Ten Facts About Castle Sieges in Ashes of Creation

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Ten Facts About Castle Sieges in Ashes of Creation

The Ashes of Creation site has been updated with a new post called "10 Facts About Castle Sieges". These battles "are intended to be massive events with hundreds of people involved in a single Siege". The latest event saw over 200 players taking part though the team has set the goal to be "the largest organized PvP battles in any MMORPG".

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Slapshot1188

“The largest organized PvP battles in any MMORPG”

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Jippiijoo

idk but that first screenshot when you open that link looks amazing.
sieges are also probably fun times.

Scot

Looks really good, but only the gameplay will make sieges great.

Galadourn

nice, some news at last.....

BlueThunderBear

Slapshot1188 said:

“The largest organized PvP battles in any MMORPG”



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AoC thinks its going to have the largest organized PvP battles of any MMORPG? Eve would like a word with them I believe.

Samhael

Er... how is this article about facts when it just lists topics? edit: ok, the article links to an article with ten features of castle sieges. I wouldn't call "Destruction" or "Capturing Points" or "Who gets the castle first" a fact under even a loose definition. It doesn't matter though -- in the actual article, I didn't see anything that would actually make me interested in a castle siege. Sounds more like a lag fest that would likely be accompanied by a lot of trash talking.

Kyleran

Samhael said:

Er... how is this article about facts when it just lists topics?

edit: ok, the article links to an article with ten features of castle sieges. I wouldn't call "Destruction" or "Capturing Points" or "Who gets the castle first" a fact under even a loose definition.
It doesn't matter though -- in the actual article, I didn't see anything that would actually make me interested in a castle siege. Sounds more like a lag fest that would likely be accompanied by a lot of trash talking.

Bingo, the only fact is these are 10 design goals, actual implementation hasn't happened yet.

Sovrath

Samhael said:

Er... how is this article about facts when it just lists topics? edit: ok, the article links to an article with ten features of castle sieges. I wouldn't call "Destruction" or "Capturing Points" or "Who gets the castle first" a fact under even a loose definition. It doesn't matter though -- in the actual article, I didn't see anything that would actually make me interested in a castle siege. Sounds more like a lag fest that would likely be accompanied by a lot of trash talking.

So you don't like castle sieges? PvP?

Slapshot1188

Kyleran said:

Samhael said:

Er... how is this article about facts when it just lists topics?

edit: ok, the article links to an article with ten features of castle sieges. I wouldn't call "Destruction" or "Capturing Points" or "Who gets the castle first" a fact under even a loose definition.
It doesn't matter though -- in the actual article, I didn't see anything that would actually make me interested in a castle siege. Sounds more like a lag fest that would likely be accompanied by a lot of trash talking.

Bingo, the only fact is these are 10 design goals, actual implementation hasn't happened yet.

We live in a post fact world.

Albatroes

Slapshot1188 said:

Kyleran said:

Samhael said:

Er... how is this article about facts when it just lists topics?

edit: ok, the article links to an article with ten features of castle sieges. I wouldn't call "Destruction" or "Capturing Points" or "Who gets the castle first" a fact under even a loose definition.
It doesn't matter though -- in the actual article, I didn't see anything that would actually make me interested in a castle siege. Sounds more like a lag fest that would likely be accompanied by a lot of trash talking.

Bingo, the only fact is these are 10 design goals, actual implementation hasn't happened yet.

We live in a post fact world.

Correction: We live in a world with alternative facts.

Slapshot1188

Albatroes said:

Slapshot1188 said:

Kyleran said:

Samhael said:

Er... how is this article about facts when it just lists topics?

edit: ok, the article links to an article with ten features of castle sieges. I wouldn't call "Destruction" or "Capturing Points" or "Who gets the castle first" a fact under even a loose definition.
It doesn't matter though -- in the actual article, I didn't see anything that would actually make me interested in a castle siege. Sounds more like a lag fest that would likely be accompanied by a lot of trash talking.

Bingo, the only fact is these are 10 design goals, actual implementation hasn't happened yet.

We live in a post fact world.

Correction: We live in a world with alternative facts.

I guess what I mean is that today we live in a world where what you do is of less importance than what you say you will do or “try” to do.  I see all these games talk about what they will do over the next 6 months or year...  then in 6 months they either list the same stuff again or ignore the old stuff and just list new things.

When you challenge that you get named as a troll, Harbinger, or similar.  Ashes says they are going to have the largest PvP battles of any MMORPG?  Great... we should hold them to that.  Don’t make excuses when they fall laughably short.  They just set the bar for themselves. It’s time for some industry wide accountability.

Theocritus

The more I hear about this game the less I am interested in it.

Sovrath

Theocritus said:

The more I hear about this game the less I am interested in it.

So the idea of large castle sieges that require tactics and strategy as well as the need to manage it once a group takes it is a turn off?

Kyleran

Sovrath said:

Theocritus said:

The more I hear about this game the less I am interested in it.

So the idea of large castle sieges that require tactics and strategy as well as the need to manage it once a group takes it is a turn off?

