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Elder Scrolls Online Racials will be Retooled for Update 21 - MMORPG.com

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,098
    gervaise1 said:
    ESO is uber alt friendly. Any player who is that "worried" about racial bonuses will roll a new character of the race they want and level to "50".

    For anyone who doesn't play such characters will have the same CP rating as the players main. For a "serious end game player" this could be many hundreds of CP points. Think: speed + steroids + other performance enhancing stuff. find an anchor in a mob heavy zone and they could be 50 very quickly indeed.

    That's only true up to a point since there are several things that take quite a while to grind: mage's guild ultimate, undaunted mettle and, depending on how you feel about PvP, Warhorn, Vigor and Caltrops can also be a pain.

    It's not as easy as "make an alt of the new best race for your build and you're good to go." 
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  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 7,334
    Aelious said:




    Aelious said:


    Doesn't seem like a good move to fleece your core customers for more money.






    Are you suggesting that they are charging for racial bonuses? Because this thread is about changes to racial bonuses not anything to do with the store.



    God dam we need a shit post button.



    The reason and validity of what I posted has already been covered by others but I wanted to add I'm also starting to play ESO again. I'm also low level so these changes don't effect me in the slightest like they would veteran players but I'm sympathetic to their concerns.

    Plus, you missed an "n" in there ;)

    Aelious


  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 18,695
    They should just offer open race change for 2 weeks and be done with it. If you really give a damn you'll log in just like you will to save a name.

    That sort of thing divides the people who care and the people who like to talk like they care. The first group will do it right away. The second group will be bitching about how the window should have been longer after it's all over. :lol:
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 4,611
    Torval said:
    They should just offer open race change for 2 weeks and be done with it. If you really give a damn you'll log in just like you will to save a name.

    That sort of thing divides the people who care and the people who like to talk like they care. The first group will do it right away. The second group will be bitching about how the window should have been longer after it's all over. :lol:
    Nah, that's not a solution. There's lots of people that might have stopped playing for a while, won't even know this is happening and will log in a year later to find their characters have been butchered.

    Every character should get a free race change sent in the mail the first time they log in after the update, permanently. Other games do it with massive changes like this, ESO is no exception. It's the only fair solution and it's in the best interest of Zenimax to do it for current, and future, player retention.
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,471
    I like both.  Two free weeks to try out different race builds and get a token for every character you have in case you missed the two weeks. 

    It's a slippery slope to plan core changes to a game and only give a free change on one character.  If this happens it opens the door to only create changes to increase cashshop sales. 

    So they change something and if you don't like it, just buy a potion to let you change it.  Eventually no free respecs for anything, just buy a potion in the cash shop. 

    Eliminate the vamp and WW quests altogether, just buy the potions and you can start off as a supernatural with your level one character if you have the cash.

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  • LimnicLimnic Member RarePosts: 496
    Torval said:
    They should just offer open race change for 2 weeks and be done with it. If you really give a damn you'll log in just like you will to save a name.

    That sort of thing divides the people who care and the people who like to talk like they care. The first group will do it right away. The second group will be bitching about how the window should have been longer after it's all over. :lol:
    Nah, that's not a solution. There's lots of people that might have stopped playing for a while, won't even know this is happening and will log in a year later to find their characters have been butchered.

    Every character should get a free race change sent in the mail the first time they log in after the update, permanently. Other games do it with massive changes like this, ESO is no exception. It's the only fair solution and it's in the best interest of Zenimax to do it for current, and future, player retention.
    If you don't play a live game for a year that's already a gamble you're going to take in regards to class meta, skills, and possibly gear.
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  • NorseGodNorseGod Member RarePosts: 1,739
    Limnic said:
    Torval said:

    If you don't play a live game for a year that's already a gamble you're going to take in regards to class meta, skills, and possibly gear.
    Yep. I usually play a month or so every year. Have to spend most my time getting the "correct" gear. Then when I get it, I'm burnt out and leave again. lol
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 4,611

    Limnic said:




    Torval said:

    They should just offer open race change for 2 weeks and be done with it. If you really give a damn you'll log in just like you will to save a name.

