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COE 0.5 Development Update, coming "soon"

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,609
    Torrsk said:
    I like the guy that basically called out SBS, to have an community manager reply with "Don't reply to this thread again". After someone modded his reply. 

    All he was speaking is the truth. No point saying every single CJ about this upcoming update blog. Getting my rewards from KS be nice at least. Only been waiting over 2 years for them, so cool to see that they are finally getting around to add them.
    In all fairness to the COE team, there already is a running thread about the past due dev blog, I can understand why they would want to keep the comments in the Community blog focused on more of the other content.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,043
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    I like the guy that basically called out SBS, to have an community manager reply with "Don't reply to this thread again". After someone modded his reply. 

    All he was speaking is the truth. No point saying every single CJ about this upcoming update blog. Getting my rewards from KS be nice at least. Only been waiting over 2 years for them, so cool to see that they are finally getting around to add them.
    In all fairness to the COE team, there already is a running thread about the past due dev blog, I can understand why they would want to keep the comments in the Community blog focused on more of the other content.
    Would agree except for the fact that the dev blog is specifically called out in this Community Update... 
    • 0.5.0 Production update blog - We still have plans to share with you the news of our latest development adventure.

    And the one before it:  
    • 0.5.0 Production update blog - See all of the progress we’ve made in our latest development adventures.
     And the one before that: 
    • An Adventure 0.5.0 production update is in the works
    And before that they were just talking about a LiveStream Update:
    • We are planning a public live stream in December that will be unlike any you've seen us do before, you won't want to miss it!

    So it's their forums and their rules, but if you are going to mention something in your Community post and you have it open for responses you SHOULD be expecting some questions/concerns about stuff included in that post.  Especially when it was listed for 3 months straight.



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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,532
    edited March 2019
    ... holy shit.. a COE topic that was not started by Slapshot.. will wonders never cease !
    EponyxDamor
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,043
    edited March 2019
    Ungood said:
    ... holy shit.. a COE topic that was not started by Slapshot.. will wonders never cease !
    Do you dream of me when you sleep?  Honest question.  

    PS: No need for the witty "I know you are but what am I" retort or "Slapshot and Caspien sitting in a tree. K-I-S-S-I-N-G". 

    In every thread you post about Slapshot instead of the topic.  It does get tired.  
    So do you have anything substantial to contribute to this discussion?

    Gdemami

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Ungood said:
    ... holy shit.. a COE topic that was not started by Slapshot.. will wonders never cease !
    Do you dream of me when you sleep?  Honest question.  

    PS: No need for the witty "I know you are but what am I" retort or "Slapshot and Caspien sitting in a tree. K-I-S-S-I-N-G". 

    In every thread you post about Slapshot instead of the topic.  It does get tired.  
    So do you have anything substantial to contribute to this discussion?

    I do dream of Slapshot,my tournament game winning slapshot from the point over the goalies shoulder in to the top corner...a howitzer.:P

    In all seriousness,too often people worry about what other people are saying /doing instead of just commenting on the topics.My take on this ,they have nothing intelligent to say,it is like that dumbasss kid from work who always responds with "i don't give a fk"because he couldn't add 2+2 if his life depended on it and why all the work he does is fail after fail after mistake.
    Slapshot1188MadFrenchieKyleran

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  • InteritusInteritus Member UncommonPosts: 236
    Torrsk said:
    I like the guy that basically called out SBS, to have an community manager reply with "Don't reply to this thread again". After someone modded his reply. 

    All he was speaking is the truth. No point saying every single CJ about this upcoming update blog. Getting my rewards from KS be nice at least. Only been waiting over 2 years for them, so cool to see that they are finally getting around to add them.
    Oh, that's Serpentius. He basically hates anyone who doesn't 100% support SBS. And he's a mod. It's a win/win.  His unique style of being as subtle as a hammer caused people to create a discord channel where all they do is complain about him.  So yeah. He's super fun.
    Slapshot1188Kyleran
  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    edited March 2019
    Ungood said:
    ... holy shit.. a COE topic that was not started by Slapshot.. will wonders never cease !
    You're so busy talking about dudes obsession with a game, you might *be ignoring your growing obsession elsewhere.

    IJS. Outside looking in.


