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Ashes of Creation: Apocalypse Open Beta Event Begins on January 11th - MMORPG.com

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  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,882
    edited January 11
    Arterius said:
    man I wish I could think like you but I have been burned to many times to even try
    I joined this forum in March 2004, and was active for years, up until about 2 years ago (or there abouts). I have been burned a hundred times by bad games through the years, but... If i was so burned out as to not trust any dev in the genre out of hand ever again, even before they had done anything wrong, I would just walk away.

    Maybe it was the 2 years away that gave me distance and a fresh perspective. What i do refuse to do though is to be dragged back into that pit of negativity others are in (Not talking about you dude).

    I'm just here to chill and look forward to these new exciting games :)
    Post edited by Vesavius on
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 10,003
    Vesavius said:
    Extra revenue for a different source is not necessarily good for the original game AT ALL. For reference see Fortnite: Save the World

    Is there some rule that says monies raised from the BattleRoyale must be funneled into the development of the MMO?  Is there something preventing those monies from going directly to Stephen's pocket?  If so please link that info as I'd like to see it.

    Information gained from this spin-off game may or may not be beneficial to the MMO.


    Dude, it isn't good for you to live in this negative cynical headspace all the time. Yes, what you say here *could* be true, any revenue can be diverted and misused on pretty much any project, but have we seen any prior behaviour to suggest that's the case here?

    Please feel free to link me any information that suggests so. I'd like to see it.

    Look, the truth is I trust until people do something bad to break that trust. I don't judge them by the actions of others they are not attached to (Fortnite etc) and I take them at their word until they break that word. I don't believe everyone is a scammer out of the gate, just because someone else acted badly. This approach has served me very well up to this point.

    As of this point, I see zero reasons to not trust AoC, and I see a lot of value for AoC in the implementation of AoC.

    Take that or leave it. I am done debating it with you. You, in turn, are free to just not play the free game and go on with your life as if it didn't exist.
    So when they said they had all the money they needed, but now you say they need more...  that is not breaking any trust?

    Interesting lengths you go to in order to reach that conclusion...

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  • WizardryWizardry Member EpicPosts: 15,223
    I will be astounded if any true mmorpg player comes away thinking this game has any chance of being a good mmorpg.
    They might be able to pull off something else other than a rpg,what that might be idk,i think they have already tried to cover their tracks with the BR idea.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • bcbullybcbully Member RarePosts: 9,384
    So here you have a small independent dev who has actully produced a good looking playable version of their game (faster than any I can recall), and we got the need bergaid bashing them because they don’t have any fetch quests todo or scripted npcs to fight.

    Riannesalkarionlogparrotpholk
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 10,003
    bcbully said:
    So here you have a small independent dev who has actully produced a good looking playable version of their game (faster than any I can recall), and we got the need bergaid bashing them because they don’t have any fetch quests todo or scripted npcs to fight.

    Huh?  There is a playable version of the MMO?  That would be real news! 
    Unfortunately no... there is a playable(?) BattleRoyale with a working cash shop.
    Two very different things.
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    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • DhaenonDhaenon Member UncommonPosts: 150
    While I don't like BR games, I can be convinced that it was a good idea. People like them, they can be used for testing and all that whatever, even selling access to it.

    However, the moment a cash shop was introduced, come on guys. That can't be defended.
    Kyleran
  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 7,212
    Why do I get the feeling this is being rushed out the door and isn't truly ready for primetime?
    Riannes


  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 10,003
    Tiller said:
    Why do I get the feeling this is being rushed out the door and isn't truly ready for primetime?
    Other than the fact that it “launched” weeks ago and they had to bring it down until now? Or that chunks of their website and forums are still down?

    Dunno...
    KyleranGdemami

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    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • WarlyxWarlyx Member RarePosts: 2,698
    edited January 11
    lost all the hope on Ashes as soon as they published this BR + cash shop crap
    Post edited by Warlyx on
    Riannes
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member EpicPosts: 5,487
    Well, BR did save Boss Key Produc....oh wait, nevermind....
  • bcbullybcbully Member RarePosts: 9,384



    bcbully said:

    So here you have a small independent dev who has actully produced a good looking playable version of their game (faster than any I can recall), and we got the need bergaid bashing them because they don’t have any fetch quests todo or scripted npcs to fight.





    Huh?  There is a playable version of the MMO?  That would be real news! 
    Unfortunately no... there is a playable(?) BattleRoyale with a working cash shop.
    Two very different things.



    Yes a playable version. I’m gonna let you in on something, keep it quite, ok? BRs are fricken. They have a high fantasy BR that looks damn good. Like I said sorry they haven’t added the fetch quest for you and the 20 other haters on this site, but I’m sure the rest of the gaming community will be just fine.
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  • RiannesRiannes Member UncommonPosts: 98
    Not going to buy this one. Very shady.
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 6,479
    So they were working on a MMO then Fortnite goes nuts and they whip out a BR in like 10 seconds to make some quick cash?
    Arterius
  • ArteriusArterius Member UncommonPosts: 128
    bcbully said:



    bcbully said:

    So here you have a small independent dev who has actully produced a good looking playable version of their game (faster than any I can recall), and we got the need bergaid bashing them because they don’t have any fetch quests todo or scripted npcs to fight.





