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2018 State of Elyria Retrospective

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054
    New statement by Caspien... they didn't cut SpatialOS, they merely chose a different technology stack.   LOL!


    MadFrenchieWellspring

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  • WellspringWellspring Member EpicPosts: 1,200
    New statement by Caspien... they didn't cut SpatialOS, they merely chose a different technology stack.   LOL!


    "No features have been cut from the game at this point". 

    Well, to be fair, the reverse statement is also likely to be true,  "No features have been added to the game at this point."  :wink:


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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054
    edited January 14
    New statement by Caspien... they didn't cut SpatialOS, they merely chose a different technology stack.   LOL!


    "No features have been cut from the game at this point". 

    Well, to be fair, the reverse statement is also likely to be true,  "No features have been added to the game at this point."  :wink:


    Really soon we should see some "Pre-Elyria" stuff. That is the successor to VoxElyria which was shut down last year and ElyriaMud which was shut down before that. Third time's a charm? They may even (perish the thought) let people into it.  Just the select Chosen of course... and moving around in a low texture environment will be hailed as some great step...  Forget all the complicated systems... but we can move avatars!! Maybe even swing at each other with bad animation!


     
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  • MendelMendel Member EpicPosts: 3,278
    New statement by Caspien... they didn't cut SpatialOS, they merely chose a different technology stack.   LOL!


    When you cannot make progress, redefine the history of what you said so that it looks like no promises were made.  An adult-in-the-room is desperately needed there.



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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054
    edited January 14
    Mendel said:
    New statement by Caspien... they didn't cut SpatialOS, they merely chose a different technology stack.   LOL!


    When you cannot make progress, redefine the history of what you said so that it looks like no promises were made.  An adult-in-the-room is desperately needed there.



    I've been saying that, literally... for years.   It's why I do things like actually POST the prior year's State of Elyria.  To show what was stated in his own words, and contrast it with what was actually produced.

    The Ivory Tower never questions.  Just nods at the latest "new" statements and then usually follows it up with the obligatory "Thanks for working so hard!"

    WellspringGdemami

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  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 2,411
    I'm a CU backer.

    CSE were wildly off in their estimated timelines at release.

    Some people give them shit (trolling) for missing deadlines, other people (me including) are just a mix of critical-but-hopeful about them making a game that's good - even if the good game is late.

    Question: why are people so much more critical of CoE than of CU for being late, considering the financial scope of each project seems similar?

    Note: I don't know a ton about CoE.
    One other observation in addition to the points mentioned above: CoE's crowdfunding model is based on selling in game power - they have taken a page out of the Star Citizen playbook and sell backers virtual goods/in game power.

    Its probably even worse in this "game" (its really just a scam to dupe people into giving them money as far as I can tell), considering they sell I think it is/was $10,000 packages to buy kingdoms? Something insane like that.

    Its quite strange really. I have even recently seen some youtubers salivating over this "game", apparently thinking its going to be the best thing since sliced bread, but when you take a closer look there is nothing there except sales of virtual items that don't even exist yet.




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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member EpicPosts: 2,830
    YashaX said:
    I'm a CU backer.

    CSE were wildly off in their estimated timelines at release.

    Some people give them shit (trolling) for missing deadlines, other people (me including) are just a mix of critical-but-hopeful about them making a game that's good - even if the good game is late.

    Question: why are people so much more critical of CoE than of CU for being late, considering the financial scope of each project seems similar?

    Note: I don't know a ton about CoE.
    One other observation in addition to the points mentioned above: CoE's crowdfunding model is based on selling in game power - they have taken a page out of the Star Citizen playbook and sell backers virtual goods/in game power.

    Its probably even worse in this "game" (its really just a scam to dupe people into giving them money as far as I can tell), considering they sell I think it is/was $10,000 packages to buy kingdoms? Something insane like that.

    Its quite strange really. I have even recently seen some youtubers salivating over this "game", apparently thinking its going to be the best thing since sliced bread, but when you take a closer look there is nothing there except sales of virtual items that don't even exist yet.




    Only a measily 10.000? Star Citizen laughs at that with its 27.000 dollar Legatus Pack.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 2,411
    lahnmir said:
    YashaX said:
    I'm a CU backer.