    Post edited by FlyByKnight on
    Slapshot1188MadFrenchieKyleran
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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 295
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    I like the guy that basically called out SBS, to have an community manager reply with "Don't reply to this thread again". After someone modded his reply. 

    All he was speaking is the truth. No point saying every single CJ about this upcoming update blog. Getting my rewards from KS be nice at least. Only been waiting over 2 years for them, so cool to see that they are finally getting around to add them.
    In all fairness to the COE team, there already is a running thread about the past due dev blog, I can understand why they would want to keep the comments in the Community blog focused on more of the other content.
    That they have completely ignored. I could get why some may want to post in the CJ about their concerns. But modding people and telling them to shut up. Never the way to do things. 
    Slapshot1188InteritusAnOldFart
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,532
    Ungood said:
    ... holy shit.. a COE topic that was not started by Slapshot.. will wonders never cease !
    Do you dream of me when you sleep?  Honest question.  

    PS: No need for the witty "I know you are but what am I" retort or "Slapshot and Caspien sitting in a tree. K-I-S-S-I-N-G". 

    In every thread you post about Slapshot instead of the topic.  It does get tired.  
    So do you have anything substantial to contribute to this discussion?

    You post endlessly about COE, so much so, I would have sworn you were paid to do it if you didn't sound like such a jaded ex lover.
    BabuinixcraftseekerEponyxDamor
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,043
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    ... holy shit.. a COE topic that was not started by Slapshot.. will wonders never cease !
    Do you dream of me when you sleep?  Honest question.  

    PS: No need for the witty "I know you are but what am I" retort or "Slapshot and Caspien sitting in a tree. K-I-S-S-I-N-G". 

    In every thread you post about Slapshot instead of the topic.  It does get tired.  
    So do you have anything substantial to contribute to this discussion?

    You post endlessly about COE, so much so, I would have sworn you were paid to do it if you didn't sound like such a jaded ex lover.
    It's kind of what you do in the CoE forum.  You post so much about ME that I think your description must be some form of projection :)

    I'm flattered, but again... do you have anything of substance to contribute to the CoE discussion?

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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,532
    edited March 2019
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    ... holy shit.. a COE topic that was not started by Slapshot.. will wonders never cease !
    Do you dream of me when you sleep?  Honest question.  

    PS: No need for the witty "I know you are but what am I" retort or "Slapshot and Caspien sitting in a tree. K-I-S-S-I-N-G". 

    In every thread you post about Slapshot instead of the topic.  It does get tired.  
    So do you have anything substantial to contribute to this discussion?

    You post endlessly about COE, so much so, I would have sworn you were paid to do it if you didn't sound like such a jaded ex lover.
    It's kind of what you do in the CoE forum.  You post so much about ME that I think your description must be some form of projection :)

    I'm flattered, but again... do you have anything of substance to contribute to the CoE discussion?

    yah.. one post in 3 pages.. and lets get something clear, you are the one obsessing that I mentioned you. 


    I was simply expressing surprise that there was a topic about CoE's that was not made by it's #1 EdgeBoi 
    Slapshot1188EponyxDamor
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,609
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    I like the guy that basically called out SBS, to have an community manager reply with "Don't reply to this thread again". After someone modded his reply. 

    All he was speaking is the truth. No point saying every single CJ about this upcoming update blog. Getting my rewards from KS be nice at least. Only been waiting over 2 years for them, so cool to see that they are finally getting around to add them.
    In all fairness to the COE team, there already is a running thread about the past due dev blog, I can understand why they would want to keep the comments in the Community blog focused on more of the other content.
    That they have completely ignored. I could get why some may want to post in the CJ about their concerns. But modding people and telling them to shut up. Never the way to do things. 
    Didn't see what content was modded but they left in the core complaint which was directly related to the Community blog instead of just erasing it entirely.

    They did ask he not reply in that same thread, which is not the same as telling people to shut up.

    Company forums, their "house" as it were,  one has to respect their rules, just the way of things, which is why I don't frequent such very often.




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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,043
    edited March 2019
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    ... holy shit.. a COE topic that was not started by Slapshot.. will wonders never cease !
    Do you dream of me when you sleep?  Honest question.  

