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Why I'm Excited, But Still a Bit Apprehensive About Anthem - MMORPG.com

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edited January 10 in News & Features Discussion

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I’ve been interested in Anthem ever since the game’s announcement at E3 2017. But even with my excitement growing each day as we get closer to the game’s launch, I’m still left with a few questions that leave me a bit apprehensive.

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  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,728
    The more I see, the more I realize that game developers aren't doing things that I find interesting or worth my time. Maybe that's me being older. Maybe that's them and their disconnect. Of course, the Fortnite game proves that millions like trivial stuff that doesn't remotely interest me anymore.
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  • ShadowStyleBShadowStyleB Member UncommonPosts: 295
    The loot seems to be designed more like Diablo III or how the Division is. It will be interesting to see how the drops are and how doing the content helps in getting the drops needed.

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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 3,639
    edited January 10
    I like what I see with Anthem. Incredible visual customization, solid but simple build diversity, third person camera, high mobility, and great graphics.

    Where I'm concerned is what I am not yet seeing. While story isn't hugely important for a game like this, it needs to be sufficient enough to anchor one into a game and make them care about what they are doing. This was very much not the case with Destiny's "I don't even have time to explain why I don't have time to explain" storytelling, and I worry it could be similar here. Also, while Destiny's beta was an incredibly fun and polished experience, I would have never guessed that such a paltry sum of content would represent a considerable percentage (say 20-25%) of what the base game had to offer. I worry that Anthem could launch similarly content light, even if its beta/demo gives off an incredible first impression, as Destiny's did.

    Were it not for Destiny, I would be openly excited for Anthem. Perhaps that isn't fair, to use one series by a different developer and publisher as a cautionary metric for another, but that's the way of things.
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  • AlverantAlverant Member RarePosts: 1,047
    I'm curious about Anthem. Partially because I got a new rig last month and want to play one of the new games. But given how AAA publishers have acted lately (releasing broken games, adding microtransactions after the initial reviews and the majority of sales have been made, etc) even if it's great I'm going to wait and see how it is a month or two after release. Sorry publishers, it's your own fault.
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member EpicPosts: 8,409
    I said this in another post and will repeat it here. Strange that a company known for good story telling isn't focusing on the story in these demos. All I see is flying and fighting missions. One streamer did talk a little about lore and the storyline but he wasn't excited about it.

    A lot of streamers mentioned they were still working on balance issues. Someone else stated the wildlife seemed disconnected. They were there but it felt like they were just filling up space and unlike other games weren't really doing anything. Someone else noticed that at the time he played you couldn't see what your drops were until you returned to your base. So he couldn't switch to a better weapon or change his load-out at all until he returned to check his inventory.

    Hopefully most of this stuff will be worked out before launch.
    infomatz

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  • IlayaIlaya Member UncommonPosts: 558
    Nice Article tho!

    But it says inside; "but in Anthem, you’ll have to just recraft (if possible) or keep hunting manually for the perfect version of whatever it is you’re looking for."

    And tbh, isn't that the Grind we all look for? What hooks us and make us stay in the Game? As in every other Game as well? I like that, it gives me the Grind/the replayability i "need/i look for". To get that one good roll which i want/i need. If Anthem does that right, i'm good.

    So....i hope that the Demo will show us what is going on in Anthem. Looking forward to it.
    Torval
  • ShadowStyleBShadowStyleB Member UncommonPosts: 295


    I said this in another post and will repeat it here. Strange that a company known for good story telling isn't focusing on the story in these demos. All I see is flying and fighting missions. One streamer did talk a little about lore and the storyline but he wasn't excited about it.



    A lot of streamers mentioned they were still working on balance issues. Someone else stated the wildlife seemed disconnected. They were there but it felt like they were just filling up space and unlike other games weren't really doing anything. Someone else noticed that at the time he played you couldn't see what your drops were until you returned to your base. So he couldn't switch to a better weapon or change his load-out at all until he returned to check his inventory.



    Hopefully most of this stuff will be worked out before launch.



    I mean if you're about the story then it makes sense that you can't change equipment till back at the fort. I mean who is going to put it on your equipment out in the field? The story mainly takes place back at the fort where the team that works with getting your equipment ready and where you get missions are at.

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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member EpicPosts: 8,409


    I said this in another post and will repeat it here. Strange that a company known for good story telling isn't focusing on the story in these demos. All I see is flying and fighting missions. One streamer did talk a little about lore and the storyline but he wasn't excited about it.



