They have been able to put together promotions 12 out of the last 15 months (all of which is beyond when they said they would continue with the store), yet they can't launch a map selection system even 6 months after their initial projections.
How is this not criminal at this point?
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So I think it's ridiculous, but it takes two to tango. Some people waste money on hookers and drugs. Some people want to fund Caspien's fantasy... I stopped trying to understand why people do things.
But if I were them (I'm not), I wouldn't be as worried about the money that was raised, or the money that was left, but rather how much more time and cash will their pockets get fleeced to get this thing "launched".
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Just don’t mention it anymore! If you don’t give new dates you can’t miss them! Genius!
It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
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Which is a bit weird when you think of it.
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I would rather something like the SC timeline "This is what we were working on, this is what we have finished. This is what's next in line". Then showing off whatever was completed. Would seem like true progress was getting made.
Whichever way you pick from above, nothing is shown off either way. Well the only time anything is shown off, is through the promos.
People have asked that SBS stop giving dates out until the feature is ready so that they stop missing them.
I agree with torrsk's suggestion, give a general idea of what is being worked on since it is better to not give a target date, than to give one and miss it.
And Star Citizen does actually post a timeline by quarter: https://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/roadmap/board/1-Star-Citizen
That somewhat works for SC because all backers have been playing the game for years. Will CoE allow all backers into the game tomorrow to see their “progress”?
But do we really want to use StarCitizen as the model to follow? Seriously?
The point is that when a company that has taken your money (and refuses to refund it even though they are years late) continues to miss their own dates even when given just 7 days lead time, some people see the solution as simply not giving dates. That’s a suggestion to help prevent PR blowback, but does not address the root issue which is their fucked up planning and development schedule.
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Still and as always, I hope we get a good game out of this in spite of the management, I am sure the guys on the shop floor are doing their bit.
These folks were literally in a frenzy frenzy to spend MORE money to move up the list so that they could pick their non-existent virtual land parcel before the other people. Think about that, they were and are throwing money to get higher on the selection list when the land they want to select not only doesn’t exist in game, but not even on a map yet!
I said it before but if people want wanted to pay $6M to me so I could spend it with no oversight or accountability I’d have sales every week. Looking at the above title I’d say 12 sales in 15 months means Caspien left 3 months of sales on the table.
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But occasionally he does take something out of context to help validate his point even if that's wrong. This is a rarity but in this case I feel it need to be brought up.
You see in this case he claims its the Ivory Tower wanting to Bury their head in the sand where actually its nothing to do with that.
All those that called for dates to be only announced when the work was finished are calling for it because
1) alot took time off work for their selection
2) they are sick of unrealistic deadlines
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
As I said earlier, people are asking them to follow Star Citizen. Setting aside the whole absurdity of using SC as a model for anything other than raising money, even Star Citizen gives a very detailed quarterly roadmap. The most important part of that is the first column which shows what was actually released to the players. Every backer gets to play the game as it exists and has for years. Is CoE going to do the same?
Simply not releasing dates with no other actions is exactly like putting your head in the sand. And just as useful when it comes to getting this thing to release. I’d argue it actually hurts because now it removes what little pressure there was to get this thing done.
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(Legal) Hookers is just honest entertainment business as old as time, though.
CoA meanwhile is just an illusion scamming (even if probably not on purpose) people out of their money for something that will (highly probably) never come to fruition (and the guys roleplaying as developers probably realize this but hey, people keep giving them money so...).
You will just get people ranting/trolling how long x feature takes to make or how long since last feature was finished, how progress is slow etc. etc.
You can't stop human beings from being self entitled idiots....
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