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New Caspien tantrum about news coverage

Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 10,450
Apparently, he is taking his ball home so we can't play...



Oh no...  he's taking his "exclusive access" to PCGamer. 

Which is pretty funny because as far as I can tell they have had a whopping 1 article on CoE and it was from 2016 and ironically is about how they were using SpatialOS...
https://www.pcgamer.com/search/?searchTerm=elyria

Maybe there are others but search shows nothing.  I guess he figures it's virgin territory and they don't know his background of incompetence and failures.

Too funny.  Especially the part where he apparently doesn't realize he is talking to Tim, the author that set him off :)



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Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 2,763
    "indirectly requested not to have any exclusive access"
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,482
    Aren't community relations supposed to smooth issues like that out?  Less favorable publicity won't really do anyone any good.  
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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 2,649
    Haha was just waiting for this after the last article here on this game...lmao
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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,623
    Exclusive access to what? The only thing they have published is a cash shop for items to a game that will never exist.
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  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Member EpicPosts: 4,451
    How did they indirectly request lol?

    What is their to cover?  The next cash shop sale or silly ass naming event?

    COE has taken forum roleplay to a whole new level so I guess there is that and they have the silly titles to prove it I guess.

    Sounds like the poor fellow actually go his wittle feelings hurt.
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  • goldboyy45goldboyy45 Member UncommonPosts: 7
    I think there is a good chance CoE will put out a playable alpha at the end of this year, that is about it. The studios has no cash and has hardly anyone working on the title. If it ever comes out, it will be nothing like the vision. Great concept, zero execution. I see nothing positive about the project. Shame on Caspian for writing that and thank you to Original Poster for posting this screenshot. Get rid of Caspian and CoE may have a shot.
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  • goldboyy45goldboyy45 Member UncommonPosts: 7
    Exclusive access to what? The only thing they have published is a cash shop for items to a game that will never exist.
    Cash shop is an understatement, they have put out zero gameplay content the past year and stall with pointless community contests, every single week they come out with new in game items for 30-40$, the studios is broke and they are leading their community on.
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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,696
    "indirectly requested not to have any exclusive access"
    I'm not a native speaker and had to ponder over the meaning of this for a minute.
    Then I realized it just means...

    He is very butthurt.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member EpicPosts: 2,230
    Isolating your loyal followers from the outside world. Convince them the outside world is evil except for those few handpicked by the leader. Kool-Aid, coming to a cash shop near you for free. Very unsettling.

    Go
    Build
    Your
    Bloody
    Game

    Stop wasting everybodies time and money. We want you to succeed, but be honest and tranparent. 

    /Cheers,
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    But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
  • SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 32,161
    I'm not sure what an "indirect request" actually is. Oh well, it's Saturday so I'm not going to waste any time pondering the meaning.

    Get out in that sunshine, folks...unless you're anywhere in the polar vortex, that is... D:
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  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Member EpicPosts: 4,451
    SBFord said:
    I'm not sure what an "indirect request" actually is. Oh well, it's Saturday so I'm not going to waste any time pondering the meaning.

    Get out in that sunshine, folks...unless you're anywhere in the polar vortex, that is... D:
    Yep weather is a downer today here but hope the weather there is nice.

    I suppose the indirect is us and not fawning all over his game and you guys for letting us speak and not writing glowing reviews about his flash sales on land and title. 

    Have a good Saturday Suzie.
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  • ShaighShaigh Member RarePosts: 1,931
    It would be funny if it weren't for the fact that major publishers do the same thing. Keep writing positive stuff about  games and never give out poor reviews for publishers is how ign got exclusive access to anthem. Question things and give poor reviews is how you miss out on press events.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 10,450
    edited January 19
    SBFord said:
    I'm not sure what an "indirect request" actually is. Oh well, it's Saturday so I'm not going to waste any time pondering the meaning.

    Get out in that sunshine, folks...unless you're anywhere in the polar vortex, that is... D:
    Pretty sure it's all the "unfair" coverage they get from here and Massively.   Facts be damned.  If you want to continue to bring up the small missteps(^1) or even allow forum posters to bring up such insignificance that you have indirectly requested to be unworthy of his exclusive access.

    I mean, you actually allowed me to post this on your forums?  HERESY I SAY!  How dare anyone look at what the great Caspen said in the past!



     ^1) 2017 launch ETA, ElyriaMud, VoxElyria, Prelude, SpatialOS as the fabric the game was built on, inability to land a publisher despite saying the fans would not have to bear the burden of future funding, etc...
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  • goldboyy45goldboyy45 Member UncommonPosts: 7
    SBFord said:
    I'm not sure what an "indirect request" actually is. Oh well, it's Saturday so I'm not going to waste any time pondering the meaning.