    CSE were wildly off in their estimated timelines at release.

    Some people give them shit (trolling) for missing deadlines, other people (me including) are just a mix of critical-but-hopeful about them making a game that's good - even if the good game is late.

    Question: why are people so much more critical of CoE than of CU for being late, considering the financial scope of each project seems similar?

    Note: I don't know a ton about CoE.
    One other observation in addition to the points mentioned above: CoE's crowdfunding model is based on selling in game power - they have taken a page out of the Star Citizen playbook and sell backers virtual goods/in game power.

    Its probably even worse in this "game" (its really just a scam to dupe people into giving them money as far as I can tell), considering they sell I think it is/was $10,000 packages to buy kingdoms? Something insane like that.

    Its quite strange really. I have even recently seen some youtubers salivating over this "game", apparently thinking its going to be the best thing since sliced bread, but when you take a closer look there is nothing there except sales of virtual items that don't even exist yet.




    Only a measily 10.000? Star Citizen laughs at that with its 27.000 dollar Legatus Pack.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Yeah maybe that's the problem, they obviously need to charge more for that stuff to get to an alpha stage at least.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054
    YashaX said:
    lahnmir said:
    YashaX said:
    I'm a CU backer.

    CSE were wildly off in their estimated timelines at release.

    Some people give them shit (trolling) for missing deadlines, other people (me including) are just a mix of critical-but-hopeful about them making a game that's good - even if the good game is late.

    Question: why are people so much more critical of CoE than of CU for being late, considering the financial scope of each project seems similar?

    Note: I don't know a ton about CoE.
    One other observation in addition to the points mentioned above: CoE's crowdfunding model is based on selling in game power - they have taken a page out of the Star Citizen playbook and sell backers virtual goods/in game power.

    Its probably even worse in this "game" (its really just a scam to dupe people into giving them money as far as I can tell), considering they sell I think it is/was $10,000 packages to buy kingdoms? Something insane like that.

    Its quite strange really. I have even recently seen some youtubers salivating over this "game", apparently thinking its going to be the best thing since sliced bread, but when you take a closer look there is nothing there except sales of virtual items that don't even exist yet.




    Only a measily 10.000? Star Citizen laughs at that with its 27.000 dollar Legatus Pack.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Yeah maybe that's the problem, they obviously need to charge more for that stuff to get to an alpha stage at least.
    Give it time.  They recently sold their first “Legendary” items in the store. I believe they were $1500 each and they sold out in seconds.  I also believe they said these were the cheapest but I’m not sure if that referred to cheapest Legendary Location (these were Inns) or cheapest Legendaries over all.
    tweedledumb99

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    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 218
    New statement by Caspien... they didn't cut SpatialOS, they merely chose a different technology stack.   LOL!


    Maybe I'm misunderstanding this. But saying "no features have been cut" but then adding in "oh but some have been changed". It's pretty much the same thing to me. I don't have discord anymore so can't check this up for myself, did he go into anymore detail about which features were changed around? Cause really without him explaining what features were changed. That whole comment is utterly pointless. Unless assuming someone was asking him if something has been cut. 

    I would also wonder why changing them around so early. Surely SBS couldn't tell much of anything playing pre-elyria themselves. I thought most changes would really happen in alpha. Not basically on the drawing board before anyone can even really test them.

    Also can't help but compare this to blizzard. Over the years saying "we cut this from the game cause it wasn't fun anymore". While have zero idea what their playerbase even finds fun.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054
    edited January 15
    Torrsk said:
    New statement by Caspien... they didn't cut SpatialOS, they merely chose a different technology stack.   LOL!


    Maybe I'm misunderstanding this. But saying "no features have been cut" but then adding in "oh but some have been changed". It's pretty much the same thing to me. I don't have discord anymore so can't check this up for myself, did he go into anymore detail about which features were changed around? Cause really without him explaining what features were changed. That whole comment is utterly pointless. Unless assuming someone was asking him if something has been cut. 


    Look... his very first statement is that they didn't cut SpatialOS, they just are using something else...

