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edited March 2020 in Off-Topic Discussion

Genesis 6:12

"And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth"

Jonah 3:8

“But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.”

The True History of the Conquest of Mexico, Volume 1

By Bernal Díaz del Castillo

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Canaanite people group

In the Hebrew Bible, "Rephaites" or "Rephaim" can describe an ancient race of giants in Iron Age Israel, or the places where these individuals were thought to have lived. According to Genesis 14:5, King Chedorlaomer and his allies attacked and defeated the Rephaites at Ashteroth-Karnaim. Rephaites are also mentioned at Genesis 15:20; Deuteronomy 2:10-21, 3:11; Joshua 12:4, 13:12, 15:8, 17:15, 18:16; 2 Samuel 5:18–22, 23:13; and 1 Chronicles 11:15, 14:9 and 20:4.

In the biblical narrative, the Israelites were instructed to exterminate the previous inhabitants of the "promised land", i.e. Canaan, which include various named peoples, including some unusually tall/large individuals. Several passages in the Book of Joshua, and also Deuteronomy 3:11, suggest that Og (cough OGRE cough), the King of Bashan, was one of the last survivors of the Rephaim, and that his bed was 9 cubits long in ordinary cubits. (An ordinary cubit is the length of a man's forearm according to the New American Standard Bible, or approximately 18 inches, which differs from a royal cubit. This makes the bed over 13 feet long, even longer if the cubit was based on a giant's forearm). Anak, according to 2:11, was a Rephaite.

The area of Moab at Ar (the region east of the Jordan), before the time of Moses, was also considered the land of the Rephaites. Deuteronomy 2:18–21 notes that the Ammonites called the Rephaites "Zamzummim". In Deuteronomy 2:11, the Moabites referred to them as the "Emim".

The Emites (/ˈɛmaɪts/ or /ˈiːmaɪts/) or Emim (Hebrew: אֵמִים) was the Moabite name for Rephaim. They are described in Deuteronomy chapter 2 as having been a powerful and populous people. They were defeated by the Moabites, who occupied their land. The Emim are also mentioned in Genesis 14:5 and according to Rashi, the name is translated as "the dreaded ones" (Hertz 1936) and the singular Ema/Emma (Hebrew: אימה) means "horror" or "terror".

Anakim (Hebrew: עֲנָקִים ‘Ǎnāqîm ) were described as a race of giants, descended from Anak, according to the Tanakh. They were said to have lived in the southern part of the land of Canaan, near Hebron (Gen. 23:2; Josh. 15:13). According to Genesis 14:5-6 they inhabited the region later known as Edom and Moab in the days of Abraham. Their name may come from a Hebrew root meaning "necklace" or "neck-chain".

Their formidable appearance, as described by the Twelve Spies sent to search the land, filled the Israelites with terror. The Israelites seem to have identified them with the Nephilim, the giants (Genesis 6:4, Numbers 13:33) of the antediluvian age. Joshua finally expelled them from the land, except for some who found a refuge in the Philistine cities of Gaza, Gath, and Ashdod (Joshua 11:22), thus the Philistine giants (Goliath) whom David encountered (2 Samuel 21:15-22 ) were descendants of the Anakim.

"SOUTHERN PART OF THE LAND OF CANAAN" (Also read the page from the book first up top)
Look at the the bottom part of south America in this map from 1500s

Zamzummim pl (plural only)

  1. (biblical) A biblical race of giants.
  2. A people that speak in buzzing, mumbling, or rumbling noises (related to the Hebrew word זמזם‎ (“buzzer”)).
"Denisovans, Neanderthals and related hybrids may have inhabited the Denisova Cave for extended periods, but perhaps not at the same time"
Denisova Cave
Job 30
"They were driven forth from among men, (they cried after them as after a thief;) 6To dwell in the clifts of the valleys, in caves of the earth, and in the rocks. 7Among the bushes they brayed; under the nettles they were gathered together. 8They were children of fools, yea, children of base men: they were viler than the earth. 9And now am I their song, yea, I am their byword. 10They abhor me, they flee far from me, and spare not to spit in my face."
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    In Greek mythology, Tartarus (/ˈtɑːrtərəs/; Ancient Greek: Τάρταρος, Tartaros) is the deep abyss that is used as a dungeon of torment and suffering for the wicked and as the prison for the Titans

