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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,303
    Thanks for repairing the mobile site. Much love.
    MadFrenchie
  • Haki88Haki88 Member UncommonPosts: 24
    This is really not for mmorpg.com news... if he didnt like it, you could exchange emails and talk about it thats all.

    Suggestion: Add ratings to news/reviews, so people can vote if news/reviews are good, not like some id1ot who writed before about Atlas saying its good bla bla and most of people have 30fps, some people cant even run game not because of their pc but because of game, game errors, cant join server etc, where is now that author who writed good things about Atlas? Game lost 1/3 of players in one month. I still dont want to think some authors are paid to write good news/reviews but this kind of things really keeps you wondering or they are really not good game authors because game author is gamer not some nerd who finished college and plays facebook games.
  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 4,925
    Meh, this site might not draw in all the kids but there's a reason a lot of the users have stuck around for years and visit every day. Everyone, including the writers, is allowed their opinions here as long as they aren't personally attacking someone in some way.
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  • MendelMendel Member EpicPosts: 3,058
    Congratulations!  Tim managed to infuriate a developer so that they decided to withhold access to this site.  In my view, that leaves more time to focus on important things.  Thinning out nuisances leaves the group free for other, more productive pursuits.  I feel like this article and its aftermath slammed the door on the developer-in-question ever seeing a cent of mine.

    Oddly, this whole mess reaffirms my faith in the human animal.  We see something wrong, we point it out.  No other animal does that so eloquently or voraciously.



    GdemamiAlmostLancelot

    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,303
    edited January 30
    I personally come back for the users I respect. There's quite a few of them, and if you're among my favorites, it's probably obvious to you (cheers, Frenchie). But even some of the users with whom I often disagree (namely Torval and DMKano) have my respect and regard. 

    I can count on one hand the users that I actually have problems with (edit: a certain lol-spammer who won't go away obviously being one of them), and that's fairly remarkable. It's a pretty healthy forum. 
    Post edited by Aeander on
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  • SharneSharne Member UncommonPosts: 143
    The one thing I have never questioned about this site (in 11 years) is its integrity when it comes to articles and reviews.

    100 (ish) posts in 11 years should really tell you that I come here for a reason, which is generally not to voice my own opinion, personally its the one game site I visit every day :)


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  • GroqstrongGroqstrong Member UncommonPosts: 230
    edited January 30
    Ive been on this site for years never thought it to be a problem. If this site is a business then it needs to generate revenue and thats ok. I get the data i need on mmorpgs from this site wether its from articles or conversing with the registered users.
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,303
    Mendel said:
    Congratulations!  Tim managed to infuriate a developer so that they decided to withhold access to this site.  In my view, that leaves more time to focus on important things.  Thinning out nuisances leaves the group free for other, more productive pursuits.  I feel like this article and its aftermath slammed the door on the developer-in-question ever seeing a cent of mine.

    Oddly, this whole mess reaffirms my faith in the human animal.  We see something wrong, we point it out.  No other animal does that so eloquently or voraciously.



    I probably had almost as much to do with it as Tim did. The Chronicles of Elyria developer explicitly called out "MMORPG.com users" for not wanting their game, and I delivered quite possibly the most scathing opinion of the game right on the front page of that same thread.

    And if I'm right, I still wouldn't take my opinion back. The game looks like trash, it's easily the most unappealing of the crowdfunded MMOs behind only SotA, and I'm within my rights to say so.
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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,795
    All this is over Chronicles of Elyria?


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  • rodarinrodarin Member RarePosts: 2,412
    Its amazing it still stays running since there hasnt been an MMO worth mentioning released in the past 5 years.
  • summerstringssummerstrings Member UncommonPosts: 66
    I must admit I prefer Massivelyop because I always get the impression this site is slightly swayed with a positive bias by the games that advertise on it but a few of the writers on here still come up with interesting articles and the members forums are sometimes useful to get an idea what people think of a new game .
  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,762
    I come here for the nostalgia 2000 era website look. Everyone else moved on with web2.0 and then 3.0 and then modern classic and then modern classic 2.0. But mmorpg.com? They said fuck that noise we are keeping the pile of garbage look from 2000 everything in boxes and shapes. Whitespace? Fuck whitespace we say! It's really quite good.
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  • SharneSharne Member UncommonPosts: 143
    Hashbrick said:
    I come here for the nostalgia 2000 era website look. Everyone else moved on with web2.0 and then 3.0 and then modern classic and then modern classic 2.0. But mmorpg.com? They said fuck that noise we are keeping the pile of garbage look from 2000 everything in boxes and shapes. Whitespace? Fuck whitespace we say! It's really quite good.
    Can we have a 'burn the blasphemer' button added please
  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 4,925
    Hashbrick said:
    I come here for the nostalgia 2000 era website look. Everyone else moved on with web2.0 and then 3.0 and then modern classic and then modern classic 2.0. But mmorpg.com? They said fuck that noise we are keeping the pile of garbage look from 2000 everything in boxes and shapes. Whitespace? Fuck whitespace we say! It's really quite good.
    They tried changing the look a few years back. I assume the response from the regular users wasn't great so they've kept things as they were, for now.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 4,303
    Sharne said:
    Hashbrick said:
    I come here for the nostalgia 2000 era website look. Everyone else moved on with web2.0 and then 3.0 and then modern classic and then modern classic 2.0. But mmorpg.com? They said fuck that noise we are keeping the pile of garbage look from 2000 everything in boxes and shapes. Whitespace? Fuck whitespace we say! It's really quite good.
    Can we have a 'burn the blasphemer' button added please
    Yes. I'd also like to request a "blood for the blood god" button. I think it would add much nuance to the discourse.
    Sharne
  • casdegerecasdegere Member UncommonPosts: 15
    edited January 30
    <blockquote-Sovrath> 
    The issue is that if a writer/columnist does say something about a game that doesn't align with what some players think, they want that columnist to be more vitreolic about the whole thing.</div><div><br></div><div>They aren't looking for a discussion on the game but more of a torch and pitchfork affair. When they don't get torches &amp; pitchforks they start yelling and screaming about scandal and conspiracy. <br></div><div><br></div><div>It's like they don't know what to do with their anger so just blast it at the easiest target.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not saying that there aren't people out there who don't try to cover things up or who don't take bribes/sell indulgences. <br></div><div><br></div><div>but if everything that a player disagrees with is automatically a conspiracy then there is no room for anything else. It's either the players' way or the highway.</div><div><br></div><div>And that's not a reasonable or healthy way to deal with things.<br></div></div>
    </blockquote>