    Huh?  There is a playable version of the MMO?  That would be real news! 
    Unfortunately no... there is a playable(?) BattleRoyale with a working cash shop.
    Two very different things.



    Yes a playable version. I’m gonna let you in on something, keep it quite, ok? BRs are fricken. They have a high fantasy BR that looks damn good. Like I said sorry they haven’t added the fetch quest for you and the 20 other haters on this site, but I’m sure the rest of the gaming community will be just fine.
    Sure but they promised a MMO not a BR. So us being upset is well deserved. It someone offered you a top of the line hamburger but bought you McDonalds you would be pretty upset I would like to think
    Gdemami
  • ArteriusArterius Member UncommonPosts: 128
    So they were working on a MMO then Fortnite goes nuts and they whip out a BR in like 10 seconds to make some quick cash?
    Yes. Yes they did.
  • Haki88Haki88 Member UncommonPosts: 16
    edited January 11
    At beggining i was excited, pledged, heard about BR and got dissapointed, also i dont like store, i mean game is not even out and they are selling things from 75$ to 250$, like am looking new star citizen -.-  Dont get me wrong but i understand kickstarter, because kickstarter is one thing and after kickstarter is done thats it, you cant sell again things.

    I will play this game but just to see how is it, i lost all hope that this game is going to be something amazing, but maybe am wrong..

    Ps: They still didnt merged all my data from previous website :(
    Post edited by Haki88 on
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 31,496
    Arterius said:
    bcbully said:



    bcbully said:

    So here you have a small independent dev who has actully produced a good looking playable version of their game (faster than any I can recall), and we got the need bergaid bashing them because they don’t have any fetch quests todo or scripted npcs to fight.





    Huh?  There is a playable version of the MMO?  That would be real news! 
    Unfortunately no... there is a playable(?) BattleRoyale with a working cash shop.
    Two very different things.



    Yes a playable version. I’m gonna let you in on something, keep it quite, ok? BRs are fricken. They have a high fantasy BR that looks damn good. Like I said sorry they haven’t added the fetch quest for you and the 20 other haters on this site, but I’m sure the rest of the gaming community will be just fine.
    Sure but they promised a MMO not a BR. So us being upset is well deserved. It someone offered you a top of the line hamburger but bought you McDonalds you would be pretty upset I would like to think
    Also their MMO wasn't supposed to be full of fetch quests, not sure why he keeps building up this strawman that no one is asking for.

    Where is the awesome node system they touted during the KSer, now that is something worth seeing, probably the one really unique feature they promised, and yet so far we've seen no evidence of its development. 

    Instead we get a formulaic BR in an era of far too many.....


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  • goemoegoemoe Member UncommonPosts: 215
    I had installed it for this one. It is a test for some pvp fighting and has a omnipresent cash shop. Want to look special in Alpha testing without fun? Very disappointing.

    I had some hopes for this one and understand, they do it to earn money, but cash for nothing during alpha leaves a bad taste. No, thank you.
  • hyllyhhyllyh Member UncommonPosts: 177
    what? an open beta free? no need to pay for apha pre release test? cant believe it
    ok, i'll check it! :)
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 31,496
    hyllyh said:
    what? an open beta free? no need to pay for apha pre release test? cant believe it
    ok, i'll check it! :)
    It will be "F2P" at launch too.

    In other news "F2P" Fortnite made over $3B in 2018.



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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing FO76 ATM.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 10,003
    bcbully said:



    bcbully said:

    So here you have a small independent dev who has actully produced a good looking playable version of their game (faster than any I can recall), and we got the need bergaid bashing them because they don’t have any fetch quests todo or scripted npcs to fight.





    Huh?  There is a playable version of the MMO?  That would be real news! 
    Unfortunately no... there is a playable(?) BattleRoyale with a working cash shop.
    Two very different things.



    Yes a playable version. I’m gonna let you in on something, keep it quite, ok? BRs are fricken. They have a high fantasy BR that looks damn good. Like I said sorry they haven’t added the fetch quest for you and the 20 other haters on this site, but I’m sure the rest of the gaming community will be just fine.
    What are you rattling on about?  Fetch quests?  I didn’t know that was a big feature in their promised MMORPG.

    And yes they produced a playable(except for having to bring it down for the last few weeks) version of a BattleRoyale not a playable version of their MMO.  If your agrugemnt is that you prefer BR games to MMORPGs well.. OK.  Different Strokes for different folks, but 18 months to produce an Alpha BR isn’t exactly record setting either.
    Gdemami

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    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • KnyttaKnytta Member UncommonPosts: 399
    edited January 11
    They totally have stopped talking about the things that made people exited over Ashes, that is the thing that worries me. What happened to the political system tied to the node system, that was also a really interesting feature. We might get a node control game.
    Post edited by Knytta on
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  • BlueThunderBearBlueThunderBear Member UncommonPosts: 32
    Anyone getting Everquest Next vibes?
    Kyleran
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 31,496
    Anyone getting Everquest Next vibes?
    Hmm, interesting parallels between projects, good observation there.
    Gdemami

    "I should run a marathon backwards. So I could see what second place look like" Royce da 5'9"

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing FO76 ATM.

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

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  • hyllyhhyllyh Member UncommonPosts: 177
    ok, logged in, tried it then uninstalled it
    horrible BR thing
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