    genesis 7:23
    "And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground"
    "cover the surface of (something)"
    "German (probably Strasbourg, Alsace)
    about 1440"
    "Series of scenes (left to right), wild men attacking Moors in castle"
    Ancient pyramids Stone age pyramids in Poland
    "Archaeologists who examined these entrances were stunned to discovered the remains of gnawed on human bones."
    "An illustration of Grendel by J. R. Skelton from Stories of Beowulf. Grendel is described as "Very terrible to look upon.""
    This word meaning gentile, from Latin gentilis, was used to refer to pre-Christian civilizations and in particular to the builders of megalithic monuments, to which the other Basque mythical legend the Mairuak are involved too.

    A Jentil stands more than 12 feet tall and weighs about 1600 pounds.

    The jentil were believed to have lived alongside the Basque people. They were hairy and so tall that they could walk in the sea and threw rocks from one mountain to another. This stone throwing has led to several tales and explanations for ancient stone buildings and large isolated rocks. Even the Basque ball game, pilota, is ascribed to these stone-throwers. The tradition lives on in the Basque power games of stone lifting and throwing.
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    A troll is a class of being in Norse mythology and Scandinavian folklore. In Old Norse sources, beings described as trolls dwell in isolated rocks, mountains, or caves, live together in small family units, and are rarely helpful to human beings.

    Later, in Scandinavian folklore, trolls became beings in their own right, where they live far from human habitation, are not Christianized, and are considered dangerous to human beings. Depending on the source, their appearance varies greatly; trolls may be ugly and slow-witted, or look and behave exactly like human beings, with no particularly grotesque characteristic about them.

    Trolls are sometimes associated with particular landmarks, which at times may be explained as formed from a troll exposed to sunlight.

    In mythology, ogres are often depicted as inhumanly large and tall and having a disproportionately large head, abundant hair, unusually colored skin, a voracious appetite, and a strong body. Ogres are closely linked with giants and with human cannibals in mythology.
    "The page features an incredible copper engraving print of a ferocious, "Gigantick", white skinned cannibal, a GUAYMURES, first described by George Marcgraf and Willem Piso in "Historia Naturalis Brasiliae", 1648"
    "there are giants of different sizes in Norse mythology"
    "though not necessarily of great size"

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  • KingNaidKingNaid Member UncommonPosts: 1,875
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    The different prototypes
    Statue of a Cyclops at the Natural History Museum in London

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    1 Chronicles 20:6

    "And yet again there was war at Gath, where was a man of great stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand, and six on each foot and he also was the son of the giant."

    The soldier confirmed that the red-haired, fair-skinned giant had six fingers on each hand and six toes on each footImage result for afghanistan giant

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    Almas is a singular word in Mongolian; the properly formed Turkic plural would be 'almaslar'. As is typical of similar legendary creatures throughout Central Asia, Russia, Pakistan and the Caucasus, the Almas is generally considered to be more akin to "wild people" in appearance and habits than to apes (in contrast to the Yeti of the Himalayas).
    Almases are typically described as human-like bipedal animals, between five and six and a half feet tall, their bodies covered with reddish-brown hair, with anthropomorphic facial features including a pronounced browridge, flat nose, and a weak chin

    "In a documentary called “The Real Middle Earth” (Multi Media Arts & Holm 2007), Helen Armstrong suggests that Tolkien’s experience in working with archaeologist Sir Mortimer Wheeler may have influenced plot elements of The Hobbit"

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    To produce a formidable weapon
    Treebeard speculates that Saruman had crossbred Orcs and Men
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    The name is a pun on yajin (野人) which means "wildman"
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    The Saiyans were a group of barbaric aliens who arrived to the Planet Vegeta (once known as the Planet Plant) very long ago. Their home planet, Sadala, had been destroyed due to conflict among Saiyans. The indigenous lifeforms to this planet were the Tuffles, a very technologically advanced race. When the Saiyan first arrived, they lived in the arid wastelands on the outskirts of the Tuffles' cities. The Tuffles had no way of knowing the Saiyans would eventually take the whole planet for themselves and destroy their race.
    There is evidence for interbreeding between archaic and modern humans during the Middle Paleolithic and early Upper Paleolithic. The interbreeding happened in several independent events that included Neanderthals and Denisovans, as well as several unidentified hominins.
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    Milky Way is the Crack in the Firmament from the waters above, not a galaxy.
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    Shortly after this photo was taken, the archaeologists you see here searching for samples of early human glassware were stomped to death by a 200' tall titan in SERIOUS BOOTS ...