    PS: No need for the witty "I know you are but what am I" retort or "Slapshot and Caspien sitting in a tree. K-I-S-S-I-N-G". 

    In every thread you post about Slapshot instead of the topic.  It does get tired.  
    So do you have anything substantial to contribute to this discussion?

    You post endlessly about COE, so much so, I would have sworn you were paid to do it if you didn't sound like such a jaded ex lover.
    It's kind of what you do in the CoE forum.  You post so much about ME that I think your description must be some form of projection :)

    I'm flattered, but again... do you have anything of substance to contribute to the CoE discussion?

    yah.. one post in 3 pages.. and lets get something clear, you are the one obsessing that I mentioned you. 


    I was simply expressing surprise that there was a topic about CoE's that was not made by it's #1 EdgeBoi 
    I will take that as a blatant NO and that you have zero to add to the CoE discussion.

    Thanks. Have a great weekend.
    Sweet dreams  :*
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,532
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    ... holy shit.. a COE topic that was not started by Slapshot.. will wonders never cease !
    Do you dream of me when you sleep?  Honest question.  

    PS: No need for the witty "I know you are but what am I" retort or "Slapshot and Caspien sitting in a tree. K-I-S-S-I-N-G". 

    In every thread you post about Slapshot instead of the topic.  It does get tired.  
    So do you have anything substantial to contribute to this discussion?

    You post endlessly about COE, so much so, I would have sworn you were paid to do it if you didn't sound like such a jaded ex lover.
    It's kind of what you do in the CoE forum.  You post so much about ME that I think your description must be some form of projection :)

    I'm flattered, but again... do you have anything of substance to contribute to the CoE discussion?

    yah.. one post in 3 pages.. and lets get something clear, you are the one obsessing that I mentioned you. 


    I was simply expressing surprise that there was a topic about CoE's that was not made by it's #1 EdgeBoi 
    I will take that as a blatant NO and that you have zero to add to the CoE discussion.

    Thanks. Have a great weekend.
    Sweet dreams  :*
    It took me directly telling you that was just voicing my amusement that there was a topic about CoE that you didn't start, for you to realize that I was just voicing my amusement that there as a topic about CoE that you didn't start.

    Well, You're Welcome.

    Have a great week end.
    EponyxDamor
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 295
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    I like the guy that basically called out SBS, to have an community manager reply with "Don't reply to this thread again". After someone modded his reply. 

    All he was speaking is the truth. No point saying every single CJ about this upcoming update blog. Getting my rewards from KS be nice at least. Only been waiting over 2 years for them, so cool to see that they are finally getting around to add them.
    In all fairness to the COE team, there already is a running thread about the past due dev blog, I can understand why they would want to keep the comments in the Community blog focused on more of the other content.
    That they have completely ignored. I could get why some may want to post in the CJ about their concerns. But modding people and telling them to shut up. Never the way to do things. 
    Didn't see what content was modded but they left in the core complaint which was directly related to the Community blog instead of just erasing it entirely.

    They did ask he not reply in that same thread, which is not the same as telling people to shut up.

    Company forums, their "house" as it were,  one has to respect their rules, just the way of things, which is why I don't frequent such very often.




    I get the feeling you have changed your tune about SBS. Yeah maybe the guy was out of line. But I counted 3 threads about progress updates. 2 have been closed and the one left remaining is getting ignored. It's pretty clear what SBS is doing at this rate. Why bother saying anything (outside of discord) when the problem will just go away. Well by go away, I naturally mean those people will just forget about the game all together. 

    But really Serpentius should have stepped it up and talked to him via voice chat, if he thinks the guy has that much of a problem with something. Something that he has done to me in the past. Maybe that's cause I'm a higher backer over some tier 1 that I doubt they give a flying crap about, who knows. Over just even trying to silent him in that thread. Not going to solve any problem, which again comes back around that I doubt they really care. 

    PS: Slapshot and Ungood you two are like kids. Just going back and forth at one another. Both wanting to get in the last word. Keep it up, it's a good laugh. Even if it's a bit weird.
    Gdemami
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,043
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    I like the guy that basically called out SBS, to have an community manager reply with "Don't reply to this thread again". After someone modded his reply. 

