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Skyrim Together

AsheramAsheram Member RarePosts: 3,524
edited January 11 in General Gaming
Skyrim co-op mod getting close to beta. https://www.reddit.com/r/SkyrimTogether/comments/aeur8e/closed_beta_announcement/



https://www.ibtimes.com/bethesda-blocks-skyrim-together-mods-steam-release-2613657

Bethsesda shut them down in November saying its ok to develop the mod but they couldnt publish it on Steam.

"The news that Bethesda blocked the Steam release of “Skyrim Together” emerged on the Skyrim subredditthis weekend. One thread shared what the developers announced online, saying: “Some news guys, we have been in discussions with Bethesda and while they are fine with us releasing the mod they weren’t with us publishing the mod on Steam and we relied heavily on the Steam APIs for party and lobby systems.”

"Though the announcement was definitely a bummer to excited fans, the makers of the mod assured everyone that the game would still be released. However, the fact that they relied heavily on Steam APIs would mean that the release would be pushed back. “It will push back the dev a bit while we figure out a way to make our own party and lobby systems. It might sound like a trivial task but we expect thousands of concurrent players meaning we need something that scales well and that’s a complicated story.” "
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  • boris20boris20 Member UncommonPosts: 237
    that sucks. 
  • XAleX360XAleX360 Member UncommonPosts: 490
    boris20 said:
    that sucks. 
    Well, it's still coming.

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  • vonryan123vonryan123 Member UncommonPosts: 258
    edited January 25
    Holy $h1t something to look forward to for the 1st time in what 5-8 years. Me and my son will love this!

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  • GaladournGaladourn Member RarePosts: 1,659
    do we know how many concurrent players it will be able to support?

  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 18,602
    Bethesda blocked the mod on Steam? What a bunch of assholes.
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  • AsheramAsheram Member RarePosts: 3,524
    Galadourn said:
    do we know how many concurrent players it will be able to support?
    They are starting out with 8 players per session.
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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,346
    Or .. just play ESO
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  • GaladournGaladourn Member RarePosts: 1,659
    Scorchien said:
    Or .. just play ESO
    night and day; if ESO were even remotely close to Skyrim's feel, it would have been the next big thing in MMOs...
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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 6,346
    Galadourn said:
    Scorchien said:
    Or .. just play ESO
    night and day; if ESO were even remotely close to Skyrim's feel, it would have been the next big thing in MMOs...
    I agree, and Skyrim is the better RPG , but it is a viable option .....  that is actually availible
    Galadourn
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member EpicPosts: 5,733
    Torval said:
    Bethesda blocked the mod on Steam? What a bunch of assholes.
    Because this is ruining their next project: Skyrim 76....I mean TES 6
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 25,918
    Scorchien said:
    Or .. just play ESO
    Nah, not even close.

    I just downloaded Elder Scrolls Online again and though I'm trying to play it differently, it still doesn't hold a candle to the single player games.

    Believe me, if Elder Scrolls Online was like the single player games I would never need another MMORPG again.


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  • GutlardGutlard Member RarePosts: 446
    You should def shoot down the talented fans who's love of your game has kept it in the mainstream for way longer than it had any right to be.... GG

    Gut Out!
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 25,918
    Gutlard said:
    You should def shoot down the talented fans who's love of your game has kept it in the mainstream for way longer than it had any right to be.... GG

    Gut Out!
    I think it's more "about" not allowing for competition. Especially using their own work to create that competition.

    Let's say, for argument's sake, that a team was able to take Skyrim and flesh it out and actually create an mmorpg. That would work against Zenimax's own mmorpg. Not that they play the same but there are people who would much rather play "mmorpg skyrim" over Elder Scrolls Online.

    There very well could be other reasons to not allow certain assets to be used.



  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 18,602
    Sovrath said:
    Gutlard said:
    You should def shoot down the talented fans who's love of your game has kept it in the mainstream for way longer than it had any right to be.... GG

    Gut Out!
    I think it's more "about" not allowing for competition. Especially using their own work to create that competition.

    Let's say, for argument's sake, that a team was able to take Skyrim and flesh it out and actually create an mmorpg. That would work against Zenimax's own mmorpg. Not that they play the same but there are people who would much rather play "mmorpg skyrim" over Elder Scrolls Online.

    There very well could be other reasons to not allow certain assets to be used.
    They're not monetizing it and if they did, they'd have to cut both Valve and Bethesda in. Also, they're not shutting down the mod. They're only preventing it on Steam. Final step in this eventual process, mods through the Bethesda launcher only and only what they approve.

    Plus stifling competition like that for your own product protection never goes well in the end. We've seen that time and again.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 25,918
    edited January 25
    Torval said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gutlard said:
    You should def shoot down the talented fans who's love of your game has kept it in the mainstream for way longer than it had any right to be.... GG

    Gut Out!
    I think it's more "about" not allowing for competition. Especially using their own work to create that competition.

