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The Witcher Netflix series will debut in late-2019

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 14,309
    Scot said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Not sure how this is going to turn out, I have misgivings tbh...they seem to be letting the whole SJW thing interfere with the lore. 

    It's starting to remind me of the Charmed reboot, which is frankly a simply awful show.
    "SJW" is such a trendy social-mediaish way to describe what has always been and will always be the way with any narrative reflecting the social and political views of the authors.

    I get that sometimes it's forced and that looks stupid but that is not a new thing and there have always been shitty story tellers as well as good ones.

    I'll reserve judgement until I have seen the series. It could be good with a "moral of the story" light touch or it could be stupidly heavy-handed. We shall see.
    If it's anything like that new steam punk themed animation where it seems Westerners are evil monsters, it will be heavy handed. Too much of Netflix is now.
    Which one? I normally like steam punk stuff but I must have missed that one.
    It's a Turn of the century animation that takes place in.......I want to say Hong Kong or some such place. It has spiritualists and demons and magi-tech. It looks otherwise half decent, but the English Colonials all being portrayed as evil monsters was a bit too heavy handed for my taste.

    I think it's called Love and Robots.
    That was just one episode of Love and Robots a very good series. But as soon as I realised that story was going to feature the British Empire I yawned in expectation of the caricature that it turned out to be. But don't let that put you of the series.
    Yeah that was an awesome series. Very imaginative animation.
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  • CaffynatedCaffynated Member RarePosts: 753
    Sovrath said:
    Well that's what I'm saying. If I'm writing about Feudal Japan then "I'm writing about Feudal Japan" and race would matter. I'm not going to write about Feudal Japan being entirely populated by the Spanish.



    If I write a murder mystery it could have everyone black or everyone white or everyone a nice coffee color.

    But if I write a murder mystery "specifically" set in old Persia or South Africa, then that is going to take into account the people. If I write a fantasy story then quite frankly I don't care how tan or pale the people are. Or light green.

    The Witcher is the Polish Lord of the Rings. It's set in a fantasy Poland similar to how Kislev is fantasy Russia in Warhammer, and is about the people and myths of Poland. It makes about as much sense to replace white characters in The Witcher as it would to have a white actor play the Shogun in a feudal Japan fantasy.
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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 7,028
    Sovrath said:
    Well that's what I'm saying. If I'm writing about Feudal Japan then "I'm writing about Feudal Japan" and race would matter. I'm not going to write about Feudal Japan being entirely populated by the Spanish.



    If I write a murder mystery it could have everyone black or everyone white or everyone a nice coffee color.

    But if I write a murder mystery "specifically" set in old Persia or South Africa, then that is going to take into account the people. If I write a fantasy story then quite frankly I don't care how tan or pale the people are. Or light green.

    The Witcher is the Polish Lord of the Rings. It's set in a fantasy Poland similar to how Kislev is fantasy Russia in Warhammer, and is about the people and myths of Poland. It makes about as much sense to replace white characters in The Witcher as it would to have a white actor play the Shogun in a feudal Japan fantasy.
    Can you imagine if the Last Samurai was a white dude? Oh wait! I mean they did a great job of incorporating him into the story, but this is what Hollywood does.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 28,398
    Sovrath said:
    Well that's what I'm saying. If I'm writing about Feudal Japan then "I'm writing about Feudal Japan" and race would matter. I'm not going to write about Feudal Japan being entirely populated by the Spanish.



    If I write a murder mystery it could have everyone black or everyone white or everyone a nice coffee color.

    But if I write a murder mystery "specifically" set in old Persia or South Africa, then that is going to take into account the people. If I write a fantasy story then quite frankly I don't care how tan or pale the people are. Or light green.

    The Witcher is the Polish Lord of the Rings. It's set in a fantasy Poland similar to how Kislev is fantasy Russia in Warhammer, and is about the people and myths of Poland. It makes about as much sense to replace white characters in The Witcher as it would to have a white actor play the Shogun in a feudal Japan fantasy.
    I agree. But when the creator of the work allows it then that's pretty much it.

    I don't care what lore nerds say when the creator of any work is still alive and can still alter his/her work.

    After the fact? Depends on what is documented, what author/creator has said.

    I mean we know there were Black People in Europe during the Renaissance and most were not high up in Society, with a few odd exceptions (see Medici).

    but just because Tolkien wrote from his European perspective and everyone is white except for the easterlings or whatever they are called, doesn't mean that Andrzej Sapkowski's white Witcher world has to stay a white witcher world if he's ok with it. As it seems he is.

