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New Caspien tantrum about news coverage

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  • LokeroLokero Member RarePosts: 1,514
    SBFord said:


    Oh well, as I said, not going to worry overly much about it and hope that those who are behind this management style and the game itself get what they're hoping for in time.
    Ha, well, I don't know if they will get what they are hoping for, but I suspect they will get back exactly what they are offering... lots of anger and resentment.

    I've been saying this for a long time, but since it's the same old story, I'll say it again:

    I would have more faith in this project if Caspian never spoke to the public, at all.  Every time he speaks, I get the image of a 5 year-old sitting in a daycare throwing blocks in a fit of rage.
    KyleranAnOldFartMendelMrMelGibson
  • NorseGodNorseGod Member EpicPosts: 2,636
    Tiller said:
    I remember a time when SOE did something similar over 'angry vets' on the SWG forum here. It forced MMORPG.com to start deleting threads, then when people started leaving the site over it they tried to make them happy by creating a separate forum for disgruntled players to post their grievances. All this in an effort to keep them out of the general forum. That "Veteran Refuge' forum blew up, leaving the general forum empty for sometime. Fast forward to today, the game no longer exists.

    This isn't the same thing, but attacking game sites and their users is never a good idea.
    That's why Reddit and the Chans are doing so well.

    I still like to come here too though. I just don't expect a serious discussion due to ROC and bias.

    But hey, their site, their rules. Amiright?
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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    They couldn't even make a MUD.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 13,481
    Nilden said:
    They couldn't even make a MUD.
    Hey thats unfair!

    Of course they made the MUD.  Caspien even has the screenshots to prove it!




    They just chose to UPGRADE it to minecraft-lite VoxElyria


    Which sadly.. they canceled.   But no work was wasted!  The MUD and VOX actually were created to help save development time!  This is clearly demonstrated by their repeatedly demonstrated ability to miss ETAs by years...

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  • axulthrullaxulthrull Member UncommonPosts: 42
    heyyyyyyyyy caspiannnnnn
    your a whiney little biotch
    Kyleran
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 5,822
    WooHoo I just made Epic..

    and have nothing further to add to this discussion.. 

    Well.. besides VoXElyra might have been pretty cool.. 
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    edited January 2019
    <reads Caspian's post>

    I am reminded only of the upside of traditional publishers.  They don't generally allow devs to rant and rave like this.
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  • TierlessTierless ColumnistMember EpicPosts: 3,379
    Nilden said:
    They couldn't even make a MUD.
    Hey thats unfair!

    Of course they made the MUD.  Caspien even has the screenshots to prove it!




    They just chose to UPGRADE it to minecraft-lite VoxElyria


    Which sadly.. they canceled.   But no work was wasted!  The MUD and VOX actually were created to help save development time!  This is clearly demonstrated by their repeatedly demonstrated ability to miss ETAs by years...

    I never saw this, probably a good thing I didn’t. Im so...confused. 
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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,797
    NorseGod said:
    Tiller said:
    I remember a time when SOE did something similar over 'angry vets' on the SWG forum here. It forced MMORPG.com to start deleting threads, then when people started leaving the site over it they tried to make them happy by creating a separate forum for disgruntled players to post their grievances. All this in an effort to keep them out of the general forum. That "Veteran Refuge' forum blew up, leaving the general forum empty for sometime. Fast forward to today, the game no longer exists.

    This isn't the same thing, but attacking game sites and their users is never a good idea.
    That's why Reddit and the Chans are doing so well.

    I still like to come here too though. I just don't expect a serious discussion due to ROC and bias.

    But hey, their site, their rules. Amiright?
    I am rather confused now...

    You are aware he is talking about a situation from about 10 years ago, right?
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 37,926
    Exclusive access to what? The only thing they have published is a cash shop for items to a game that will never exist.
    Cash shop is an understatement, they have put out zero gameplay content the past year and stall with pointless community contests, every single week they come out with new in game items for 30-40$, the studios is broke and they are leading their community on.
    The burn rate is real.

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member EpicPosts: 10,974
    I'm a little disappointed, in terms of our community being called out through a developer tantrum, I expected it a little later in 2019.  At least March. This is way too early in the year, it's going to be very hard to beat that, the community will certainly have to work harder if we're going to have a "When Developers Attack" montage by the end of the year.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 13,481
    edited January 2019
    Here is the CURRENT Countdown on the Kingdom website that King @Dleatherus runs (PS just look at the first box for a laugh).  This was all based on stuff given by Caspien and SBS.  This was stuff their most dedicated community was told.  It's based on the "LAST POSSIBLE DATE" provided by SBS.    For those wondering, the only box that can be checked off is Server Selection which IMHO was just needed so they could figure out how many more "Royalty" packages they could sell on each server.  Should be a busy year :)

    But it's mean old MMORPG.COM and Massively that are to blame.   Too funny.

    They haven’t even had the courtesy to update projections.


    http://bordweallcoe.com/countdown/
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,122
    edited January 2019
    SBFord said:
    I'm not sure what an "indirect request" actually is. Oh well, it's Saturday so I'm not going to waste any time pondering the meaning.

    Get out in that sunshine, folks...unless you're anywhere in the polar vortex, that is... D:
    grrr it's minus 12 here and loads of snow to shovel.I remember when i loved the snow and winter about...........oh 40 years ago lol.

