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COE 0.5 Development Update, coming "soon"

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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 295
    They do waste a lot of time answering questions. The problem is they have to try and keep people hyped/involved in order to raise money. If there wasn't a funding issue they probably wouldn't be that concerned.

    Just my own view. I would take screenshots/short videos of what they are working on, over questions. While there has been some in the past, just seems like they are unnecessarily wasting their time on discord. Communities are keeping their members pretty active as it is. The problem I see happening is just lack of new subjects, which is the part we are in now. No new information has really happened for awhile. Can only talk about the same thing for so long. I have no idea how people even have anything new to ask them. Unless it's the same crap over and over, just new people asking it. I would love a new DJ on really anything. Seeing anything new they post, is just a community journal or some lore post. Well I can tell when something is a filler.
    GdemamiStaalBurgher
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,480
    Now then, about this thread, lets try to keep it focused on watching for the "soon" to be the released .5 Dev blog / fka State of Elyria message and its potential contents.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 16,978
    Caspien talking about 0.5 again in Discord...

    He never learns.  
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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 295
    Caspien talking about 0.5 again in Discord...

    He never learns.  

    You got me curious so I installed/joined the discord channel again. What he says is worrying on a few fronts. Basically teasing everyone non NDA that stuff is getting done, but zero way to prove it to anyone else. Well saying that is pointless. For all anyone knows, he is just talking crap. 

    Saying they are moving rapidly, but then changing his tone and saying releasing something now would steal his thunder a few months down the track. Surely if things are moving that fast, in a few months there be a whole range of new things to talk about/show off.

    Caspian saying he could update the greater community, but has no time. While every time he goes to do something, another sprint is done. Well that's all great for the people in NDA, but for everyone else, tough break? Also goes against his point from above that releasing something now would steal his thunder for later on. Either stuff is moving fast or it isn't.

    Seems he just wanted to find the one guy with the same viewpoint as him. Of course a 10k backer commenting he wouldn't mind waiting on the update for another 3-4 months and Caspian agreeing with him.. what?

    I'm not even sure why he keeps going on about sharing NDA information. I suppose this is the problem of merging the state of elyria update with the 0.5.0 update. I still don't see why he can't release a state of elyria update now and then 0.5 sometime later. 

    If anything the more I read, the bigger the tease the whole thing is. At least he doesn't make it come across like any update it coming soon. While quoting him saying "It's been so long now, we're well past halfway and it may make more sense to just wait until we're done with 0.5.0 so as not to take away from the work we've done." That of course comes down to how you interpret his comment. 

    Having most of that convo all on his side, only a few people were really saying anything differently. But when most of the people within that convo either I could see had a 10k tag or talked like they were within the alpha 1 group, kind of makes the whole thing pointless. Nothing like using an echo chamber to feel better about himself.
    KyleranGdemamiStaalBurgher[Deleted User]
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 16,978
    That’s him in a nutshell.  His biggest obstacle is that he surrounds himself with the Ivory Tower when what he needs is an adult to hold him on task.
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    IDK what goes through his head,maybe he is sane,maybe he is legit,however this is NOT how you build a great game.
    Sure a small handful get lucky with a good con story/sales job but for the vast majority,NOBODY is making a quality game from a kickstarter or crowd funding...NOBODY.
    SC the most obvious will not be good either,not even good enough to play for free and that is because crowd funding is a disorganized,dysfunctional way to build a game.
    Too bad,like i said he might be legit,he just picked the wrong option Travis,there is no option C.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,480
    Hmm, apparently it is "not logical" to expect a .5 update anytime very "soon", or JW has a very different interpretation of the word if he believes 3 to 4 months qualifies.

    Better settle in folks, we could be in for the long haul on this watch.


    GaladournLackingMMO

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  • DerryFHDerryFH Member UncommonPosts: 57
    Kyleran said:

    Better settle in folks, we could be in for the long haul on this watch.


    Not sure I can have that much popcorn and coke. 
    Watching closely the EA forum - don't want to miss the game release if I blink :-)
    ScotKyleranGaladourn
  • GaladournGaladourn Member RarePosts: 1,813
    edited February 2019
    ... in our previous episode: Caspian went berserk over biased news coverage; The SpatialOS issue was still looming threateningly over the Dev Team; Project Update was postponed due to updates not being ready to Update. Stay tuned to find out what's next, and much more, in this week's episode of "Chronicles of Elyria: A neverending MMO development roleplaying session"....
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  • AnOldFartAnOldFart Member RarePosts: 562
    I just saw a new post in the official announcement part of discord.