    Get out in that sunshine, folks...unless you're anywhere in the polar vortex, that is... D:
    Pretty sure it's all the "unfair" coverage they get from here and Massively.   Facts be damned.  If you want to continue to bring up the small missteps(^1) or even allow forum posters to bring up such insignificance that you have indirectly requested to be unworthy of his exclusive access.

    I mean, you actually allowed me to post this on your forums?  HERESY I SAY!  How dare anyone look at what the great Caspen said in the past!



     ^1) 2017 launch ETA, ElyriaMud, VoxElyria, Prelude, SpatialOS as the fabric the game was built on, inability to land a publisher despite saying the fans would not have to bear the burden of future funding, etc...
    I see no success at all for Soulbound studios with Caspian at the helm. They MAY and i say MAY only...release a VERY early pre-alpha at the end of 2019. I want some one to prove me wrong, i claim that they have absolutely nothing...all they are doing is stalling with community events no one cares about.
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 18,704
    The studios has no cash 
    Uh oh, I see a wrinkle in their PC Gamer article plan. :lol:
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  • goldboyy45goldboyy45 Member UncommonPosts: 7
    Torval said:
    The studios has no cash 
    Uh oh, I see a wrinkle in their PC Gamer article plan. :lol:
    no wrinkle, they will magically extend the nobility title for sale, they will add "exclusive" new items to the cash shop, spring currency sale, you name it...cuz thats what they are working on, cash shop items to make money over building anything mmo related.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 10,450
    SBFord said:
    I'm not sure what an "indirect request" actually is. Oh well, it's Saturday so I'm not going to waste any time pondering the meaning.

    Get out in that sunshine, folks...unless you're anywhere in the polar vortex, that is... D:
    Pretty sure it's all the "unfair" coverage they get from here and Massively.   Facts be damned.  If you want to continue to bring up the small missteps(^1) or even allow forum posters to bring up such insignificance that you have indirectly requested to be unworthy of his exclusive access.

    I mean, you actually allowed me to post this on your forums?  HERESY I SAY!  How dare anyone look at what the great Caspen said in the past!



     ^1) 2017 launch ETA, ElyriaMud, VoxElyria, Prelude, SpatialOS as the fabric the game was built on, inability to land a publisher despite saying the fans would not have to bear the burden of future funding, etc...
    I see no success at all for Soulbound studios with Caspian at the helm. They MAY and i say MAY only...release a VERY early pre-alpha at the end of 2019. I want some one to prove me wrong, i claim that they have absolutely nothing...all they are doing is stalling with community events no one cares about.
    Oh I think they will allow some of their most fervent backers into their "game" soon but it will be so far from complete it will be a joke.  They will move around, swing some weapons with some placeholder animations... and demonstrate "basic game loops". All stuff that any other small studio would have produced in the first year of development.  All the hard/revolutionary stuff will amazingly not be seen.   Despite this, his Ivory Tower will cheer about the incredible progress being made and throw more money at them.   They raised $5.6M so far, from about 20,000 accounts as the last I heard.  That's an average of almost $300 per.   I'm sure there is some more blood to squeeze out of those rocks.   Time to open the "Exposition Store" and let people buy some more items, resources, houses and transportation!!!!

    Then again, I actually believed they would let people into VoxElyria last year around this time (expecting to see very basic functions dwarfed by the average minecraft server)...  So who knows.  



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    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 7,345
    I remember a time when SOE did something similar over 'angry vets' on the SWG forum here. It forced MMORPG.com to start deleting threads, then when people started leaving the site over it they tried to make them happy by creating a separate forum for disgruntled players to post their grievances. All this in an effort to keep them out of the general forum. That "Veteran Refuge' forum blew up, leaving the general forum empty for sometime. Fast forward to today, the game no longer exists.

    This isn't the same thing, but attacking game sites and their users is never a good idea.
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  • WellspringWellspring Member EpicPosts: 1,200
    edited January 19
    If it wasn't for MMORPG.com and Massively's coverage, no one would've even known about his KS to begin with. 

    Caspian has made his bed with his combined arrogance and failure to deliver on anything he says. 

    When I first read Tims article, I hoped it might encourage him to fight harder to be better. Like when sports teams are called underdogs by the media going into a big game, the good ones use that as motivation to upset everyone's expectations and win. 

    But apparently, it doesn't look like that's how Caspian is taking the criticism. :disappointed:
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  • MisterZebubMisterZebub Member EpicPosts: 3,302
    SBFord said:
    I'm not sure what an "indirect request" actually is. Oh well, it's Saturday so I'm not going to waste any time pondering the meaning.