    Like I said, I'm more on the side of the creator of a work and being a creator of many works, I know that I have adapted and changed things along the way for one reason or another. And if someone changed something I didn't like I'd say stop and if someone changed something and persuaded me of its merit I'd give it my blessing.



  • CaffynatedCaffynated Member RarePosts: 753
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    Well that's what I'm saying. If I'm writing about Feudal Japan then "I'm writing about Feudal Japan" and race would matter. I'm not going to write about Feudal Japan being entirely populated by the Spanish.



    If I write a murder mystery it could have everyone black or everyone white or everyone a nice coffee color.

    But if I write a murder mystery "specifically" set in old Persia or South Africa, then that is going to take into account the people. If I write a fantasy story then quite frankly I don't care how tan or pale the people are. Or light green.

    The Witcher is the Polish Lord of the Rings. It's set in a fantasy Poland similar to how Kislev is fantasy Russia in Warhammer, and is about the people and myths of Poland. It makes about as much sense to replace white characters in The Witcher as it would to have a white actor play the Shogun in a feudal Japan fantasy.
    I agree. But when the creator of the work allows it then that's pretty much it.

    I don't care what lore nerds say when the creator of any work is still alive and can still alter his/her work.

    After the fact? Depends on what is documented, what author/creator has said.

    I mean we know there were Black People in Europe during the Renaissance and most were not high up in Society, with a few odd exceptions (see Medici).

    but just because Tolkien wrote from his European perspective and everyone is white except for the easterlings or whatever they are called, doesn't mean that Andrzej Sapkowski's white Witcher world has to stay a white witcher world if he's ok with it. As it seems he is.

    Like I said, I'm more on the side of the creator of a work and being a creator of many works, I know that I have adapted and changed things along the way for one reason or another. And if someone changed something I didn't like I'd say stop and if someone changed something and persuaded me of its merit I'd give it my blessing.



    The only comment I can find from him on the subject isn't endorsing race swapping the main characters. He said he supports the show portraying the diversity that is in The Witcher universe, which I take to mean portraying characters like Tea and Vea from Zerrikania.



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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,102
    edited April 2019
    Rhoklaw said:
    Sovrath said:
    Well that's what I'm saying. If I'm writing about Feudal Japan then "I'm writing about Feudal Japan" and race would matter. I'm not going to write about Feudal Japan being entirely populated by the Spanish.



    If I write a murder mystery it could have everyone black or everyone white or everyone a nice coffee color.

    But if I write a murder mystery "specifically" set in old Persia or South Africa, then that is going to take into account the people. If I write a fantasy story then quite frankly I don't care how tan or pale the people are. Or light green.

    The Witcher is the Polish Lord of the Rings. It's set in a fantasy Poland similar to how Kislev is fantasy Russia in Warhammer, and is about the people and myths of Poland. It makes about as much sense to replace white characters in The Witcher as it would to have a white actor play the Shogun in a feudal Japan fantasy.
    Can you imagine if the Last Samurai was a white dude? Oh wait! I mean they did a great job of incorporating him into the story, but this is what Hollywood does.
    Ken Watanabe gave an absolutely incredible performance in that role.  Such screen presence... he absolutely dominated Cruise in that film. So the analogy is not correct.  It would have been quite wrong for Cruise to play Katsumodo in that film and that would really have been analogous to what we are discussing here.  It would have been wrong and ham-fisted there, same as here.

    And to me... the worst part is NOT that they just would put out an open casting call and well, if they had a great actress that was a bit different from the part then they find a way to work it in.  Nope.  That's not what happened.  Instead, they put out a call for a specific race which was different form the character as written and previously portrayed... meaning they just wanted to check a box.   

    Back to your analogy:  It would have been very bad if they just put out a casting call and ended up with a white guy playing Katsumodo.   It would have been a travesty if they specifically went looking for one.  And that is the equivalent of what happened here.  

    By the way, I think it's an absolute shame that Watanabe never gained more fame and greater roles.  I always envisioned him as the perfect Captain of a Starfleet vessel.  Not a recast Capt Kirk, but his own character, on his own vessel.   Instead, he's typecast in Godzilla and Pokemon movies.   THAT is a shame and an utter waste of talent.

    So to me, the correct discussion would be around creating new stories and characters that involve varying races, sexes, colors, religions whatever.  NOT that we should ever retcon previous work to force checking a box.


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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 3,188
    edited April 2019
    I did more research and it appears we have focused too much on the uproar...and that even Lauren Schmidt Hissrich was putting oil on the fire as the bame casting seems to have not been true, I mean if it wasn't why didn't she just say so?

    Can't help but wonder if this drama was intentional.