    All he was speaking is the truth. No point saying every single CJ about this upcoming update blog. Getting my rewards from KS be nice at least. Only been waiting over 2 years for them, so cool to see that they are finally getting around to add them.
    In all fairness to the COE team, there already is a running thread about the past due dev blog, I can understand why they would want to keep the comments in the Community blog focused on more of the other content.
    That they have completely ignored. I could get why some may want to post in the CJ about their concerns. But modding people and telling them to shut up. Never the way to do things. 
    Didn't see what content was modded but they left in the core complaint which was directly related to the Community blog instead of just erasing it entirely.

    They did ask he not reply in that same thread, which is not the same as telling people to shut up.

    Company forums, their "house" as it were,  one has to respect their rules, just the way of things, which is why I don't frequent such very often.




    I get the feeling you have changed your tune about SBS. Yeah maybe the guy was out of line. But I counted 3 threads about progress updates. 2 have been closed and the one left remaining is getting ignored. It's pretty clear what SBS is doing at this rate. Why bother saying anything (outside of discord) when the problem will just go away. Well by go away, I naturally mean those people will just forget about the game all together. 

    But really Serpentius should have stepped it up and talked to him via voice chat, if he thinks the guy has that much of a problem with something. Something that he has done to me in the past. Maybe that's cause I'm a higher backer over some tier 1 that I doubt they give a flying crap about, who knows. Over just even trying to silent him in that thread. Not going to solve any problem, which again comes back around that I doubt they really care. 

    PS: Slapshot and Ungood you two are like kids. Just going back and forth at one another. Both wanting to get in the last word. Keep it up, it's a good laugh. Even if it's a bit weird.
    Not any longer. I really would rather talk about the game than my stalker so my ignore list got its first inhabitant in 12 years.I know that having every thread derailed must have been annoying for you folks so this should take care of the problem.
    Gdemami

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,609
    edited March 2019
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:

    I get the feeling you have changed your tune about SBS. Yeah maybe the guy was out of line. But I counted 3 threads about progress updates. 2 have been closed and the one left remaining is getting ignored. It's pretty clear what SBS is doing at this rate. Why bother saying anything (outside of discord) when the problem will just go away. Well by go away, I naturally mean those people will just forget about the game all together. 

    But really Serpentius should have stepped it up and talked to him via voice chat, if he thinks the guy has that much of a problem with something. Something that he has done to me in the past. Maybe that's cause I'm a higher backer over some tier 1 that I doubt they give a flying crap about, who knows. Over just even trying to silent him in that thread. Not going to solve any problem, which again comes back around that I doubt they really care. 

    Naw, I haven't gone soft, but I do understand how to navigate forums, and with company run ones the snarky, angry approach rarely is well received nor accomplishes much.

    I still take my shots there, in a much more passive aggressive form or in ways which are hard to confirm as hostile. Sometimes I even extend an olive branch, especially when there is a reason to do so.

    As for Serpentius if he's an employee (or hopes to be one) then he has a job to do and his paycheck depends on the games success. He and Watru  have fenced before on the same topic and I'm sure will do so again.

    Here's the reality,  if this game ever launches in any semblance of a formal release it very likely won't happen in less than four years, so it's a long game being played here.

    ;)

    Gdemami

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  • Nubz_UniteNubz_Unite Member UncommonPosts: 30
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:

    I get the feeling you have changed your tune about SBS. Yeah maybe the guy was out of line. But I counted 3 threads about progress updates. 2 have been closed and the one left remaining is getting ignored. It's pretty clear what SBS is doing at this rate. Why bother saying anything (outside of discord) when the problem will just go away. Well by go away, I naturally mean those people will just forget about the game all together. 

    But really Serpentius should have stepped it up and talked to him via voice chat, if he thinks the guy has that much of a problem with something. Something that he has done to me in the past. Maybe that's cause I'm a higher backer over some tier 1 that I doubt they give a flying crap about, who knows. Over just even trying to silent him in that thread. Not going to solve any problem, which again comes back around that I doubt they really care. 

    Naw, I haven't gone soft, but I do understand how to navigate forums, and with company run ones the snarky, angry approach rarely is well received nor accomplishes much.