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    Caucasus Mountains, Georgia
    5-6 feet tall
    Covered in reddish black hair
    Thick head of hair which hangs down like a mane
    Uses sticks and stones as weapons
    A female example was supposedly captured, tamed, and then bore children with those that captured her
    Togo, South Africa
    Short, squat, and covered with dark hair
    Lives in the forest

    Northern Caucasus Mountains, Russia
    Covered in hair

    Kola Peninsupa. European Russia
    7-8 feet tall
    Covered in light grey hair with periodic lighter and darker splotches
    Wrinkled face
    Red eyes
    Known to knuckle walk
    Said to steal dogs
    Supposedly live in abandoned cabins
    Sometimes climbs trees

    Tanzania, East Africa
    3-4 feet tall
    Reddish brown hair
    Yellow-red skin under the hair
    Supposedly trades with locals

    Caucasus Mountains, Russia
    Covered in hair

    South Africa
    Extremely ugly
    Known to eat humans
    Look human other than their eyes are on the heels of their feet
    Gigantic in size
    Said to be quite stupid

    Larger than a human
    Said to dwell in swamps
    Covered in shaggy hair
    Has tusks similar to a boar’s
    Luminous eyes

    Pennsylvania, USA
    About as big as a 10-year-old human
    Hair covered
    Mischievous, has been said to steal items
    Also known as Albatwitch

    Siberia, Russia
    5-7 feet tall
    Covered in curly red/brown hair
    Facial structure resembles a Neanderthal
    Very long arms and short legs
    Females have extremely pendulous breasts
    Supposedly can interbreed with humans
    Extremely fast
    Uses primitive tools
    Possibly same species as the Almasty
    Caucasus Mountains, Russia and Georgia
    5-6 feet tall
    Covered in shaggy red hair
    Slanted, red eyes
    Short legs
    Smell extremely unpleasantly
    Makes nests of grass and reeds
    Possibly same species as the Alma
    North Africa
    Said to have backwards pointing feet
    Also known as Opisthodactyles

    Ape of King’s Nympton
    King’s Nympton, England
    Similar to a bipedal gorilla
    Glowing green eyes

    Democratic Republic of Congo
    Similar to a bipedal chimpanzee
    Covered in brown hair
    Suggested to be a solitary chimpanzee
    Bardin Booger
    Bardin, Florida, USA
    Looks like a cross between an ape and a human
    Possible hoax to boost economy
    Skunk Ape,
    Nepal, India, and Bangladesh
    4-5 feet tall
    Covered in grey hair
    Aggressive and supposedly kidnaps people
    Also known as Bang, Bunmanus, and Van-Manas

    Shishi Kuh Valley, Pakistan
    Very muscular
    Covered in dark brown hair except for its face
    Unusually large head
    Strong body odor
    Shorter than average man
    Humanoid footprints with three toes

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    "Homo naledi, discovered in South Africa in 2013 and tentatively dated to about 300,000 years ago, may represent fossil evidence of such an archaic human species. Neanderthals spread across the Near East and Europe, while Denisovans appear to have spread across Central and East Asia and to Southeast Asia and Oceania"
    "According to the Hebrew Bible, the Zuzim or Zuzites (meaning "restless" or "roaming") were a tribe who lived in Ham, a land east of the Jordan River between Bashan and Moab. The Zuzim were conquered by the Elamite King Chedorlaomer (Genesis 14:5). Many scholars identify the Zuzim with the Zamzummim (Deuteronomy 2:20), a tribe of the Rephaim living in the same region as the Zuzim and later occupied by the Ammonites. In Hebrew "Zuz" represents the root "z'z" which means, "to move" and is likely associated with the Ancient Egyptian "s's" meaning, "to move on foot""

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    Before Cataclysm
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    Everything on Eastern Hemisphere is learned from Atlanteans, people from Americas (Shem/Ham/Japheth) spread out after the cataclysm.  Heres a mayan that looks like a samurai, from father crespis collection
    The History of Thoth, The Atlantean
    Fast we fled toward the sun of the morning,
    until beneath us lay the land of the children of KHEM.

