the matter, where I elaborated a bit more on the possible reasons those publishers chose to opt out of this particular discount.

    Why was Steam mixed in this whole discussion? You can get a 10% discount on any game in the Ubisoft digital store by spending 100 points of their points gained by playing the games. It's another unique discount method, yet again it would be odd to mention Steam as somewhat relevant to it.
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  • AAAMEOWAAAMEOW Member UncommonPosts: 1,095
    I'm not a fan on paying 30% commission to google playstore, apple store, or steam.

    The OP seemed like it though.
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