    I still take my shots there, in a much more passive aggressive form or in ways which are hard to confirm as hostile. Sometimes I even extend an olive branch, especially when there is a reason to do so.

    As for Serpentius if he's an employee (or hopes to be one) then he has a job to do and his paycheck depends on the games success. He and Watru  have fenced before on the same topic and I'm sure will do so again.

    Here's the reality,  if this game ever launches in any semblance of a formal release it very likely won't happen in less than four years, so it's a long game being played here.

    ;)

    AFAIK Serpentius is not only an employee but he is the community manager for CoE, anyone who has the tinted background on their posts are staff members
    AnOldFart
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,609
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:

    I get the feeling you have changed your tune about SBS. Yeah maybe the guy was out of line. But I counted 3 threads about progress updates. 2 have been closed and the one left remaining is getting ignored. It's pretty clear what SBS is doing at this rate. Why bother saying anything (outside of discord) when the problem will just go away. Well by go away, I naturally mean those people will just forget about the game all together. 

    But really Serpentius should have stepped it up and talked to him via voice chat, if he thinks the guy has that much of a problem with something. Something that he has done to me in the past. Maybe that's cause I'm a higher backer over some tier 1 that I doubt they give a flying crap about, who knows. Over just even trying to silent him in that thread. Not going to solve any problem, which again comes back around that I doubt they really care. 

    Naw, I haven't gone soft, but I do understand how to navigate forums, and with company run ones the snarky, angry approach rarely is well received nor accomplishes much.

    I still take my shots there, in a much more passive aggressive form or in ways which are hard to confirm as hostile. Sometimes I even extend an olive branch, especially when there is a reason to do so.

    As for Serpentius if he's an employee (or hopes to be one) then he has a job to do and his paycheck depends on the games success. He and Watru  have fenced before on the same topic and I'm sure will do so again.

    Here's the reality,  if this game ever launches in any semblance of a formal release it very likely won't happen in less than four years, so it's a long game being played here.

    ;)

    AFAIK Serpentius is not only an employee but he is the community manager for CoE, anyone who has the tinted background on their posts are staff members
    I wasn't sure so didn't want to assume, they've got something called community ambassadors which I don't think are employees, but they featured one or two in the blog.


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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,532
    edited March 2019
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    I like the guy that basically called out SBS, to have an community manager reply with "Don't reply to this thread again". After someone modded his reply. 

    All he was speaking is the truth. No point saying every single CJ about this upcoming update blog. Getting my rewards from KS be nice at least. Only been waiting over 2 years for them, so cool to see that they are finally getting around to add them.
    In all fairness to the COE team, there already is a running thread about the past due dev blog, I can understand why they would want to keep the comments in the Community blog focused on more of the other content.
    That they have completely ignored. I could get why some may want to post in the CJ about their concerns. But modding people and telling them to shut up. Never the way to do things. 
    Didn't see what content was modded but they left in the core complaint which was directly related to the Community blog instead of just erasing it entirely.

    They did ask he not reply in that same thread, which is not the same as telling people to shut up.

    Company forums, their "house" as it were,  one has to respect their rules, just the way of things, which is why I don't frequent such very often.




    I get the feeling you have changed your tune about SBS. Yeah maybe the guy was out of line. But I counted 3 threads about progress updates. 2 have been closed and the one left remaining is getting ignored. It's pretty clear what SBS is doing at this rate. Why bother saying anything (outside of discord) when the problem will just go away. Well by go away, I naturally mean those people will just forget about the game all together. 

    But really Serpentius should have stepped it up and talked to him via voice chat, if he thinks the guy has that much of a problem with something. Something that he has done to me in the past. Maybe that's cause I'm a higher backer over some tier 1 that I doubt they give a flying crap about, who knows. Over just even trying to silent him in that thread. Not going to solve any problem, which again comes back around that I doubt they really care. 

    PS: Slapshot and Ungood you two are like kids. Just going back and forth at one another. Both wanting to get in the last word. Keep it up, it's a good laugh. Even if it's a bit weird.
    It's weird, like, annoyingly wired to be honest. His ignoring me will be a welcome change to his normal antics of going full blown drama queen if I mention him at all and then WTF'ing all my posts, but it would not be the first time he said he was going to ignore me and then kept talking about me.. but I suppose I shall remain hopeful.

