Too many contradictory ways which produce varying results based upon their system of measurement. As an example, within the site mmo population there are different people who have said the criteria they use can be altered by certain variables to show different results. AS an example, SWTOR ranks #11 on their list in terms of activity. If you change the criteria to current subs (active or not) it jumps to number 2. If you take away the free player population on some of the games, they plummet many numeric levels. In situations like this, if you want a definitive criteria, you need to establish clear specifics of what your measuring and list the potential variables which could change those numbers greatly.
I dont what the most populated MMO but I feel strongly that WoW is still the MMO with the most subs hands down. I started playing regularly a month or two ago and no matter where I go their are people around.
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No way WoW has 7 million subs right now. I call bullshit.
At the moment i would be surprised if they even had over 2 million active subs, though this will change when Classic goes live, at that point i think 7 million subs is possible.
I think FFXIV will surpass WoW in the forseeable future, that games player number is still on the rise, contrary to just about every other MMO.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
FFXIV is still worse game than WoW, this game can shine for a little when there is new xpac and WoW xpac is already washed up, that's all, but still shine not surpass...I'm big fan of FF series but not that big when it comes to FFXIV, it's not bad but still, yeah...
People keep saying wow,gw2, ff xiv. But the real highest populated mmo is actually king of glory, they even make an anime titled king of avatar, and live action tv series about it. the population is staggering 150 million, it made $450 mill per month, but it is a Chinese mmo for your phone by tencent. I don't think I will play it. even though they have western version.
I think FFXIV will surpass WoW in the forseeable future, that games player number is still on the rise, contrary to just about every other MMO.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
FFXIV has probably already exceeded WoW's subscriber base, its likely Classic will change that, but until then, FFXIV in all probability has the most paid subscriptions, though when it comes to player numbers, both ESO and BDO have more players than WoW, at this point i would say that WoW's future is hanging by a thread, and that thread is called Classic.
A year or two ago I rolled a dwarf warrior in WoW. And while I saw some peeps in cities, for the most part I ran into almost no one leveling up until I got closer to the highest level.
Depends on what server your on. I have tunes on Dalaran and Cenarion Circle. Dalaran has always been busy for me all all levels while Cenarion Circle, I only ever see people around the top levels though I never have to wait more than a couple minutes for a dungeon when I que.
I actually perfer playing on Cenarion Circle since I don't have to battle anyone for mobs and finding rares is much easier. Taming spirit beasts is so much easier on my hunter. Got 6 of them in a couple hours when I moved my hunter there.
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People keep saying wow,gw2, ff xiv. But the real highest populated mmo is actually king of glory, they even make an anime titled king of avatar, and live action tv series about it. the population is staggering 150 million, it made $450 mill per month, but it is a Chinese mmo for your phone by tencent. I don't think I will play it. even though they have western version.
That is a moba. Similar to League of Legend.
Most popular mmorpg probably fantasy westworld journal from China.
I highly doubt FF14 is even close to wow population even if you exclude the pay by hour wow number in China. I believe a while ago the number I heard is 500k for FF franchise, that is include FF11 and FF14. People are talking about it on reddit and guess the number to be at 600k.(which I doubt it is even that much)
I think FFXIV will surpass WoW in the forseeable future, that games player number is still on the rise, contrary to just about every other MMO.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
Interesting, where does the information come from that FFXIVs active player numbers are on the rise.
In the case of ESO Zenimax recently announced the need to boost up all of their hardware due to a large influx of players in the past year.
They actually had log-in queues on the EU PC server for a bit.
login queues for FFXIV too, however, no such problems with WoW, they have even 'consolidated' the servers, have to wonder, is WoW's remaining playerbase over 1 million, or under, and how many of them are using the sub level 20 free to play options
Funny, people actually believe FFXIV, ESO and BDO got more active players than WoW. That can work in your wild dreams full of imagination and fantasy but in reality? C'mon...
But on positive note, it's sweet these aged oldschool folks are still kids in their hearts living in imaginary world where you are free to make up your own active player's numbers and convincing yourself WoW numbers are so low, to be precise, WoW numbers are low compared to previous years, but it's still way enough to be number 1 and with classic and new xpac announcement it's just going to stay that way for some time.