    Get out in that sunshine, folks...unless you're anywhere in the polar vortex, that is... D:
    Oh man, this whole CoE ride has been some of the most absurd bullshit I've seen since that dickhead from Greed Monger's meltdown. I personally have nothing against CoE and wish them all the best, but just like many am very skeptical their promises can be kept or brought to fruition in a reasonable amount of time. One thing I think will not help the game idea to become reality is telling large internet communities that cover your type of game to go fuck themselves. That my friend is a seriously bad PR move. But whatever its his game and his choice to behave however he wishes. If CoE ever sees the light of day I'll give them a hearty cheer. If not I guess I'll just pour another bottle out for yet another dead "homie".


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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 10,450
    edited January 19
    SBFord said:
    I'm not sure what an "indirect request" actually is. Oh well, it's Saturday so I'm not going to waste any time pondering the meaning.

    Get out in that sunshine, folks...unless you're anywhere in the polar vortex, that is... D:
    Oh man, this whole CoE ride has been some of the most absurd bullshit I've seen since that dickhead from Greed Monger's meltdown. I personally have nothing against CoE and wish them all the best, but just like many am very skeptical their promises can be kept or brought to fruition in a reasonable amount of time. One thing I think will not help the game idea to become reality is telling large internet communities that cover your type of game to go fuck themselves. That my friend is a seriously bad PR move. But whatever its his game and his choice to behave however he wishes. If CoE ever sees the light of day I'll give them a hearty cheer. If not I guess I'll just pour another bottle out for yet another dead "homie".


    I would absolutely volunteer to interview him 1-1 and allow him to respond to the posts on here.  I’d even give him the questions in advance.  He just has to expect follow ups when he tries to deflect.  He should jump at the chance to prove his point.
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    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

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  • SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 32,161
    SBFord said:
    I'm not sure what an "indirect request" actually is. Oh well, it's Saturday so I'm not going to waste any time pondering the meaning.

    Get out in that sunshine, folks...unless you're anywhere in the polar vortex, that is... D:
    I personally have nothing against CoE and wish them all the best. One thing I think will not help the game idea to become reality is telling large internet communities that cover your type of game to go fuck themselves. 
    I totally agree with these points. What's funny is that, until I read his rather snippy commentary about our site and community, I hadn't given CoE much thought other than news coverage recently about the server names and royalty thing. Other than that, Tim's column is the first one about CoE in a very, very long time.

    Oh well, as I said, not going to worry overly much about it and hope that those who are behind this management style and the game itself get what they're hoping for in time.
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  • ArteriusArterius Member RarePosts: 611
    I find this OP and all subsequent posts very funny indeed. This game is doomed to fail if it releases and odds are it will never see the light of day anyway.
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  • TimEisenTimEisen ColumnistMember EpicPosts: 3,285
    Apparently, he is taking his ball home so we can't play...



    Oh no...  he's taking his "exclusive access" to PCGamer. 

    Which is pretty funny because as far as I can tell they have had a whopping 1 article on CoE and it was from 2016 and ironically is about how they were using SpatialOS...
    https://www.pcgamer.com/search/?searchTerm=elyria

    Maybe there are others but search shows nothing.  I guess he figures it's virgin territory and they don't know his background of incompetence and failures.

    Too funny.  Especially the part where he apparently doesn't realize he is talking to Tim, the author that set him off :)



    Like I keep saying, I want it to limp to a launch and even offered suggestions in that column. As for Tierless, while I dont expect him to remember me (I certainly try to forget me every day) I have made it clear to him I was Tierless both in discord and on the forums when I used to post links to columns before I felt it was no longer an environment where constructivism was invited.

    Per the coverage, everything he has said about it and us is simply not true. No one employed here has any reason to want them to fail. As many clicks as COE drama gets it would be best for business to allow it to fail and cover that. Instead I wrote an honest piece with constructive tips for how I feel they could turn things around.

    My piece, and the way it was done, likely got us less clicks than if I just went vaporware scorched Earth and tried to trigger their fans. Hate clicks are easy, that wasnt what I wanted. A constructive discussion and an honest look were my goals. 
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  • NorseGodNorseGod Member RarePosts: 1,739
    I recently had this discussion with @Erillion

    This thread exposes an ongoing problem with gaming journalism.

    In order to have access to studios, gaming journalist (Disclaimer: Not all of them) have to give glowing reviews or be sanctioned by the studio. And that's if  studios don't out-right pay for good reviews with their marketing budgets.

    It should be the other way around. If a studio wants glowing reviews, then make a good game.

    Studio Access = New Site Content = Site Traffic = Advertisements = $$$ = Motive

    That's why gaming journalist reviews are not proof that a game is good. Is it good? Or did they say good things because the have to?
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