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Shroud of the Avatar - 'We Are Nomadic Now' as the Team Gives Up Its Office Space - MMORPG.com News

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imageShroud of the Avatar - 'We Are Nomadic Now' as the Team Gives Up Its Office Space - MMORPG.com News

The Shroud of the Avatar livestream from last week started off with a bang as Starr Long kicked things off with "We are nomadic now" and told the viewers that Portalarium had decided to give up its office space in favor of teleworking. The move away from offices will free up resources and time, according to Long, due to increasing office rental costs and rising utilities as well as commute time / cost for developers.

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  • danwest58danwest58 Member RarePosts: 2,009
    Nope. Its because they cant afford their office space not because it would make things easier. This game is going to shut down in the next year. They failed on so many leveled and the P2W bullshit they tried is why this game will be shut down soon.
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  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 2,600
    is the game completely unoriginal, buggy, and boring?
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  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Member EpicPosts: 4,602
    This translates into...

    We are almost busted and this is the last ditch to keep things moving. They obviously cannot afford the rent because the rent is to damned high!
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  • ArteriusArterius Member EpicPosts: 1,597
    Holy crap this is not good news for this game.
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  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,402
    How could this be a good thing?
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  • mercstermercster Member UncommonPosts: 22
    aaaaaaahahahahahaha!
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  • Tuor7Tuor7 Member UncommonPosts: 819
    Sounds like the Fat Lady is warming up off-stage. Won't be long until she starts to sing, IMO.
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,500
    Although they're probably doing it because they're broke, it's still a smart move. More companies should look at restructuring their IT and office infrastructure away from traditional expensive setups to something leaner and more focused. So many companies waste money because they're lazy. The gaming industry needs to smarten up in this competitive environment and operating leaner is the right way to go.
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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 2,881
    danwest58 said:
    Nope. Its because they cant afford their office space not because it would make things easier. This game is going to shut down in the next year. They failed on so many leveled and the P2W bullshit they tried is why this game will be shut down soon.
    While I agree with this since one of the major reasons I never got invested in this game is the P2W bullshit. I also think the only reason this game made it this far is by milking the whale pod keeping this ship afloat. There is no way they could have kept this going with general purchases in the $40 range for the game and a sub fee with a population of less than 100 on steam charts. the only way to keep this going was to squeeze thousands of times more out of the player population they had.



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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member EpicPosts: 2,738
    I am sure all that money saved will be used to make SotA episodes 2 and 3 the great games they deserve to be.....

    The only thing I am hearing is a death rattle, it would be nice if they would communicate that if it is the case. I am afraid we will be hearing "all is fine"right up to the point that they close up shop all of a sudden.

    /Cheers,
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  • DMKanoDMKano Member LegendaryPosts: 20,859
    Honesty goes a long way - spinning cutting costs down to the point of getting rid of office space as an "experiment" that is increasing communication..... come on, nobody believes this.


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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,500
    lahnmir said:
    I am sure all that money saved will be used to make SotA episodes 2 and 3 the great games they deserve to be.....

    The only thing I am hearing is a death rattle, it would be nice if they would communicate that if it is the case. I am afraid we will be hearing "all is fine"right up to the point that they close up shop all of a sudden.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Will it still work in single player mode once that happens? That's what I want to know. It's a big reason why I'm not buying into new GaaS games right now. There are some other big ones, but I hate the idea that they get to take away the game I purchased, or rather indefinitely leased from them. If I can't play a game offline or with servers shut down I'm not buying it anymore.
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  • danwest58danwest58 Member RarePosts: 2,009
    Nilden said:
    danwest58 said:
    Nope. Its because they cant afford their office space not because it would make things easier. This game is going to shut down in the next year. They failed on so many leveled and the P2W bullshit they tried is why this game will be shut down soon.
    While I agree with this since one of the major reasons I never got invested in this game is the P2W bullshit. I also think the only reason this game made it this far is by milking the whale pod keeping this ship afloat. There is no way they could have kept this going with general purchases in the $40 range for the game and a sub fee with a population of less than 100 on steam charts. the only way to keep this going was to squeeze thousands of times more out of the player population they had.



    No they couldnt have kept the game going with a sub fee and a box cause with the low population.  The reason for the low population was the bs attitude of the developers on their forums catering too the P2W players.   Being told to screw off by a developer because I didnt like the combat system feeling like a card game is not the way to communicate.   Too often did the people who drank the kool aid not listen to any constructive feedback.  If this game really focused on the MMORPG aspect and not being a B2P game that allows you to play in an offline mode and 10 other things the game could have been better.   Problem is a lot of people seen the writing on the wall back in 2016 when we tried to play the game.   If the game had around 250K+ players paying a sub it could have been successful.  But you have to have a good game for that not a half baked game that less than 10K people like.   
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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 2,881


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  • LobotomistLobotomist Member RarePosts: 5,811
    Game will probably close in 6 months , if not before....
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    edited March 4
    Torval said:
    lahnmir said:
    I am sure all that money saved will be used to make SotA episodes 2 and 3 the great games they deserve to be.....