    Was like at last something new... 

    Then I clicked and thought ffs... 

    Caspian posted that it's the "last" chance to get the promotional items... 
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 16,978
    Looks like the frustration mounts:

    https://iis-prod.chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/30534/is-there-going-to-be-an-state-of-elyria-update

    That's the 3rd similar post I have seen recently.  Instead of being downvoted this one is up to +9

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,480
    edited February 2019
    Looks like the frustration mounts:

    https://iis-prod.chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/30534/is-there-going-to-be-an-state-of-elyria-update

    That's the 3rd similar post I have seen recently.  Instead of being downvoted this one is up to +9

    +25 as of Sat evening a significant groundswell now, the peasants are clearly revolting.
    Post edited by Kyleran on
    Galadourn

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,480
    edited February 2019
    Kyleran said:
    Looks like the frustration mounts:

    https://iis-prod.chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/30534/is-there-going-to-be-an-state-of-elyria-update

    That's the 3rd similar post I have seen recently.  Instead of being downvoted this one is up to +9

    +25 as of Sat evening a significant groundswell now, the peasants are clearly revolting.
    Maybe a good time to queue up some Twisted Sister.


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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 295
    edited February 2019
    Looks like the frustration mounts:

    https://iis-prod.chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/30534/is-there-going-to-be-an-state-of-elyria-update

    That's the 3rd similar post I have seen recently.  Instead of being downvoted this one is up to +9


    Thread is slowly going higher in the upvotes. Would have thought someone from SBS would reply to it. Probably too busy with discord to care about any forum thread.

    I really find this thread funny: https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/30540/new-game-time-line

    With some random person claiming to be an community ambassador (would have thought they have a tag to point this out to everyone, like how mods do) still saying the same BS about the game launching this year. They seem to be on a high horse the amount of times they parrot being an ambassador. 

    At least it's nice to see other people, some high tiers pointing out the flaw of doing just that. Would have thought they get told to say no dates, over just confusing the hell out of anyone asking. I totally can't see any foreseeable harm from saying the launch date.
    Kyleran
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 16,978
    edited February 2019
    Torrsk said:
    Looks like the frustration mounts:

    https://iis-prod.chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/30534/is-there-going-to-be-an-state-of-elyria-update

    That's the 3rd similar post I have seen recently.  Instead of being downvoted this one is up to +9


    Thread is slowly going higher in the upvotes. Would have thought someone from SBS would reply to it. Probably too busy with discord to care about any forum thread.

    I really find this thread funny: https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/30540/new-game-time-line

    With some random person claiming to be an community ambassador (would have thought they have a tag to point this out to everyone, like how mods do) still saying the same BS about the game launching this year. They seem to be on a high horse the amount of times they parrot being an ambassador. 

    At least it's nice to see other people, some high tiers pointing out the flaw of doing just that. Would have thought they get told to say no dates, over just confusing the hell out of anyone asking. I totally can't see any foreseeable harm from saying the launch date.
    Wow.  So the official Community Ambassador is telling new people and others asking for updates that the game is scheduled for full release by the end of the year.  The level of naivety required is absolutely stunning. It’s taken Caspien 4 months and counting just to do his 0.5 update. And she is saying they are going to have: Pre-Alpha, Alpha 1, Kingdoms Of Elyria, Alpha 2, Beta, Beta 2, Prologue, 3 month Headstart Exposition, and Launch by December? 

    This is is the result of an echo chamber.  A total and utter disassociation from reality.  This is also a direct result of Caspien failing to fulfill his Kickstarter promise and posting updated schedules on the website. I think I am going to go dig up and post his actual quotes about 0.5.
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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,090
    Kyleran said:
    Hmm, apparently it is "not logical" to expect a .5 update anytime very "soon", or JW has a very different interpretation of the word if he believes 3 to 4 months qualifies.

    Better settle in folks, we could be in for the long haul on this watch.


    What Martian months ?
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 16,978
    edited February 2019
    Hmm.. I grabbed all the quotes from Caspien on the 0.5.0 update that I could find but it won't let me upload the file.   Its only 600KB so its not size... I'll have to fool around later.

    Update: No idea why it won't let me post the jpeg


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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838
    Omg...
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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 295
    I would have assumed Caspian would have replied to one of these threads by now, on their forums. Thinking maybe he is just busy, look on discord and he is on there every day answering a bunch of different questions. 