    Ciri is being played by Freya Allan

    That said looking at IMDB has me pretty satisfied with the cast except for Cavill..I don't think he will make a good witcher just because I am not convinced he can pull off the witcher attitude or vibe plus he looks like a badly made legolas  at least in the shot seen so far...


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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 3,188
    edited April 2019
    From head up... does not look like Geralt:




    Really looks like Geralt:

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 28,398
    edited April 2019
    Asm0deus said:
    From head up... does not look like Geralt:




    Really looks like Geralt:

    Cavil is just too pretty boy. He'd be better as Legolas' older and more troubled brother.
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 3,188
    Sovrath said:
    Asm0deus said:
    From head up... does not look like Geralt:




    Really looks like Geralt:

    Cavil is just too pretty boy. He'd be better as Legolas' older and more troubled brother.
    Yes exactly that...it's why I like him so much as superman.  He can look serious but all the while keep that goody goody attitude or vibe which is why I am not sure he can pull off the witcher anti-hero esque attitude.


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  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 28,398
    Xasapis said:
    How did you put Henry Cavil's face on my body?!?!?!
    Scot
  • MendelMendel Member EpicPosts: 3,815
    Despite all the tangents into other movies, video games do not have a very solid standing as source material for filmed works.  (See Super Mario Brothers (1983) if you dare.)  I'll hope that this production is good, but won't put anything of value at risk.



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  • xD_GamingxD_Gaming Member EpicPosts: 2,570
    Sovrath said:
    Asm0deus said:
    From head up... does not look like Geralt:




    Really looks like Geralt:

    Cavil is just too pretty boy. He'd be better as Legolas' older and more troubled brother.
    most likely will have cgi eyes.. and other cgi effects to push him into the role. They did a decent job with Death Note. I would expect the same level of detail for the Witcher.
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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 7,028
    edited April 2019
    Rhoklaw said:
    Sovrath said:
    Well that's what I'm saying. If I'm writing about Feudal Japan then "I'm writing about Feudal Japan" and race would matter. I'm not going to write about Feudal Japan being entirely populated by the Spanish.



    If I write a murder mystery it could have everyone black or everyone white or everyone a nice coffee color.

    But if I write a murder mystery "specifically" set in old Persia or South Africa, then that is going to take into account the people. If I write a fantasy story then quite frankly I don't care how tan or pale the people are. Or light green.

    The Witcher is the Polish Lord of the Rings. It's set in a fantasy Poland similar to how Kislev is fantasy Russia in Warhammer, and is about the people and myths of Poland. It makes about as much sense to replace white characters in The Witcher as it would to have a white actor play the Shogun in a feudal Japan fantasy.
    Can you imagine if the Last Samurai was a white dude? Oh wait! I mean they did a great job of incorporating him into the story, but this is what Hollywood does.
    Ken Watanabe gave an absolutely incredible performance in that role.  Such screen presence... he absolutely dominated Cruise in that film. So the analogy is not correct.  It would have been quite wrong for Cruise to play Katsumodo in that film and that would really have been analogous to what we are discussing here.  It would have been wrong and ham-fisted there, same as here.

    And to me... the worst part is NOT that they just would put out an open casting call and well, if they had a great actress that was a bit different from the part then they find a way to work it in.  Nope.  That's not what happened.  Instead, they put out a call for a specific race which was different form the character as written and previously portrayed... meaning they just wanted to check a box.   

    Back to your analogy:  It would have been very bad if they just put out a casting call and ended up with a white guy playing Katsumodo.   It would have been a travesty if they specifically went looking for one.  And that is the equivalent of what happened here.  

    By the way, I think it's an absolute shame that Watanabe never gained more fame and greater roles.  I always envisioned him as the perfect Captain of a Starfleet vessel.  Not a recast Capt Kirk, but his own character, on his own vessel.   Instead, he's typecast in Godzilla and Pokemon movies.   THAT is a shame and an utter waste of talent.

    So to me, the correct discussion would be around creating new stories and characters that involve varying races, sexes, colors, religions whatever.  NOT that we should ever retcon previous work to force checking a box.


    The role that Cruise played in the movie was most certainly a Hollywood tripe or farce.

    "In 2014, the movie was one of several discussed by Keli Goff in The Daily Beast in an article concerning white savior narratives in film,[19] a cinematic trope studied in sociology, for which The Last Samurai has been analyzed."

    "Motoko Rich of The New York Times observed that the film has opened up a debate, "particularly among Asian-Americans and Japanese," about whether the film and others like it were "racist, naïve, well-intentioned, accurate – or all of the above."

