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Valve Reveals Details on the New Index Headset - MMORPG.com News

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,126
edited April 2019 in News & Features Discussion

imageValve Reveals Details on the New Index Headset - MMORPG.com News

The day has finally come and Valve has released concrete details on their hotly anticipated virtual reality headset. It's been three years since the HTC Vive hit the market and we have confirmation that the company's first completely in-house HMD will open for pre-orders tomorrow, May 1st will begin shipping on July 1st.

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  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 2,958
    This looks very exciting. I've never tried VR before but I think it would be great if it develops well.
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  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,569
    A lot of my friends who are super into VR are getting this, looks like Valve is impressing the current market. Not sure how it will fare for people who aren't in the market yet, as the entry price is still extremely high.
  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 8,873
    edited April 2019


    A lot of my friends who are super into VR are getting this, looks like Valve is impressing the current market. Not sure how it will fare for people who aren't in the market yet, as the entry price is still extremely high.



    Yeah $999.00 for full kit is still more than I would be willing to pay to get into VR. I could buy a lot of games for that. The headset seems like it would only be nice for games you can use a steam or xb controller in, still a bit steep.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 28,609

    Tiller said:





    A lot of my friends who are super into VR are getting this, looks like Valve is impressing the current market. Not sure how it will fare for people who aren't in the market yet, as the entry price is still extremely high.






    Yeah $999.00 for full kit is still more than I would be willing to pay to get into VR. I could buy a lot of games for that. The headset seems like it would only be nice for games you can use a steam or xb controller in, still a bit steep.



    I would also say, being someone who owns an HTC Vive, to try out their system before buying it.

    The HTC Vive is great but I can only do it for short amounts of time before I get nauseous. Maybe they've worked to mitigate that, who knows, but no reason to spend a lot of money for something you'll rarely use if money is a concern.
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  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 8,873
    Sovrath said:

    Tiller said:





    A lot of my friends who are super into VR are getting this, looks like Valve is impressing the current market. Not sure how it will fare for people who aren't in the market yet, as the entry price is still extremely high.






    Yeah $999.00 for full kit is still more than I would be willing to pay to get into VR. I could buy a lot of games for that. The headset seems like it would only be nice for games you can use a steam or xb controller in, still a bit steep.



    I would also say, being someone who owns an HTC Vive, to try out their system before buying it.

    The HTC Vive is great but I can only do it for short amounts of time before I get nauseous. Maybe they've worked to mitigate that, who knows, but no reason to spend a lot of money for something you'll rarely use if money is a concern.
    Have you tried Sea-bands? They help with motion sickness. VR messes with your senses. Your eyes see movement, but you body senses none, your brain sends message to your stomach that your might be poisoned so end result is nausea. Definitely check them out if you haven't already.
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  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 2,958
    I'll do my usual. 

    Wait for reviews to come out, check it out before buying, and then wait for a sale . . .then if all checks out, I buy it. 
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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 3,222
    edited April 2019
    Not effing available in Canada......oh looks like there's a pre order timer...maybe the not available in your country will change once the count down is done....


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  • Jamar870Jamar870 Member UncommonPosts: 457
    Still need a "robust" system to support it?
  • DauzqulDauzqul Member RarePosts: 1,980
    VR is a LOT of fun. However, it will only take off if this actually becomes affordable to the mass.
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  • LokeroLokero Member RarePosts: 1,514
    I like it, but I'm not sure that I like it enough to throw $1000 at it.  I figured it'd be $800+ again, since they have all those sensors and such, but it's still disappointing.

    With the price point, most developers just aren't going to bother.  What I mean is, the individual finger-tracking, while awesome, will just be a gimmick.  I don't see developers doing anything with that, really.
    Since the cheaper devices like the Oculus series coming out will be more common and widespread, the unique features will just not be utilized much.
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 3,222
    edited April 2019
    Dunno if some people don't realize that the 999$ USD price tag  is for one Headset, two controllers and two base stations for tracking.

    You can however buy parts piecemeal.


    Also what the big deal about the software or AAA games...it runs off steamVR and you can run off linux if you want to avoid windows 10.

    I do admit I was hoping the pricing for the kit would be a little lower though.

    1340$ CAD is a tad steep especially considering we will get reamed with markup so it will most likely be more like 1500$CAD

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  • LokeroLokero Member RarePosts: 1,514
    Sadly, still no official announcement of the VR game they supposedly have coming out alongside it.  The one that is rumored to be a Half-Life VR.
    I imagine they'll announce that very soon to help move orders.