    A lot of streamers mentioned they were still working on balance issues. Someone else stated the wildlife seemed disconnected. They were there but it felt like they were just filling up space and unlike other games weren't really doing anything. Someone else noticed that at the time he played you couldn't see what your drops were until you returned to your base. So he couldn't switch to a better weapon or change his load-out at all until he returned to check his inventory.



    Hopefully most of this stuff will be worked out before launch.



    I mean if you're about the story then it makes sense that you can't change equipment till back at the fort. I mean who is going to put it on your equipment out in the field? The story mainly takes place back at the fort where the team that works with getting your equipment ready and where you get missions are at.
    I don't see how that would make sense unless they actually determine what you have when you open your inventory in town and what you pickup in the filed is just a place holder till then.  This would give them more control over your leveling speed as a lot will be determined by gear quality.  What other game does that?

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • AlexanderVendiAlexanderVendi Member UncommonPosts: 269
    You can't burnout if you are a gamer .. because NO gamer plays only one game.
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  • timeraidertimeraider Member UncommonPosts: 766
    Its EA. Its not a question if they ruin the game.. the question is when exactly they will ruin the game.
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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,562
    I am a bit apprehensive but I am also certain I will at a minimum get my money's worth out of the game. Given their stance on things like content patches and making them free I doubt we will see a lot of content come out after the fact. If they do end up giving away little bits of content here and there for free vs going with a big DLC or Expansion model then that's fine by me, and I will get more than sufficient playtime/enjoyment out of it as I don't expect something for nothing.
  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,939

    Aeander said:

    I like what I see with Anthem. Incredible visual customization, solid but simple build diversity, third person camera, high mobility, and great graphics.

    Where I'm concerned is what I am not yet seeing. While story isn't hugely important for a game like this, it needs to be sufficient enough to anchor one into a game and make them care about what they are doing. This was very much not the case with Destiny's "I don't even have time to explain why I don't have time to explain" storytelling, and I worry it could be similar here. Also, while Destiny's beta was an incredibly fun and polished experience, I would have never guessed that such a paltry sum of content would represent a considerable percentage (say 20-25%) of what the base game had to offer. I worry that Anthem could launch similarly content light, even if its beta/demo gives off an incredible first impression, as Destiny's did.

    Were it not for Destiny, I would be openly excited for Anthem. Perhaps that isn't fair, to use one series by a different developer and publisher as a cautionary metric for another, but that's the way of things.



    If there is anyone I trust to do story telling right, it's still Bioware.

    As long as the gameplay is solid, which I really hope it is, and the loot chase is engaging and not punishing and stupid like Destiny, may be a game a spend a significant # of hours in.

    Looking forward to the demo at the end of the month!
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  • MechanismMechanism Member UncommonPosts: 125
    I'm curious if EA might be hoping to regain some goodwill with this game and hold back on monetization and dev reallocation in order to release a product that people feel good about for more than a month. Or is this game just business as usual?
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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,595
    edited January 10
    You know it's going to be bad if the team who gave FO76 a "7" is "apprehensive"
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  • XiaokiXiaoki Member RarePosts: 3,160


    I said this in another post and will repeat it here. Strange that a company known for good story telling isn't focusing on the story in these demos. All I see is flying and fighting missions. One streamer did talk a little about lore and the storyline but he wasn't excited about it.




    Im only guessing here but do you think its possible that the developer known for story wants you to actually play the story and not watch Youtube clips of it a month in advance from a beta demo?
    gervaise1lecram64
  • momintimmomintim Member UncommonPosts: 48
    I will wait 6 months to see how EA slips in the sneaky MTX and make a decision but for the most part anything with an EA label won't be receiving my money.
  • boris20boris20 Member UncommonPosts: 238
    Im okay with random loot tables, if bosses ect have higher unique loot drop chance. 
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 7,886
    edited January 10
    I said this in another post and will repeat it here. Strange that a company known for good story telling isn't focusing on the story in these demos. All I see is flying and fighting missions. One streamer did talk a little about lore and the storyline but he wasn't excited about it.

    A lot of streamers mentioned they were still working on balance issues. Someone else stated the wildlife seemed disconnected. They were there but it felt like they were just filling up space and unlike other games weren't really doing anything. Someone else noticed that at the time he played you couldn't see what your drops were until you returned to your base. So he couldn't switch to a better weapon or change his load-out at all until he returned to check his inventory.