    Part of me feels sorry for this guy,he is doing nothing different than the rest of the developers which is try and deceive and manipulate money out of gamer's.

    I have a pretty good hunch as to what "indirectly" refers to but not going there.
    I feel the industry is going through a phase,one that is very hostile,looking for ways to generate money out of nothing.It is actually out of hand,i look over at Steam releases and seems 99% are all early access.


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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 5,822
    I call Shenanigans on the OP, there is no way Caspian could write anything with that few words.
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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,670
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  • XodicXodic Member EpicPosts: 1,335
    @Slapshot1188 's obsession will most likely be the most entertaining thing to come from Chronicles of Elyria - and I'm okay with that.
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  • goldboyy45goldboyy45 Member UncommonPosts: 270
    Here is the CURRENT Countdown on the Kingdom website that King @Dleatherus runs (PS just look at the first box for a laugh).  This was all based on stuff given by Caspien and SBS.  This was stuff their most dedicated community was told.  It's based on the "LAST POSSIBLE DATE" provided by SBS.    For those wondering, the only box that can be checked off is Server Selection which IMHO was just needed so they could figure out how many more "Royalty" packages they could sell on each server.  Should be a busy year :)

    But it's mean old MMORPG.COM and Massively that are to blame.   Too funny.

    They haven’t even had the courtesy to update projections.


    http://bordweallcoe.com/countdown/

    I think by end of  this year, around nov/dec 2019 they will put out a pre Elyria alpha for the nobles, just to run around in town etc, it will have nothing promised, it will be just to show ppl they have something. In terms of serious Alphas/Betas, I will not even post a hypothetical timeline as i don't see  it happening as long as Caspian is in charge.
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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 295
    It's only sad and dam funny this isn't the first time he has lost his shit. He really seems too bloody sensitive. He really should never been replying to the public or even talking on the forums. He can't handle any truth being said to him or even half truths. It's like he takes it straight to the heart, no matter what is said. But then over being mature and taking a step back to think about it. Goes into some immature teen state and attacks straight away. Showing the world how utterly hurt whatever made him feel. 

    He has reacted like this so many times, it's very clearly just a character flaw. Each time I think he would learn. But it's like he needs others to tell him it's all going to be ok and not to listen to those "bullies". Which I can only picture how the convo went.
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  • some-clueless-guysome-clueless-guy Member UncommonPosts: 227
    This man-child should just learn to swallow his pride and understand that at the present moment every criticism about the game is well founded and deserved. The "right" way to react to criticism in this case is to admit mea culpa, apologize for the delays (or in the case of MMORPG.com's article the lack of transparency) and move on... But of course the temptation to throw a tantrum is too hard to resist and here we have the results.

    If he is the one who has the last work in there, I pity those working under him.
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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    edited January 2019
    You can typically judge a game by its studio leader(s)...

    I don't think much else needs to be said beyond that.

    *added "typically" for brawndo drinkers
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 37,926
    I'm a little disappointed, in terms of our community being called out through a developer tantrum, I expected it a little later in 2019.  At least March. This is way too early in the year, it's going to be very hard to beat that, the community will certainly have to work harder if we're going to have a "When Developers Attack" montage by the end of the year.
    I suppose if he wont come to us anymore then we could go to them and all register on the forums.  Of course it is not the super top secret forums or the super duper super friends / legion of doom only forums but we can still spread the love and offer kool aid to the cult members.
    Fun observation,  Caspian rarely posts on his own forum, come to think of it,  I've rarely seen any of the devs post there.

    I think they dislike posting things in print which might hold them accountable.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 13,481
    Kyleran said:

    I think they dislike posting things in print which might hold them accountable.
    I can't for the life of me imagine why that would be...

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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 295
    Kyleran said:
    Fun observation,  Caspian rarely posts on his own forum, come to think of it,  I've rarely seen any of the devs post there.

    I think they dislike posting things in print which might hold them accountable.
    They basically spend all their time/free time on discord. If you happen to not come from their timezone, like I do. I rarely see them say anything. All the while the lucky few that chat to them almost daily on discord, can talk about how open and great they are. Much like I rarely catch their Q&A videos live. Which they sometimes reply to live questions. So not really hard to see how a special few get everything and everyone else gets crap all.
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    Can't say I have noticed huge amounts of hostility towards CoE. Some posts / posters but by and large not a lot of discussion. Lots of other games, imo, get a more hostile grilling.

    By and large and on the whole I consider mmorpg.com to be pretty tame; unlike - say - the VN forums of old. (Although I don't think the VN forums deserved the rep they had but I would have to admit that they could be somewhat "abrasive" shall I say.)
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 37,926
    edited January 2019
    gervaise1 said:
    Can't say I have noticed huge amounts of hostility towards CoE. Some posts / posters but by and large not a lot of discussion. Lots of other games, imo, get a more hostile grilling.

    By and large and on the whole I consider mmorpg.com to be pretty tame; unlike - say - the VN forums of old. (Although I don't think the VN forums deserved the rep they had but I would have to admit that they could be somewhat "abrasive" shall I say.)
    In the COE universe questioning the "prophet" is heresy of the highest order and will earn you the moniker of "vile", hateful,  troll.

    Wear it proudly I say....
    craftseeker

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