    Mind you, the rumor was a Half-life 2 prequel, not a HL3.  Also, still no announcement of what the other 2 VR games Valve is developing are.
  • dinogndinogn Member UncommonPosts: 33
    edited April 2019
    Why do they insist so much on the 20° more than Htc/oculus? They never tell you even on the offcicial website the real FoV. HTC fov is 110°, so Valve's should be 130°... wich is not much of a difference.
  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 8,873
    Asm0deus said:
    Dunno if some people don't realize that the 999$ USD price tag  is for one Headset, two controllers and two base stations for tracking.


    I did notice that, but I'm one of those people who feel like I'm missing out on something unless I buy the full experience.

    I'll just keep an eye on it. I wasn't interested in Vive, but this looks interesting and may actually help drive development good VR titles, which is part of the reason I've never gotten on board, all the games looked crap.
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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 3,222
    edited April 2019
    dinogn said:
    Why do they insist so much on the 20° more than Htc/oculus? They never tell you even on the offcicial website the real FoV. HTC fov is 110°, so Valve's should be 130°... wich is not much of a difference.
    They are covering their asses is why.

    It give 20 degrees more IF you don't wear glasses.  The extra FOV is due to two things.

    1. The screens are not flat in front of your face anymore but angled, kind of like the pimax, to 5 degrees.  This increases your FOV some.

    2. They made it so you can move the screen closer to your face (eyeballs) or further away if you need to make room for glasses.  When it's close to your face (no room for glasses) this increases your FOV some.  If you have glasses or set it further away from your face you don't necessarily get the increased FOV.


    In essence you you don't wear glasses and keep the screen close to your eyeballs you will go from 110 degrees FOV to 130 degrees FOV but if you set it differently you wont get that exactly.
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  • ZenislavZenislav Member UncommonPosts: 165
    Half Life 3 confirmed
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 3,222
    edited April 2019
    I just read it has godray issues.  I believe the VivePro had this too but that is fixed with a (mod) lens swap..


    While Valve’s dual-element optics might be focused on a wide field of view and large sweet spot, it seems to have come at the cost of an increase in internal reflections (god rays). Moderately high contrast scenes cause significant glare which unfortunately detracts from the other benefits in clarity.

    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • Warhawke80Warhawke80 Member RarePosts: 301
    VR is going to struggle until they get it through their thick skulls that not everyone can stand and hop around like an idiot...and even those who can don't want to after busting their asses for 12 hours at their jobs.

    When legacy games where you can sit down and play are more viable via Vorpx than the VR centric games being produced you have an issue with logic.
  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 1,895
    Most people's comments throughout the web are very disappointed in the price and plan to buy other things. It's going to be quite a niche product and IMO the feature list doesn't do the price justice
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  • iixviiiixiixviiiix Member RarePosts: 2,131
    edited May 2019
    After used few of those like go and rift , i think right now i want a 3DoF HMD headset with game pad and touch screen control that can be use to play PC contents.
    And if it cheaper than $199 then it's a deal for me .

    I want something to replace mouse control while still have mouse control calculation .
    I want something that i can sit comfortable using it , not stand up and swing my arms .
    Do i need to use my body to avoid bullet and weapon ? no , i don't need , my body not super human
    Do i want to use my hand to change the magazines ? no i don't want to .

    i understand that VR can be use for more things that not gaming entertainment .
    But as a casual user , i want something that can be use to play old PC contents like FPS games

    I don't need 6DoF or hand tracking .
    3DoF HMD and mouse control replacement is all i need for a headset. Sadly after nearly 7 years of VR development , there are no headset like that out of the market .


  • SirAgravaineSirAgravaine Member RarePosts: 520
    edited May 2019
    Does this site even have an editor to review articles? Proofread your articles before you hit submit, please.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 13,307
    What about the weight on the head and the headaches people say they get after a couple of hours. That's what's holding VR back.

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  • anemoanemo Member RarePosts: 1,894
    This still needs Valve to release some competent games for VR to be able to make it viable, not agonizing Hearthstone clones.

    TBH it's tempting to get these.   Since I loved my Oculus for the half year I was willing to tolerate Facebook spyware with Admin permissions on my PC.  Echo Arena as zeroG rugby was pretty awesome to play, and beat saber as a check this out game for friends was awesome as well.

    Though two games for continuous play and a short story game every 3 months was "okish" for the price of admission for me.   Though far from recommendable  for most.  (Did lose something like 10 pounds).

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  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    edited May 2019
    I'll ask the question every guy here really wants to know, But how's the Porn on these ?! Are my hands free ? These controllers look cumbersome
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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,025
    I own a PSVR that I got on a special and I don't play it that often, I don't know that I really would if I got this because the games just aren't as good as their flat counterparts, at least not good enough to justify 1k price tag.  If there were tons of incredible games then maybe I would consider it but....meh.  
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