    Hopefully most of this stuff will be worked out before launch.
    Oh god.


    In before it releases with frozen wildlife and no way to check your inventory on mission and we have a back and forth with folks trying to apologize for the dev studio and critique the negative fan reception.
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  • Warhawke80Warhawke80 Member UncommonPosts: 142
    There isn't much Biowoke is doing these days that excites me, after this one fails (and it will) I expect EA to just absorbe whats left and never use the company name again just like they did with Westwood.
    NorseGod
  • azarhalazarhal Member RarePosts: 1,295


    I said this in another post and will repeat it here. Strange that a company known for good story telling isn't focusing on the story in these demos. All I see is flying and fighting missions. One streamer did talk a little about lore and the storyline but he wasn't excited about it.



    A lot of streamers mentioned they were still working on balance issues. Someone else stated the wildlife seemed disconnected. They were there but it felt like they were just filling up space and unlike other games weren't really doing anything. Someone else noticed that at the time he played you couldn't see what your drops were until you returned to your base. So he couldn't switch to a better weapon or change his load-out at all until he returned to check his inventory.



    Hopefully most of this stuff will be worked out before launch.



    I mean if you're about the story then it makes sense that you can't change equipment till back at the fort. I mean who is going to put it on your equipment out in the field? The story mainly takes place back at the fort where the team that works with getting your equipment ready and where you get missions are at.
    I don't see how that would make sense unless they actually determine what you have when you open your inventory in town and what you pickup in the filed is just a place holder till then.  This would give them more control over your leveling speed as a lot will be determined by gear quality.  What other game does that?
    It's not that different from ME2/ME3 where you can only change gear at loadout stations which are almost inexistant in mission (limited to unlocking new weapon types during missions and a few long missions). You can only change armor parts in the Normandy though.

    You know the gear quality and type right away when you pick something in Anthem (there is a small popup that says "rare pistol" for example), but you have to equip everything via the Forge interface at Fort Tarsis.
  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Member EpicPosts: 4,319
    There are just certain companies at this point that buyer beware and some basic common sense caution should be used.  EA/Bioware is definitely one of those companies.  How many years has it been since Bioware released something good?  And how many has it been since EA did not try to screw you from a monetization model.


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  • RobbgobbRobbgobb Member UncommonPosts: 641
    Loot hunt is only part I am worried about. If it is fun then I will enjoy the game. If it is a dreaded grind then I will probably stop.
  • MikeBMikeB MMORPG.com Community ManagerAdministrator RarePosts: 6,418
    edited January 10
    Ilaya said:
    Nice Article tho!

    But it says inside; "but in Anthem, you’ll have to just recraft (if possible) or keep hunting manually for the perfect version of whatever it is you’re looking for."

    And tbh, isn't that the Grind we all look for? What hooks us and make us stay in the Game? As in every other Game as well? I like that, it gives me the Grind/the replayability i "need/i look for". To get that one good roll which i want/i need. If Anthem does that right, i'm good.

    So....i hope that the Demo will show us what is going on in Anthem. Looking forward to it.
    I want to hunt for the good rolls, too! But there are a bunch of layers of RNG here. First you need to find the item, then it needs to roll four Inscriptions you want, and then those Inscriptions need to have the values you want. And keep in mind these items can drop anywhere in the game. So you can't just go farm one boss over and over to focus on finding that god roll for a particular item.

    Given all of those things, it's my opinion that there should be some bad luck protection (some form of rerolling) built into the game. This is pretty consistent with what other games have been doing after learning this lesson the hard way. My hope is that BioWare reverses course on this before launch so that it doesn't have to do it reactively in response to players quitting in frustration.

    Maybe you disagree and that's OK, too. But that's my position.
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 18,603
    Ikeda said:
    The more I see, the more I realize that game developers aren't doing things that I find interesting or worth my time. Maybe that's me being older. Maybe that's them and their disconnect. Of course, the Fortnite game proves that millions like trivial stuff that doesn't remotely interest me anymore.
    Haha, I'm right there with you. They can get the hell off my lawn. :lol:


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  • MisterZebubMisterZebub Member EpicPosts: 3,197
    edited January 10
    I'm just apathetic about Anthem. Nothing they've shown plays to the strengths that gave rise to my interest and fandom in Bioware games in the first place, and what they have shown looks far to close to other studios generic pew pew grind/loot fest games in the industry that put me to sleep almost instantly.
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