    The only thing I am hearing is a death rattle, it would be nice if they would communicate that if it is the case. I am afraid we will be hearing "all is fine"right up to the point that they close up shop all of a sudden.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Will it still work in single player mode once that happens? That's what I want to know. It's a big reason why I'm not buying into new GaaS games right now. There are some other big ones, but I hate the idea that they get to take away the game I purchased, or rather indefinitely leased from them. If I can't play a game offline or with servers shut down I'm not buying it anymore.
    If they're going to do GaaS, do it like EA with Anthem and put the new releases in a sub.  Fraction of the cost, no pretense of ownership, nor entitlement to server support indefinitely from gamers if it's offered only as a sub.

    At least that way, consumers have a realistic idea of what they're actually purchasing.
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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member RarePosts: 1,068
    Anyone ever consider not going for blood with every news piece?
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  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 2,942


    Anyone ever consider not going for blood with every news piece?



    Wouldn't really be the mmorpg.com forum then, would it?
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  • ThupliThupli Member RarePosts: 1,261
    I'm sure that finances matter, but I am surprises that more small game companies deal with the high overhead, especially in LA, san Fran, and Seattle.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 11,608
    edited March 4


    Anyone ever consider not going for blood with every news piece?



    Wouldn't really be the mmorpg.com forum then, would it?
    We are not that bad, when gaming companies try to spin news like this we spell it out which is only fair. But as to the wider issues of SotA I can only hope they stay alive and kicking as there are only two indie MMOs which have actually launched so they are in a rather exclusive club.
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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member RarePosts: 1,068
    Scot said:


    Anyone ever consider not going for blood with every news piece?



    Wouldn't really be the mmorpg.com forum then, would it?
    We are not that bad, when gaming companies try to spin news like this we spell it out which is only fair. But as to the wider issues of SotA I can only hope they stay alive and kicking as there are only two indie MMOs which have actually launched so they are in a rather exclusive club.
    To be fair he’s not lying even if it’s to cover paychecks. Paychecks do fall under “other things”. 
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    Scot said:


    Anyone ever consider not going for blood with every news piece?



    Wouldn't really be the mmorpg.com forum then, would it?
    We are not that bad, when gaming companies try to spin news like this we spell it out which is only fair. But as to the wider issues of SotA I can only hope they stay alive and kicking as there are only two indie MMOs which have actually launched so they are in a rather exclusive club.
    To be fair he’s not lying even if it’s to cover paychecks. Paychecks do fall under “other things”. 
    He framed it like it was some smart business choice and not a move made out of budget pressures.  If it was such a great move, methinks someone at Port might've had the right bulb go off before now.

    If you're going to spoon-feed folks obvious bullshit with some sprinkles on it to make it look good, you can't expect to get away without receiving some disgusted looks.
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  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Member EpicPosts: 4,602
    Scot said:


    Anyone ever consider not going for blood with every news piece?



    Wouldn't really be the mmorpg.com forum then, would it?
    We are not that bad, when gaming companies try to spin news like this we spell it out which is only fair. But as to the wider issues of SotA I can only hope they stay alive and kicking as there are only two indie MMOs which have actually launched so they are in a rather exclusive club.
    To be fair he’s not lying even if it’s to cover paychecks. Paychecks do fall under “other things”. 
    People will see through this which hopefully people will not be stupid enough to contribute to the cash shop only to see items be worthless when they go down in flames.

    I hate seeing all these companies laying off and shutting down but they do bring it on themselves.  They just did not release a particularly compelling game.  It looks and plays like a bad Kings Quest game. 


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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,500
    Scot said:


    Anyone ever consider not going for blood with every news piece?



    Wouldn't really be the mmorpg.com forum then, would it?
    We are not that bad, when gaming companies try to spin news like this we spell it out which is only fair. But as to the wider issues of SotA I can only hope they stay alive and kicking as there are only two indie MMOs which have actually launched so they are in a rather exclusive club.
    To be fair he’s not lying even if it’s to cover paychecks. Paychecks do fall under “other things”. 
    He framed it like it was some smart business choice and not a move made out of budget pressures.  If it was such a great move, methinks someone at Port might've had the right bulb go off before now.

    If you're going to spoon-feed folks obvious bullshit with some sprinkles on it to make it look good, you can't expect to get away without receiving some disgusted looks.
    There is nothing like necessity to kick sense and frugality into action.
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  • MaximusNovaMaximusNova Member UncommonPosts: 17
    i smell bull shit any one else?
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