    Raging, they came with cudgels and spears,
    lifted in anger seeking to slay and utterly destroy the Sons of Atlantis.

    Then raised I my staff and directed a ray of vibration,
    striking them still in their tracks as fragments
    of stone of the mountain.

    Then spoke I to them in words calm and peaceful,
    telling them of the might of Atlantis,
    saying we were children of the Sun and its messengers.
    Cowed I them by my display of magic-science,
    until at my feet they groveled, when I released them.

    Long dwelt we in the land of KHEM,
    long and yet long again.
    Until obeying the commands of the Master,
    who while sleeping yet lives eternally,
    I sent from me the Sons of Atlantis,
    sent them in many directions,
    that from the womb of time wisdom
    might rise again in her children.

    Long time dwelt I in the land of KHEM,
    doing great works by the wisdom within me.
    Upward grew into the light of knowledge
    the children of KHEM,
    watered by the rains of my wisdom.

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  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 3,223
    What prompted this?
    Catch me streaming at
    You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations. 
  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657
    What prompted this?
    My best guess is just being a giant geek about giants.
    "I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone.  It's not.  The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone."  Robin Williams
  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 7,301
    Grunty said:
    What prompted this?
    My best guess is just being a giant geek about giants.
    It's not just this one. This poster has about 4 or 5 other "theory" posts here.

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.

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    And so of course it was the Anunnaki who created coffee, originally intending it to serve as fuel for their mine workers (who were, in fact, proto-genetic hybrid humans). And this creation was their undoing.
    Puzzling evidence that proves my case:

    -Coffea arabica is a hybrid, which appeared in Ethiopia. It’s supposed “parents” (Coffea canephora or “Robusta” and Coffea eugenioides) are not even from Ethiopia. Are we supposed to believe that a west African coffee species flew by itself across a continent to mate with another species? Or was it flown there? And if then, by who? And why?

    -Arabica is an allotetraploid. According to Biology Online, “Allotetraploids are created as a result of both chromosome sets of both parents being present in gametes.” To put it in layman’s terms, this means arabica must be some kind of genetic mutant created by an intelligent plant breeder.

    -Coffee is uniquely suited to make humans better, more productive workers. It stimulates the intellect and makes drinkers more alert while promoting stamina. Coffee is an ancient, high technology performance enhancer.

    The coffee drug, known as KHWH to the ancient aliens, was administered to the Anunnaki’s proto-genetic human mine workers in a variety of ways. All evidence points to milk from genetically engineered bovine herds (cows) as well as purified powdered carbs (sugar) to provide energy and protein to the workers’ systems. It was, in many ways, the perfect system for maximizing labor for the construction of ancient temples and landing strips, and you know what? COFFEE IS STILL CONSUMED THE SAME WAY TODAY.

    Coffee is impossibly complex. Professional tasters detect flavor notes as disparate as Meyer Lemon, Night Blooming Jasmine, and Prosecco. This is super-natural, nearly psychedelic flavor complexity, designed to lure humans into a daily dosing ritual, just as it did for the lost tribes of Sumer. It is impossible for flavor scientists to duplicate coffee flavor by any process, and today we go to far ends of the world to find the most complex and enchanting flavor expressions. But our journeys to origin today pale in comparison to the galactic road walked by the Anunnaki, whom, should they ever choose to return, I for one would welcome as our new overlords.