    In any event, I think the worst part of this game, is not it's progress, but that it puts a lot of features on the table that a lot of players want, very unique to MMO's features, that have taken 3+ years in text based MUD's, as well as several more years on "Live" development, to pull off well, but, to be honest, given they are untested in the current medium, no one would have been able to know for sure how hard they would have been to make and implement. This obviously causing problems, and he is failing on several ventures, like VoxElyra, that must have set him back quite a bit even if he is not willing to admit it, is also lost progress, so there is simply no way he would have ever hit any stretch goal after such set backs, but all to often any admitting of there being a problem or that things are going sideways tends to lose a lot of faith among the community, so much so, that developers feel obligated to fly the "All is well" banner right down till they close the doors and turn off the lights.

    He's kinda in a bad spot right now, no doubt, which, while might set the stage for people to use COE as a cautionary tale on not investing into crowed funded MMO's, in his case, it is also a good cautionary tale to not go to crowed funding to make an MMO, given how many people really do not seem to grasp what is involved in this kind of project, which sadly also seems to include Caspian himself.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,609
    Ungood said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said: 

    In any event, I think the worst part of this game, is not it's progress, but that it puts a lot of features on the table that a lot of players want, but, to be honest, given they are untested, no one would have been able to know for sure how hard they would have been to make and implement. This obviously causing problems, and all to often any admitting of there being a problem tends to lose a lot of faith among the community, so much so, that feel obligated to fly the "All is well" banner till they close the doors and turn off the lights.

    This is my concern, I can't see they have the resources to deliver on the level of complexity they are planning for.

    Every single system is a mini game into itself, and they plan on delivering dozens upon dozens of them.


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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Kyleran said:
    Ungood said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said: 

    In any event, I think the worst part of this game, is not it's progress, but that it puts a lot of features on the table that a lot of players want, but, to be honest, given they are untested, no one would have been able to know for sure how hard they would have been to make and implement. This obviously causing problems, and all to often any admitting of there being a problem tends to lose a lot of faith among the community, so much so, that feel obligated to fly the "All is well" banner till they close the doors and turn off the lights.

    This is my concern, I can't see they have the resources to deliver on the level of complexity they are planning for.

    Every single system is a mini game into itself, and they plan on delivering dozens upon dozens of them.


    Just like they planned to have a MUD, a voxel game and have SpatialOS as the fabric of the game.

    So clueless and incompetent.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,041
    Imagine the hilarity if they actually deliver  :D

    /Cheers,
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,532
    lahnmir said:
    Imagine the hilarity if they actually deliver  :D

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir


    I am pretty confident they will make something. I get the feel that Caspian will launch CoE in some form or another, if for no other reason than to spite his critics, and show them he made something. The question really at this point, is will it be the game he envisioned, the game he marketed, or will it be something else entirely. 

    But to be fair here, I do not have enough faith that he will make what he is marketing to invest money into it.

    But I am very confident that he will "Launch" something, and by launch, I mean, a game in some playable state, even if still mostly an Alpha.
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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,892
    edited March 2019
    Kyleran said:
    Ungood said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torrsk said: 

    In any event, I think the worst part of this game, is not it's progress, but that it puts a lot of features on the table that a lot of players want, but, to be honest, given they are untested, no one would have been able to know for sure how hard they would have been to make and implement. This obviously causing problems, and all to often any admitting of there being a problem tends to lose a lot of faith among the community, so much so, that feel obligated to fly the "All is well" banner till they close the doors and turn off the lights.

    This is my concern, I can't see they have the resources to deliver on the level of complexity they are planning for.

    Every single system is a mini game into itself, and they plan on delivering dozens upon dozens of them.


    Features that have never been done before can most of the time be reduced to components that have all been done before and predicting how much time and effort it takes to implement them isn't that much harder.

    The problem with new features is more often trying to predict how well they work in the game and whether the end result is fun or a catastrophe, not the technical side of things.

    On technical side any professional should be able to tell that CoE's features are impossible to implement with its current budget. The belief that a new studio could use some new innovation to make stuff faster or cheaper than established studios is just stupid, it fails more than 95% of the time.
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