    That sort of thing divides the people who care and the people who like to talk like they care. The first group will do it right away. The second group will be bitching about how the window should have been longer after it's all over. :lol:


    Nah, that's not a solution. There's lots of people that might have stopped playing for a while, won't even know this is happening and will log in a year later to find their characters have been butchered.

    Every character should get a free race change sent in the mail the first time they log in after the update, permanently. Other games do it with massive changes like this, ESO is no exception. It's the only fair solution and it's in the best interest of Zenimax to do it for current, and future, player retention.


    If you don't play a live game for a year that's already a gamble you're going to take in regards to class meta, skills, and possibly gear.



    This isn't the same. You can change your skill builds and your gear. You can't change your race in ESO without paying. Any game that needs a cash shop item to retrain almost always provides a permanent free respec to everyone when major changes are made. Hell, most give a free respec if you only need in game currency to respec.
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  • perrin82perrin82 Member UncommonPosts: 215
    Sadly this is a move to generate more funds. Being involved in many meetings where the board demands we get creative in bringing in more revenue without adding to the costs results in these "creative" ideas. The sad thing is it will work because many people who have alts do not want to have to grind skill lines again.

    It'll be interested to see what happens. I know my Dark Elf night blade is about to switch.
  • LimnicLimnic Member RarePosts: 496

    Limnic said:




    Torval said:

    They should just offer open race change for 2 weeks and be done with it. If you really give a damn you'll log in just like you will to save a name.

    That sort of thing divides the people who care and the people who like to talk like they care. The first group will do it right away. The second group will be bitching about how the window should have been longer after it's all over. :lol:


    Nah, that's not a solution. There's lots of people that might have stopped playing for a while, won't even know this is happening and will log in a year later to find their characters have been butchered.

    Every character should get a free race change sent in the mail the first time they log in after the update, permanently. Other games do it with massive changes like this, ESO is no exception. It's the only fair solution and it's in the best interest of Zenimax to do it for current, and future, player retention.


    If you don't play a live game for a year that's already a gamble you're going to take in regards to class meta, skills, and possibly gear.



    This isn't the same. You can change your skill builds and your gear. You can't change your race in ESO without paying. Any game that needs a cash shop item to retrain almost always provides a permanent free respec to everyone when major changes are made. Hell, most give a free respec if you only need in game currency to respec.
    Cannot I can say I find the experience that "most" do such. Can already think of a few offhand I personally played that only gave discrete respec options that were either timed, or only applied to the first character you played/used it with.
  • d_20d_20 Member RarePosts: 1,878
    Been wanting to do a Khajiit magblade. Nord can be a pretty good DK now, maybe run it with Werewolf Hide and keep that ulti up all the time. 


  • PalebanePalebane Member UncommonPosts: 3,483
    edited January 18
    kryntok said:

    Palebane said:


    kryntok said:

    Im finally realizing reading these comments on this website is so pointless. Bunch of crybabies you all are. My 2 credits


    Right? We should all just bend over for whatever shit they shovel. You a CEO?



    No you shouldn't, but have you realized how many games are on the market?? Complaining about percentage nerfs and stat tweaks is so lame, just so lame
    I agree. I’ll play a Dark Elf regardless of their racial bonuses. I’d play them even if they were the only race that gave racial deficiencies. I simply do not care abou min/max or endgame. But I am a crybaby about things I dont like developers doing to a game I enjoy. You should too.

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  • ReverielleReverielle Member UncommonPosts: 105
    edited February 1
    Looking through the changes; they are good. Absolute values are much better than the percentages before. It's a move towards more balance, but nowhere does it seem ruin a class/race combination. Simply because there was no bad class/race combination to begin with (speaking as a redguard/magicka templar since launch)
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,620
    kryntok said:
    Im finally realizing reading these comments on this website is so pointless. Bunch of crybabies you all are. My 2 credits
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