    The world's 20 biggest coffee drinkers

    1. Finland - 12kg per capita per year
    2. Norway - 9.9
    3. Iceland - 9
    4. Denmark - 8.7
    5. Netherlands - 8.4
    6. Sweden - 8.2
    7. Switzerland - 7.9
    8. Belgium - 6.8
    9. Luxembourg - 6.5
    10. Canada - 6.2
    11. Bosnia and Herzegovina - 6.1
    12. Austria - 5.9
    13. Italy - 5.8
    14. Slovenia - 5.8
    15. Brazil - 5.5
    16. Germany - 5.5
    17. Greece - 5.4
    18. France - 5.1
    19. Croatia - 4.9
    20. Cyprus - 4.8
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    In Greg Little's 'Path of Souls,' Andrew Collins proposed that the American giant skeletons found in Native American mounds were very likely Denisovan human hybrids. Now the theory gains support In the ground-breaking book 'Path of Souls' by Dr Greg Little, published in June 2014, Andrew Collins contributed a section proposing that the giant skeletons reportedly found across the United States over the past 200 years are the remains of human hybrids of extreme height. They are, he proposes, an admixture of two types of ancient hominins - most likely Homo sapiens and Denisovans, a new type of hominin identified for the first time from DNA evidence derived from human fossil remains over 40,000 years old found at the Denisova Cave in the Altai Mountains of northern Siberia. These findings were also the subject of a full-length lecture presented by Andrew at the Origins 2014 Conference in London in November 2014. 

    Here Andrew takes the matter on to the next level, proposing that the Denisovan human hybrids first entered the Americas as much as 15,000 to 20,000 years ago, and survived through until the Adena period of American history around 1000 BC as elite groups controlling cosmic geography regarding the journey of the soul into the afterlife. The bones of the giants have been found in hundreds of Native American burial mounds, and almost always they date to the Adena period, ca. 1000-300 BC.

    Neanderthal Traits

    Then we come to the medical condition of the remains, for Burial 37 is believed to have suffered from acromegaly (Bartelink et al, 2014), a rare disorder of the endocrine system related to gigantism.

    Yet unlike gigantism, where the pituitary gland begins to excrete large amounts of growth hormones during childhood, acromegaly is something that does not occur until adulthood, after the body's long bones are fully formed. A tumor connected with the pituitary gland triggers the release of hormones, which stimulate whatever they can, resulting in abnormalities in the hands, face and feet.

    For this individual it meant a canine in his upper jaw growing upside down and protruding through the bone of his face immediately beneath the nose.

    Moreover, compared against fourteen other skulls examined from the mass grave, that of Burial 37 was taller and wider. The skull also possessed a heavy brow ridge, while the body had unusually thick arms and legs, traits that are unusual in modern humans, but are common in Neanderthal anatomy.

    In addition to this, he had an elongated chin, resulting in a "lantern" jaw, along with a pronounced nose giving it a beak- like appearance (Bartelink, Pastino, 2014). On top of this, the bony pocket in the skull that holds the pituitary gland, which is called the sella turcica as it looks like a Turkish saddle, was significantly enlarged.

    According to Dr. Eric Bartelink, a physical anthropologist at California State University who led the team that examined Burial 37, all these strange physiological traits can be put down to acromegaly, which is rarely seen in the archaeological record, and certainly not in burials this old.


    Having said this, two other cases of acromegaly are known from North America: one in a 600-year- old male burial found in New Mexico, and another in an unsexed 1,100-year- old skull unearthed in Illinois (Pastino, 2014).

    As to how, with his "distinctive visage," the man behind Burial 37 might have been perceived by the rest of the Windmiller culture remains unclear, although as Bartelink comments:

    "I would expect that the person would have been treated differently, but it's hard to say".

    (Pastino, 2014)

    This said, there is little question that the individual would have looked striking in appearance, and very much in contrast to other Native Americans of the time.

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    Strange Sets of Teeth

    One of the most significant points about the skull of Burial 37 is the mis-growth of the eye-tooth, or canine, which is upside down and protruding through the bone just beneath the nose.

    Although this abnormality can be explained as the effects of acromegaly, the presence of supernumerary teeth in a person is more correctly known in the dental profession as hyperdontism.

    This can affect any part of the dental arch and result in the growth of any number of so-called supernumerary teeth.

    Those readers familiar with stories relating to the discovery of giant skeletons in the United States will be familiar with this disorder, as there are various accounts of oversized human skeletons where the skulls have been found to contain a "double row of teeth" in one or both jaws.

    (NOTE: For example, see Bancroft, 1882, IV, 694-5, relating to giant skeletons found in caves on San Rosa Island, California

    "furnished with double teeth all the way round the jaw," and Weston, 1906, 400, regarding a giant skeleton found in Middleboro, Massachusetts, with "a double row of teeth in each jaw".