    This is why I've been here so long and have very few posts. I come here, learn what I can and take opinions with a grain of salt before I buy. Those I don't agree with are usually handled as the ones I do...in silence. I come, I read and I am better informed for it i think. A service? I think so.

    I was speaking in terms of being on the disagreeable or devils advocate side. I'll be 50 years old in July and I've been playing PC games since 1996. I think I will always be playing them, interested about them and reading about them because its 'my thing'.

    I think companies who act like children when they get a bad review or have a low standing on the hype meter know they have a sucky game. But once you go in a direction (SoTA for instance) it is very difficult and costly to change much, especially if you are being crowd-funded like so many games are these days. I bought into SoTA and SC and subsequently sold my assets from these games for a little profit if there was any if that says anything.

    I disdain dishonesty in all of its forms and for those game producers that attack dissenting options or try to remove them on the game production side (on their own forums usually) and writers who pander instead of 'tell us what they really think' I shake my head silently. MMORP does a pretty good job at calling it like it is though and so I keep coming back. (thanks guys)

    And I do know that some of the disparage is unwarranted to. Sometimes PVPers thrash MMO games because they do not offer things like 'full loot' or 'open world pvp everywhere' and the like. And the reverse is often true as well. I'm not one of those folks who thinks my 'preferences' if not met make a game trash but often venom spouts out form people. (do to anonymity most likely) I silently pass them up though I am presently looking at some pvp games to try.


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  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,296
    I come here, look at articles for games, then goto the comments generally
  • TimEisenTimEisen ColumnistMember EpicPosts: 3,290
    Tim? Who is Tim? I only read the site from my desktop and every single article on the feed is from suzie.

    The hardware reviews here are are rubbish but the game reviews (except for the fallout 76 fanboy ones) seem pretty fair although often seem to lack the depth of articles found other sites.

    Basically, I come here daily to get the quck synopsis before moving outward for more in-depth analysis...

    This specific article reeks of butt-hurt-ary, but again I don't know who "Tim" is or why S. Ford is letting him cloud up her news reel.

    No comment, we are legion, thanks, S. Ford
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 26,530
    I must admit I prefer Massivelyop because I always get the impression this site is slightly swayed with a positive bias by the games that advertise on it but a few of the writers on here still come up with interesting articles and the members forums are sometimes useful to get an idea what people think of a new game .
    I go their occasionally but in truth, I prefer it here. I like that the discussions are front and center. I think I'm more interested in this site because of the discussions about the news.

    I mean, is it even possible to just start your own thread there? I don't see it. Maybe there is?



  • SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 33,112
    @Sovrath If you go to the main Forum page and to the forum you want like The Pub or General Gaming and there's a blue "New Discussion" button. :)


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 


  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 26,530
    SBFord said:
    @Sovrath If you go to the main Forum page and to the forum you want like The Pub or General Gaming and there's a blue "New Discussion" button. :)
    lol, no I was talking about Massively. A huge reason I'm here is because of the discussions which you very conveniently put in the center.

    At Massively, I think you just have to visit the news stories and can just make comments.

    I suspect you read my "there" as "here." <3


    SBFordMendel



  • PalebanePalebane Member RarePosts: 3,563
    It’s ok to be biased as long as you are honest about it, imo. Part of being good at journalism is knowing what will get attention, I assume. And having a responsibility to the publishers of the games, and an audience to talk about them to, would be hard to juggle. It’s up to the consumer as to the value of the information presented. If someone doesnt like the information, I guess they could complain about it and try to get attention, or just go read a different website.
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  • goozmaniagoozmania Member UncommonPosts: 256


    I like this site because it focuses on the games. There is no virtue signaling or activism, just MMORPGs. Keep up the good work!



    I assure you there is virtue signalling... Check out the articles from the Jessica Price/GW2 debacle.
  • FacelessSaviorFacelessSavior Member UncommonPosts: 173
    edited January 30
    Every word uttered or written is done so with atleast a minimal amount of Bias. People should be able to take that for what it is. What begins to annoy me is when the majority of the piece is pandering to the writer's opinion. I want facts and specs about the game. How many players per server, what are the pvp restrictions. Is it hub based or open world.

    Too often it seems hard information about the games is glossed over, or completely ignored, in favor of the writer sharing their overall opinion. There are times when I read reviews here and the only real knowledge I have about the game's systems and/or style, is whether or not the author liked it or not. :/
  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,630
    Ungood said:
    and here I was expecting some humor piece about how it was discovered that all the posters were jaded hate mongering rageholics.. or something along those lines... or maybe cats.. maybe we are all just cats at keyboards waiting for our humans to feed us so we are just being grumpy.
    And just who says I can't be both?


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