    The problem isn't whether certain story changes make sense, but rather why they were made. This could be said of the Ghostbuster remake, the Ocean's 8 movie, Star Wars and it's liberal use of sexuality emphasis ( which was never part of the original movie series ). It's not like people freaked out about Luke kissing his sister, because he didn't know Leia was his sister.

    However, as I pointed out earlier. I enjoy movies that make sense, such as Wonder Woman, the Black Panther, and Red Sparrow to name a few. I'm sure there are a million female actresses who could have fit the role just as well without "checking Hollywood's equality boxes."

  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    Rhoklaw said:
    Sovrath said:
    Well that's what I'm saying. If I'm writing about Feudal Japan then "I'm writing about Feudal Japan" and race would matter. I'm not going to write about Feudal Japan being entirely populated by the Spanish.



    If I write a murder mystery it could have everyone black or everyone white or everyone a nice coffee color.

    But if I write a murder mystery "specifically" set in old Persia or South Africa, then that is going to take into account the people. If I write a fantasy story then quite frankly I don't care how tan or pale the people are. Or light green.

    The Witcher is the Polish Lord of the Rings. It's set in a fantasy Poland similar to how Kislev is fantasy Russia in Warhammer, and is about the people and myths of Poland. It makes about as much sense to replace white characters in The Witcher as it would to have a white actor play the Shogun in a feudal Japan fantasy.
    Can you imagine if the Last Samurai was a white dude? Oh wait! I mean they did a great job of incorporating him into the story, but this is what Hollywood does.
    The ideal is for people to just see actors acting. 

    When it comes to Europe the Romans did an extremely good job of mixing up all sorts of folks - from Northern Africa, Near and Middle East, Asia up to a point and Northern Europe. The Persians, Mongols and lots of other empires and wars did the same as well.

    As a result some of the programs that research people ancestry can be pretty funny - not everyone expects mongrel history! That is what most of us are though.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 14,309
    Mendel said:
    Despite all the tangents into other movies, video games do not have a very solid standing as source material for filmed works.  (See Super Mario Brothers (1983) if you dare.)  I'll hope that this production is good, but won't put anything of value at risk.



    The games are not the source, the books that pre-date the games are.

    Having said that, with respect to people's expectations (as seen in this thread and other places) it's definitely the look from the games people are obsessing over.
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    I don't think he looks wrong, just have questions about Cavils acting ability, he has not impressed me in anything he has done.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 12,102
    Rhoklaw said:
    Rhoklaw said:
    Sovrath said:
    Well that's what I'm saying. If I'm writing about Feudal Japan then "I'm writing about Feudal Japan" and race would matter. I'm not going to write about Feudal Japan being entirely populated by the Spanish.



    If I write a murder mystery it could have everyone black or everyone white or everyone a nice coffee color.

    But if I write a murder mystery "specifically" set in old Persia or South Africa, then that is going to take into account the people. If I write a fantasy story then quite frankly I don't care how tan or pale the people are. Or light green.

    The Witcher is the Polish Lord of the Rings. It's set in a fantasy Poland similar to how Kislev is fantasy Russia in Warhammer, and is about the people and myths of Poland. It makes about as much sense to replace white characters in The Witcher as it would to have a white actor play the Shogun in a feudal Japan fantasy.
    Can you imagine if the Last Samurai was a white dude? Oh wait! I mean they did a great job of incorporating him into the story, but this is what Hollywood does.
    Ken Watanabe gave an absolutely incredible performance in that role.  Such screen presence... he absolutely dominated Cruise in that film. So the analogy is not correct.  It would have been quite wrong for Cruise to play Katsumodo in that film and that would really have been analogous to what we are discussing here.  It would have been wrong and ham-fisted there, same as here.

    And to me... the worst part is NOT that they just would put out an open casting call and well, if they had a great actress that was a bit different from the part then they find a way to work it in.  Nope.  That's not what happened.  Instead, they put out a call for a specific race which was different form the character as written and previously portrayed... meaning they just wanted to check a box.   

    Back to your analogy:  It would have been very bad if they just put out a casting call and ended up with a white guy playing Katsumodo.   It would have been a travesty if they specifically went looking for one.  And that is the equivalent of what happened here.  

    By the way, I think it's an absolute shame that Watanabe never gained more fame and greater roles.  I always envisioned him as the perfect Captain of a Starfleet vessel.  Not a recast Capt Kirk, but his own character, on his own vessel.   Instead, he's typecast in Godzilla and Pokemon movies.   THAT is a shame and an utter waste of talent.

    So to me, the correct discussion would be around creating new stories and characters that involve varying races, sexes, colors, religions whatever.  NOT that we should ever retcon previous work to force checking a box.