    Many more stories featuring large skeletons with double rows of teeth exist in old newspapers, but their authenticity cannot be verified).

    Supernumerary teeth in the skulls of giant skeletons is actually one of the most compelling pieces of evidence for their existence, as it appears far too often in accounts for it not to have some meaning.

    What it also tells us is that there might be a relationship between endocrine and pituitary disorders and abnormally sized skeletons in the archaeological record.

    • Patients with Ehler-Danlos syndrome or Gardner syndrome 
    • Children with Down syndrome
    • Patients born with cleft lip or palate 
    • Those of Chinese or South-American descent 
    • Males
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    "There, Billy found a marvelous train decorated in hieroglyphics and mystic runes. Billy and the stranger rode the train deep into the bowles of the earth and arrived in a cavern that held statues epitomizing the Seven Deadly Enemies of Man, including Envy, Lust, Greed, Pride, Wrath, Sloth, and Gluttony."

    "The origins of the Seven Deadly Enemies are shrouded in mystery. They wreaked chaos and destruction across the world, until the wizard Shazam trapped them in Tiki-like stone statues in the Rock of Eternity. The demons have escaped their prisons several times to cause havoc"
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    Visions of the Four Beasts

    7 In the first year of King Belshazzar of Babylon, Daniel had a dream and visions of his head as he lay in bed. Then he wrote down the dream:[a] 2 I,[b] Daniel, saw in my vision by night the four winds of heaven stirring up the great sea, 3 and four great beasts came up out of the sea, different from one another. 4 The first was like a lion and had eagles’ wings. Then, as I watched, its wings were plucked off, and it was lifted up from the ground and made to stand on two feet like a human being; and a human mind was given to it. 5 Another beast appeared, a second one, that looked like a bear. It was raised up on one side, had three tusks[c] in its mouth among its teeth and was told, “Arise, devour many bodies!” 6 After this, as I watched, another appeared, like a leopard. The beast had four wings of a bird on its back and four heads; and dominion was given to it. 7 After this I saw in the visions by night a fourth beast, terrifying and dreadful and exceedingly strong. It had great iron teeth and was devouring, breaking in pieces, and stamping what was left with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that preceded it, and it had ten horns. 8 I was considering the horns, when another horn appeared, a little one coming up among them; to make room for it, three of the earlier horns were plucked up by the roots. There were eyes like human eyes in this horn, and a mouth speaking arrogantly.

    Judgment before the Ancient One

    9 As I watched,
    thrones were set in place,
        and an Ancient One[d] took his throne,
    his clothing was white as snow,
        and the hair of his head like pure wool;
    his throne was fiery flames,
        and its wheels were burning fire.
    10 A stream of fire issued
        and flowed out from his presence.
    A thousand thousands served him,
        and ten thousand times ten thousand stood attending him.
    The court sat in judgment,
        and the books were opened.

    11 I watched then because of the noise of the arrogant words that the horn was speaking. And as I watched, the beast was put to death, and its body destroyed and given over to be burned with fire. 12 As for the rest of the beasts, their dominion was taken away, but their lives were prolonged for a season and a time. 13 As I watched in the night visions,

    I saw one like a human being[e]
        coming with the clouds of heaven.
    And he came to the Ancient One[f]
        and was presented before him.
    14 To him was given dominion
        and glory and kingship,
    that all peoples, nations, and languages
        should serve him.
    His dominion is an everlasting dominion
        that shall not pass away,
    and his kingship is one
        that shall never be destroyed.

    Daniel’s Visions Interpreted

    15 As for me, Daniel, my spirit was troubled within me,[g] and the visions of my head terrified me. 16 I approached one of the attendants to ask him the truth concerning all this. So he said that he would disclose to me the interpretation of the matter: 17 “As for these four great beasts, four kings shall arise out of the earth. 18 But the holy ones of the Most High shall receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever—forever and ever.”