I think it's a great idea, but remain very skeptical this team can pull it off well.

In my opinion this is a feature one builds in from the ground up as CU has been trying to do.

Their BR "testing" results did not inspire any more confidence or dispel my concerns.

pantaro

I'm still waiting on AoC to wash my jeep and cook my dinner for me too! lol this studio....haha

Kajidourden

Sovrath said:

Theocritus said:

The more I hear about this game the less I am interested in it.

So the idea of large castle sieges that require tactics and strategy as well as the need to manage it once a group takes it is a turn off?

Won't happen, so it doesn't matter.

Mendel

Slapshot1188 said:

Albatroes said:

Slapshot1188 said:

Kyleran said:

Samhael said:

Er... how is this article about facts when it just lists topics?

edit: ok, the article links to an article with ten features of castle sieges. I wouldn't call "Destruction" or "Capturing Points" or "Who gets the castle first" a fact under even a loose definition.
It doesn't matter though -- in the actual article, I didn't see anything that would actually make me interested in a castle siege. Sounds more like a lag fest that would likely be accompanied by a lot of trash talking.

Bingo, the only fact is these are 10 design goals, actual implementation hasn't happened yet.

We live in a post fact world.

Correction: We live in a world with alternative facts.

I guess what I mean is that today we live in a world where what you do is of less importance than what you say you will do or “try” to do.  I see all these games talk about what they will do over the next 6 months or year...  then in 6 months they either list the same stuff again or ignore the old stuff and just list new things.

When you challenge that you get named as a troll, Harbinger, or similar.  Ashes says they are going to have the largest PvP battles of any MMORPG?  Great... we should hold them to that.  Don’t make excuses when they fall laughably short.  They just set the bar for themselves. It’s time for some industry wide accountability.

A consumer trying to claim 'consumer rights' is the problem, at least in the eyes of accountability-phobic developers.

A simple guideline for developers.  Make a promise, keep a promise.  Your business will be better for it.

J_Jones

Scot said:

Looks really good, but only the gameplay will make sieges great.

I've seen some castle siege footages on youtube and they look awesome. Wish we can play it soon.

Sovrath

coretex666 said:

Sovrath said:

Theocritus said:

The more I hear about this game the less I am interested in it.

So the idea of large castle sieges that require tactics and strategy as well as the need to manage it once a group takes it is a turn off?

I have probably already heard enough not to be interested at all. 

I like castle sieges. I really enjoyed them in L2, for instance. This game, however, looks like something that is played on a TV using a controller while lying on a couch.  

hmmm, well, I'm not sold on the aesthetics to be sure. Though, the buildings do look great.

Sovrath

Kyleran said:

Sovrath said:

Theocritus said:

The more I hear about this game the less I am interested in it.

So the idea of large castle sieges that require tactics and strategy as well as the need to manage it once a group takes it is a turn off?

I think it's a great idea, but remain very skeptical this team can pull it off well.

In my opinion this is a feature one builds in from the ground up as CU has been trying to do.

Their BR "testing" results did not inspire any more confidence or dispel my concerns.

Oh, I'm not saying they can pull it off. But I tend not to be a cynic right from the start.

I'm very happy to have any game company make claims and then allow them to make good on those claims.

Or just hang themselves. And "yeah" I was thinking of Camelot Unchained when I read this announcement.

At least we know that after all these years they have figured it out.

Warlyx

wanted to be a mmorpg ......but im another BR game...

Amathe

It looks good. I will have to wait and see.

jahlon

Slapshot1188 said:

“The largest organized PvP battles in any MMORPG”



Bridge for sale.

Cheap.

When I saw that quote last night I was just about to start streaming.

So the stream got cancelled so I could do another feedback video on yet another fumble, stumble and bumble.

I mean "largest organized PvP battles"

Fucking OOF

Slapshot1188

@Torval

Because thy likely will feed the Castle Siege into their stand alone Battle Royale game.

Sovrath

Torval said:

Castle sieges in Lineage weren't even the best part of the game or pvp. They were fun, kind of, for a bit but it was all the stuff in between that made the game. The resource competition, mob farming, social alliances, character building, and politics were what made the game. I wonder if these guys get that.

Why does something have to be "the most". CUs obsessive quest for the most massive battles that no other engine can even come close to doesn't impress me at all. These guys trying the "the most" title with their sieges, unimpressive and juvenile. Just make something good and quit dicking around with "perfect". I'm sure CU will crush this claim, if they ever actually make a game, but is that really the point? If so then things are more screwed than I imagined.

What good are castle sieges in Ashes, if the entire rest of the game context is mediocre and forgettable. These guys should be focusing on what made their archetype predecessor (Lineage) the king it is today instead of making big blowhard claims and putting out fluff updates. That's yet another problem with all of these crowd funded MMOs, they spend way too much time keeping the hype up for funding rather than just doing the job.

oh man I disagree. The Castle Sieges were why I played the game. My best times were the castle sieges.

Oh sure, I had some open world pvp fun but the sieges for me were THE reason to play Lineage 2.

So maybe what they get is that they want to appeal to players like me? just sayin'