    They may as well just remove their forums all together and direct anyone new to discord. Clearly don't care about anyone not on them. Yet the worse thing it seems to be doing is splitting the community down the middle. Those on discord, those not on it.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 16,978
    The Discord is where the most diehard hang out each day discussing thing like hair color of the Brudvir and how they they plan to make a living producing purple aromatic candles when the game launches.  The average backer is not going to sit in Discord all day for years before a game launches.  They are going to pop into the forums every so often to see what’s new. 

    Im going to try and send my jpeg of all the Discord quotes from Caspien related to 0.5 to my phone later and see if I can post it from there.  Really frustrating that I can’t get it uploaded.  It’s funny to see how he contradicts himself all the time.  
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,480
    Buried near the bottom of the Feb Communty Blog (there's a person who found plenty of time to communicate) was this small bullet pont.

    "0.5.0 Production update blog - We still have plans to share with you the news of our latest development adventure."

    So its still coming folks....."Soon"

    ;)

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 16,978
    Kyleran said:
    Buried near the bottom of the Feb Communty Blog (there's a person who found plenty of time to communicate) was this small bullet pont.

    "0.5.0 Production update blog - We still have plans to share with you the news of our latest development adventure."

    So its still coming folks....."Soon"

    ;)
    Did you read the top of that blog where they list all the recent “progress”?  My classification in parentheses:
    • For folks in the Early Access group, there were many updates posted throughout the month to the Early Access forum. If you have Alpha 1, make sure you check it out! Additionally, we added a new channel just for Early Access announcements so those who don't have early access (yet) can mute it if they don't wish to be pinged. Thank you for your feedback! (Another NDA tease)
    • Just like last February, love was in the air and a romantic love story celebrating Elyrian traditions was shared in this tale titled Love Fortunately. (Cash Shop)
    • The first shiny shared this month was the last of our armor sculpt series, where we shared the Neran Heavy Armor concept. (Concept art)
    • After the Lost Vault event late last year, many players were experiencing the wonderful issue of having too many items in their inventory. To remedy this, and to improve the overall functionality of a players inventory, we released a significant update to the website officially titled Inventory Management Update. (Website/Store)
    • Our annual festival of love returned with our Elyria and Chill promotion. Players shared their love and were able to purchase a Flower-cup Porcupine, Moonlight Delights, and more! Gift cards made a return as well and have stayed for the foreseeable future. Read the details here. (Cash Shop)
    • The next shiny we shared started a new series that kicked off with concept sketches of Brudvir architecture. Check out the drawings and read details shared by Snipehunter in this post. (concept Art)
    • Following on the heels of our first architecture sketch share, we followed up with the 2nd set in the series, and delved more deeply into why some of the structures appear to be built into a hill or submerged in the ground. (Concept Art)
    • A very anticipated feature, Surname Changes, was released! Now any player who desires to change their surname from their original reservation, or wants to extend their surname to all servers as nobility, is able to! Read the details here. (Cash Shop)
    • The last shiny of the month completed our Brudvir architecture sketches with larger structures, and delved deeper into how the Brudvir protect themselves using innovative methods during construction. (Concept Art)
    So by my count their progress consisted of the following:
    1 NDA Tease 
    3 Cash Shop
    4 Concept Art
    1 Website/Store

    Wonderful progress... well actually there is absolutely zero in that list that shows me any progress in the game at all. Not one of those.  When your list of progress consists of things players “were able to purchase” and Concept art... I think that is pathetic.

    This then is closed out (as you pointed out) by saying they “still have plans to share” the 0.5.0 Update.  And some people (including their official Community Ambassador) are still telling people that the game will launch in 2019.   Absolutely amazing.  This 0.5.0 Update is the entire CoE development in a nutshell.  

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,480
    I did read the top of the blog, like you, I considered none of it as any form of useful "progress", just the usual fluff, but at least the Community Manager tried.


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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Kyleran said:
    Buried near the bottom of the Feb Communty Blog (there's a person who found plenty of time to communicate) was this small bullet pont.

    "0.5.0 Production update blog - We still have plans to share with you the news of our latest development adventure."

    So its still coming folks....."Soon"

    ;)
    Soon.  Geologic time.



    Kyleran

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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 295
    I like the guy that basically called out SBS, to have an community manager reply with "Don't reply to this thread again". After someone modded his reply. 

    All he was speaking is the truth. No point saying every single CJ about this upcoming update blog. Getting my rewards from KS be nice at least. Only been waiting over 2 years for them, so cool to see that they are finally getting around to add them.
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