    19 Then I desired to know the truth concerning the fourth beast, which was different from all the rest, exceedingly terrifying, with its teeth of iron and claws of bronze, and which devoured and broke in pieces, and stamped what was left with its feet; 20 and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and concerning the other horn, which came up and to make room for which three of them fell out—the horn that had eyes and a mouth that spoke arrogantly, and that seemed greater than the others. 21 As I looked, this horn made war with the holy ones and was prevailing over them, 22 until the Ancient One[h] came; then judgment was given for the holy ones of the Most High, and the time arrived when the holy ones gained possession of the kingdom.

    "The Four Perils (Chinese: 四凶; pinyin: Sì Xiōng) are four malevolent beings that existed in Chinese mythology, and the antagonistic counterparts of the Four Benevolent Animals."

    "APART from protectors and god-like creatures, there are also evil-beings in Chinese myths. Si Xiong, or the Four Evils, are one of the most famous.

    The Four Evils are Tao Tie饕餮, Hun Dun混沌, Qiong Qi穷奇 and Tao Wu梼杌. Each holds evil characteristics such as encouraging greed, distorting truth, and making wars. The evil beasts’ names are still often referred to as metaphors out of superstition.

    Some legends suggest the four evils were born from four evil and rebellious tribe leaders after they died in ancient times: San Miao三苗, Huan Dou驩兜, Gong Gong共工 and Gun鲧. They ruled in the reign of the Shun Emperor 舜帝, who was defeated and exiled in the end. But there are many other stories of the origins of the beasts."

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  • KingNaidKingNaid Member UncommonPosts: 1,875
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    "Magog was a huge Goblin who made himself King of the Moria Goblins after Mazog's demise during the chaos of the War of the Ring."

    "Gog and Magog (/ˈɡɒɡ ... ˈmeɪɡɒɡ/; Hebrew: גּוֹג וּמָגוֹג Gog u-Magog) appear in the Hebrew Bible as individuals, peoples, or lands. In Ezekiel 38, Gog is an individual and Magog is his land; in Genesis 10 Magog is a man, but no Gog is mentioned; and centuries later Jewish tradition changed Ezekiel's Gog from Magog into Gog and Magog, which is the form in which they appear in the Book of Revelation, although there they are peoples rather than individuals.

    A legend was attached to Gog and Magog by the time of the Roman period, that the Gates of Alexander were erected by Alexander the Great to repel the tribe. Romanized Jewish historian Josephus knew them as the nation descended from Magog the Japhetite, as in Genesis, and explained them to be the Scythians. In the hands of Early Christian writers they became apocalyptic hordes, and throughout the Medieval period variously identified as the Huns, Khazars, Mongols, Turanians or other nomads, or even the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel.

    The legend of Gog and Magog and the gates was also interpolated into the Alexander romances. In one version, "Goth and Magoth" are kings of the Unclean Nations, driven beyond a mountain pass by Alexander, and blocked from returning by his new wall. Gog and Magog are said to engage in human cannibalism in the romances and derived literature. They have also been depicted on Medieval cosmological maps, or mappae mundi, sometimes alongside Alexander's wall.

    The conflation of Gog and Magog with the legend of Alexander and the Iron Gates was disseminated throughout the Near East in the early centuries of the Christian era. They appear in the Quran as Yajuj and Majuj (Arabic: يأجوج ومأجوج‎ Yaʾjūj wa-Maʾjūj), adversaries of Dhul-Qarnayn, who is mentioned in the Qu'ran as a great righteous ruler and is most commonly considered to be Alexander the Great. Muslim geographers identified them at first with Turkic tribes from Central Asia and later with the Mongols."

    "Over the next few centuries Jewish tradition changed Ezekiel's Gog from Magog into Gog and Magog. The process, and the shifting geography of Gog and Magog, can be traced through the literature of the period. The 3rd book of the Sibylline Oracles, for example, which originated in Egyptian Judaism in the middle of the 2nd century BC, changes Ezekiel's "Gog from Magog" to "Gog and Magog", links their fate with up to eleven other nations, and places them "in the midst of Aethiopian rivers"; this seems a strange location, but ancient geography did sometimes place Ethiopia next to Persia or even India. The passage has a highly uncertain text, with manuscripts varying in their groupings of the letters of the Greek text into words, leading to different readings; one group of manuscripts ("group Y") links them with the "Marsians and Dacians", in eastern Europe, amongst others."

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