    The role that Cruise played in the movie was most certainly a Hollywood tripe or farce.

    "In 2014, the movie was one of several discussed by Keli Goff in The Daily Beast in an article concerning white savior narratives in film,[19] a cinematic trope studied in sociology, for which The Last Samurai has been analyzed."

    "Motoko Rich of The New York Times observed that the film has opened up a debate, "particularly among Asian-Americans and Japanese," about whether the film and others like it were "racist, naïve, well-intentioned, accurate – or all of the above."

    The problem isn't whether certain story changes make sense, but rather why they were made. This could be said of the Ghostbuster remake, the Ocean's 8 movie, Star Wars and it's liberal use of sexuality emphasis ( which was never part of the original movie series ). It's not like people freaked out about Luke kissing his sister, because he didn't know Leia was his sister.

    However, as I pointed out earlier. I enjoy movies that make sense, such as Wonder Woman, the Black Panther, and Red Sparrow to name a few. I'm sure there are a million female actresses who could have fit the role just as well without "checking Hollywood's equality boxes."
    I honestly cannot follow what you are trying to say... I don't know if we agree or not. So I'll just leave it there :)

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 28,398
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    Well that's what I'm saying. If I'm writing about Feudal Japan then "I'm writing about Feudal Japan" and race would matter. I'm not going to write about Feudal Japan being entirely populated by the Spanish.



    If I write a murder mystery it could have everyone black or everyone white or everyone a nice coffee color.

    But if I write a murder mystery "specifically" set in old Persia or South Africa, then that is going to take into account the people. If I write a fantasy story then quite frankly I don't care how tan or pale the people are. Or light green.

    The Witcher is the Polish Lord of the Rings. It's set in a fantasy Poland similar to how Kislev is fantasy Russia in Warhammer, and is about the people and myths of Poland. It makes about as much sense to replace white characters in The Witcher as it would to have a white actor play the Shogun in a feudal Japan fantasy.
    I agree. But when the creator of the work allows it then that's pretty much it.

    I don't care what lore nerds say when the creator of any work is still alive and can still alter his/her work.

    After the fact? Depends on what is documented, what author/creator has said.

    I mean we know there were Black People in Europe during the Renaissance and most were not high up in Society, with a few odd exceptions (see Medici).

    but just because Tolkien wrote from his European perspective and everyone is white except for the easterlings or whatever they are called, doesn't mean that Andrzej Sapkowski's white Witcher world has to stay a white witcher world if he's ok with it. As it seems he is.

    Like I said, I'm more on the side of the creator of a work and being a creator of many works, I know that I have adapted and changed things along the way for one reason or another. And if someone changed something I didn't like I'd say stop and if someone changed something and persuaded me of its merit I'd give it my blessing.



    The only comment I can find from him on the subject isn't endorsing race swapping the main characters. He said he supports the show portraying the diversity that is in The Witcher universe, which I take to mean portraying characters like Tea and Vea from Zerrikania.



    Not sure, that's not how I read it so I'd like to see him actually make a statement toward the fact.
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 3,188
    edited April 2019
    Iselin said:
    Mendel said:
    Despite all the tangents into other movies, video games do not have a very solid standing as source material for filmed works.  (See Super Mario Brothers (1983) if you dare.)  I'll hope that this production is good, but won't put anything of value at risk.



    The games are not the source, the books that pre-date the games are.

    Having said that, with respect to people's expectations (as seen in this thread and other places) it's definitely the look from the games people are obsessing over.
    Yes the game got his look pretty decent tbh. Geralt is older, wiser and it should look so as he spent lots of time fighting "monsters"...and men so the pretty boy look should be somewhat scrubbed away imo.

    BTW not sure if some of you are aware but this isn't the first Witcher movie/tv series. Called Wiedźmin in 2001.  It didn't do well as they just tried to cram too much in a 2 hour movie so in 2003 they made a 13 episode series which was more coherent.

    The movie
    removed the link in case copyright whining so actually just google Wiedźmin 2001 for the movie 2hr+ movie (it up in youtube) or look for 13 45minor so episodes.




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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 4,206
    Asm0deus said:
    From head up... does not look like Geralt:




    Really looks like Geralt:


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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 3,188
    Asheram said:
    Asm0deus said:
    From head up... does not look like Geralt:




    Really looks like Geralt:




    The first live adaptation of Geralt at least that I know of:

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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 4,206
    Asm0deus said:
    Asheram said:
    Asm0deus said:
    From head up... does not look like Geralt:









    The first live adaptation of Geralt at least that I know of:

    lol Cavill does resemble him more. I agree with you on Madds Mikkleson.
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