    Let's say, for argument's sake, that a team was able to take Skyrim and flesh it out and actually create an mmorpg. That would work against Zenimax's own mmorpg. Not that they play the same but there are people who would much rather play "mmorpg skyrim" over Elder Scrolls Online.

    There very well could be other reasons to not allow certain assets to be used.
    They're not monetizing it and if they did, they'd have to cut both Valve and Bethesda in. Also, they're not shutting down the mod. They're only preventing it on Steam. Final step in this eventual process, mods through the Bethesda launcher only and only what they approve.

    Plus stifling competition like that for your own product protection never goes well in the end. We've seen that time and again.
    it's true they are not monetizing it. It then could very well have something to do with their agreements with Valve.

    I should add that I think them not shutting it down but saying that the modders can't access these libraries (or whatever) is sort of a way of putting a wrench into the works. Maybe they think it will slow them down enough until such time it doesn't matter to them.

    Also, I don't think stifling competition from their own product is a bad thing. How could it be? Other than pissing off a few people working on the project.

    Honest question there.


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  • AsheramAsheram Member RarePosts: 3,524
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member RarePosts: 2,560
    edited January 27
    Closed beta has started and you can get in for a 1$ donation on patreon.  Open beta to come a a few weeks or so mid feb I think.

    Btw Bethesda didn't them want the using the steam api but I can't help but wonder if that's to do with steam themselves.   Apparently they have no problems with this mod.

    Ideally you want to use Skyrim SE, donate 1$ to their patreon for closed beta access and need to make an account on ST's own site. You can find out the step on their reddit page.

    Right now there's one server in EU somewhere so might not be that great for NA players but keep in mind this is a good ole fashion beta, not this early start BS we see nowadays so there will be bugs, some stuff is turned off and they are collecting data including location data for localizing their NA servers etc.

    I expect bethasda will sell a few more Skyrim SE due to these guys.

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  • XAleX360XAleX360 Member UncommonPosts: 490
    Asm0deus said:
    Closed beta has started and you can get in for a 1$ donation on patreon.  Open beta to come a a few weeks or so mid feb I think.

    Btw Bethesda didn't them want the using the steam api but I can't help but wonder if that's to do with steam themselves.   Apparently they have no problems with this mod.

    Ideally you want to use Skyrim SE, donate 1$ to their patreon for closed beta access and need to make an account on ST's own site. You can find out the step on their reddit page.

    Right now there's one server in EU somewhere so might not be that great for NA players but keep in mind this is a good ole fashion beta, not this early start BS we see nowadays so there will be bugs, some stuff is turned off and they are collecting data including location data for localizing their NA servers etc.

    I expect bethasda will sell a few more Skyrim SE due to these guys.





    Sadly it seems they have issues with desync still.

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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,093
    I'm scared... If I reinstall it and fully mod it to 4k (plus survival/immersion) and add the working multiplayer... I might never get out of Skyrim ever again.

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  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 4,915
    So how would this work with quests and story? Are those still handled per player? Or is it something that would be auto accepted by everyone in the session. What about saved games?

    I'm super interested in this project, I didn't even know about it.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 25,918
    edited January 30
    It's per person.

    I have no idea how saved games work.

    edit: I'm guessing from a comment I saw in an old FAQ that you can load up a save game and then "connect." Once you are ready to save again you disconnect and THEN save.

    The comment itself basically stated that you should load a save game while connected so that is why I came to this conclusion.
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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,093
    Sovrath said:
    It's per person.

    I have no idea how saved games work.

    edit: I'm guessing from a comment I saw in an old FAQ that you can load up a save game and then "connect." Once you are ready to save again you disconnect and THEN save.

    The comment itself basically stated that you should load a save game while connected so that is why I came to this conclusion.
    I think it works like the old games of yore: The "server" holds the campaign status and you can export your character (save) to sync certain elements.
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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member RarePosts: 2,560
    edited February 1
    Pretty simple so far, you start the game using "Harbor" which is essentially a launcher and it starts Skyrim right to the main page where you can continue, load saved games etc.

    Once loaded in game you can hit the right ctrl button to open the harbor ui which shows you friends that are online and you can invite them to join once everyone has accepted your invite, you the host, have to click launch party and everyone should sync up.

    Didn't have much time to fiddle around today as my boy was getting home from school and this is a surprise for his Bday coming up next week.

    Used this to get stuff working.


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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 6,074
    So, I love Skyrim, but I'm also enjoying ESO. I'd really like to hear from at least one of you folks claiming this is better than ESO. I believe the comment was, ESO and Skyrim are like night and day. I really don't see the difference. What will Skyrim together offer that ESO doesn't already have? Not to mention, they don't even have a working quest / loot sharing system. So expect another few years before that part is working.
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  • bartfartkartbartfartkart Member UncommonPosts: 14
    Looking for coop must have mod OSex installed. 
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