You can cry, bite, defend your worthless MMO's you are playing but you can't dethrone WoW because you want it to be dethroned , not in this universe my bois
You can try it again in 3-5 years, it's reasonable time to try dethrone WoW and be maybe successful
with love
Your Kertin
PS: getting less than 5 LOL's and WTF's will be too disappointing in this blind community, so show me some love
POE listed as a mmorpg wrong on both accounts,it is not a rpg nor a mmo,a shallow spammy killing useless fodder socket game yes but not a mmorpg.
The post says lot's <<LOT'S of games jockeying for the 11-20 spot including Star trek Online,that right there says how bad the genre is when STO is listed as nearly a #11.
That's the best description on POE I ever heard lol. And yeah they really hype POE on that site more than any other game. As far as the popular MMO's goes I now avoid the popular ones now so not important to me.
Funny, people actually believe FFXIV, ESO and BDO got more active players than WoW. That can work in your wild dreams full of imagination and fantasy but in reality? C'mon...
But on positive note, it's sweet these aged oldschool folks are still kids in their hearts living in imaginary world where you are free to make up your own active player's numbers and convincing yourself WoW numbers are so low, to be precise, WoW numbers are low compared to previous years, but it's still way enough to be number 1 and with classic and new xpac announcement it's just going to stay that way for some time.
You can cry, bite, defend your worthless MMO's you are playing but you can't dethrone WoW because you want it to be dethroned , not in this universe my bois
You can try it again in 3-5 years, it's reasonable time to try dethrone WoW and be maybe successful
with love
Your Kertin
PS: getting less than 5 LOL's and WTF's will be too disappointing in this blind community, so show me some love
Really have to wonder, will you be terribly disappointed when Classic launches and what remains of BfA's playerbase melts? Classic is probably the biggest threat to WoW BfA that has ever existed, kind of ironic eh. Yeah, its because BfA failed so abysmally that it has such a low player count, that is why FFXIV, ESO and BDO etc. have larger playerbases, of course Classic is capable of changing this dynamic, as long as Blizzard doesn't totally mess things up, and frankly, i think that is something they have demonstrated themselves to be amply qualified to do, mores the pity.
How do we calculate without first agreeing on what a mmorpg is?
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing POE at the moment.
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Funny, people actually believe FFXIV, ESO and BDO got more active players than WoW. That can work in your wild dreams full of imagination and fantasy but in reality? C'mon...
But on positive note, it's sweet these aged oldschool folks are still kids in their hearts living in imaginary world where you are free to make up your own active player's numbers and convincing yourself WoW numbers are so low, to be precise, WoW numbers are low compared to previous years, but it's still way enough to be number 1 and with classic and new xpac announcement it's just going to stay that way for some time.
You can cry, bite, defend your worthless MMO's you are playing but you can't dethrone WoW because you want it to be dethroned , not in this universe my bois
You can try it again in 3-5 years, it's reasonable time to try dethrone WoW and be maybe successful
with love
Your Kertin
PS: getting less than 5 LOL's and WTF's will be too disappointing in this blind community, so show me some love
Really have to wonder, will you be terribly disappointed when Classic launches and what remains of BfA's playerbase melts? Classic is probably the biggest threat to WoW BfA that has ever existed, kind of ironic eh. Yeah, its because BfA failed so abysmally that it has such a low player count, that is why FFXIV, ESO and BDO etc. have larger playerbases, of course Classic is capable of changing this dynamic, as long as Blizzard doesn't totally mess things up, and frankly, i think that is something they have demonstrated themselves to be amply qualified to do, mores the pity.
Funny, people actually believe FFXIV, ESO and BDO got more active players than WoW. That can work in your wild dreams full of imagination and fantasy but in reality? C'mon...
But on positive note, it's sweet these aged oldschool folks are still kids in their hearts living in imaginary world where you are free to make up your own active player's numbers and convincing yourself WoW numbers are so low, to be precise, WoW numbers are low compared to previous years, but it's still way enough to be number 1 and with classic and new xpac announcement it's just going to stay that way for some time.
You can cry, bite, defend your worthless MMO's you are playing but you can't dethrone WoW because you want it to be dethroned , not in this universe my bois
You can try it again in 3-5 years, it's reasonable time to try dethrone WoW and be maybe successful
with love
Your Kertin
PS: getting less than 5 LOL's and WTF's will be too disappointing in this blind community, so show me some love
Why do you believe that WoW has c. 7M subscribers?
I can tell you what Activision Blizzard last gave out: 5.4M. And a quarter later WoW revenue which indicated 3.8M. And a quarter later Blizzard revenue which indicated 3M. Numbers including China and all based on quarterly financial reports btw - the risk getting locked up if they lie reports.
Maybe you believe it was stellar growth in the Chinese playerbase followng the abolition of "gametime" and the introduction of a mandatory sub. Sure most people believe this caused many dissatisfied players to leave but maybe you see it as a positive.
Maybe you believe it has been the stellar reception of the recent expansions - accompanied with further recent declines in Blizzard's quarterly revenue and staff layoffs. (Note: we can't say these days that the decline is just due to WoW although at the time they took over King they did warn that WoW was still a big factor.)
I don't want to put words into your mouth though. You have stated that WoW has 7M subs. Activision Blizzard haven't said this - I thought they might have done! - but on what do you base your number. Curious.
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Lahnmir
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But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
I actually perfer playing on Cenarion Circle since I don't have to battle anyone for mobs and finding rares is much easier. Taming spirit beasts is so much easier on my hunter. Got 6 of them in a couple hours when I moved my hunter there.
I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.
In the case of ESO Zenimax recently announced the need to boost up all of their hardware due to a large influx of players in the past year.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing POE at the moment.
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Most popular mmorpg probably fantasy westworld journal from China.
I highly doubt FF14 is even close to wow population even if you exclude the pay by hour wow number in China. I believe a while ago the number I heard is 500k for FF franchise, that is include FF11 and FF14. People are talking about it on reddit and guess the number to be at 600k.(which I doubt it is even that much)
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But on positive note, it's sweet these aged oldschool folks are still kids in their hearts living in imaginary world where you are free to make up your own active player's numbers and convincing yourself WoW numbers are so low, to be precise, WoW numbers are low compared to previous years, but it's still way enough to be number 1 and with classic and new xpac announcement it's just going to stay that way for some time.
You can cry, bite, defend your worthless MMO's you are playing but you can't dethrone WoW because you want it to be dethroned
You can try it again in 3-5 years, it's reasonable time to try dethrone WoW and be maybe successful
with love
Your Kertin
PS: getting less than 5 LOL's and WTF's will be too disappointing in this blind community, so show me some love
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing POE at the moment.
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I can tell you what Activision Blizzard last gave out: 5.4M. And a quarter later WoW revenue which indicated 3.8M. And a quarter later Blizzard revenue which indicated 3M. Numbers including China and all based on quarterly financial reports btw - the risk getting locked up if they lie reports.
Maybe you believe it was stellar growth in the Chinese playerbase followng the abolition of "gametime" and the introduction of a mandatory sub. Sure most people believe this caused many dissatisfied players to leave but maybe you see it as a positive.
Maybe you believe it has been the stellar reception of the recent expansions - accompanied with further recent declines in Blizzard's quarterly revenue and staff layoffs. (Note: we can't say these days that the decline is just due to WoW although at the time they took over King they did warn that WoW was still a big factor.)
I don't want to put words into your mouth though. You have stated that WoW has 7M subs. Activision Blizzard haven't said this - I thought they might have done! - but on what do you base your number. Curious.
How do you compare numbers when A has a mandatory monthly sub; B is b2p no mandatory sub; C is f2p; D has a mandatory 3 day or 10 day sub and so on.
https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/01/diamond-casino-and-resort-sees-biggest-player-numbers-since-gta-onlines-launch-in-2013
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