    Do you really need to go any further to realize how useless his communication is?  But nobody in that Discord would even dare point out that the Emperor Has No Clothes. They just nod along as those that statement makes total sense.   

    Of course SpatialOS wasn't cut!!  They are just using something else instead!  Those damn Harbingers always trying to spin negativity...


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    KylerancraftseekerGdemamitweedledumb99

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  • jahlonjahlon Member UncommonPosts: 314
    New statement by Caspien... they didn't cut SpatialOS, they merely chose a different technology stack.   LOL!



    We didn't cut SpatialOS....

    ...but we cut SpatialOS....

    cause we aren't using SpatialOS.


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  • MendelMendel Member EpicPosts: 3,278
    jahlon said:
    New statement by Caspien... they didn't cut SpatialOS, they merely chose a different technology stack.   LOL!



    We didn't cut SpatialOS....

    ...but we cut SpatialOS....

    cause we aren't using SpatialOS.


    Looking too closely at SBS/CoE's statements will give you a headache.  Logic, truly, makes them seem clueless, to paraphrase my signature quote.



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  • jahlonjahlon Member UncommonPosts: 314
    Mendel said:
    jahlon said:
    New statement by Caspien... they didn't cut SpatialOS, they merely chose a different technology stack.   LOL!



    We didn't cut SpatialOS....

    ...but we cut SpatialOS....

    cause we aren't using SpatialOS.


    Looking too closely at SBS/CoE's statements will give you a headache.  Logic, truly, makes them seem clueless, to paraphrase my signature quote.




    I stopped following CoE because Caspian is one of those people who thinks he is the smartest guy in the room, but the truth is he has surrounded himself with yes men who tell him every idea he has is solid gold.

    Clearly if you follow the development of CoE, they didn't really have a clue.  
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,937
    jahlon said:
    Mendel said:
    jahlon said:
    New statement by Caspien... they didn't cut SpatialOS, they merely chose a different technology stack.   LOL!



    We didn't cut SpatialOS....

    ...but we cut SpatialOS....

    cause we aren't using SpatialOS.


    Looking too closely at SBS/CoE's statements will give you a headache.  Logic, truly, makes them seem clueless, to paraphrase my signature quote.




    I stopped following CoE because Caspian is one of those people who thinks he is the smartest guy in the room, but the truth is he has surrounded himself with yes men who tell him every idea he has is solid gold.

    Clearly if you follow the development of CoE, they didn't really have a clue.  
    From Day 1.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054
    But they DID have Gantt Charts!
    tweedledumb99

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    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • craftseekercraftseeker Member RarePosts: 1,740
    Kyleran said:
    jahlon said:
    Mendel said:
    jahlon said:
    New statement by Caspien... they didn't cut SpatialOS, they merely chose a different technology stack.   LOL!



    We didn't cut SpatialOS....

    ...but we cut SpatialOS....

    cause we aren't using SpatialOS.


    Looking too closely at SBS/CoE's statements will give you a headache.  Logic, truly, makes them seem clueless, to paraphrase my signature quote.




    I stopped following CoE because Caspian is one of those people who thinks he is the smartest guy in the room, but the truth is he has surrounded himself with yes men who tell him every idea he has is solid gold.

    Clearly if you follow the development of CoE, they didn't really have a clue.  
    From Day 1.
    Way back at the beginning of this I pointed out that Caspian 's only previous project was some genealogy software. In that example he promised big, delivered nothing, and eventually folded his tent and went back to being someone else's employee. 

    So why does it surprise anyone that on this project he promised big and has delivered nothing? Particularly, with no previous game development experience. He is obviously totally out of his depth.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,937
    Kyleran said:
    jahlon said:
    Mendel said:
    jahlon said:
    New statement by Caspien... they didn't cut SpatialOS, they merely chose a different technology stack.   LOL!



    We didn't cut SpatialOS....

    ...but we cut SpatialOS....

    cause we aren't using SpatialOS.


    Looking too closely at SBS/CoE's statements will give you a headache.  Logic, truly, makes them seem clueless, to paraphrase my signature quote.




    I stopped following CoE because Caspian is one of those people who thinks he is the smartest guy in the room, but the truth is he has surrounded himself with yes men who tell him every idea he has is solid gold.

    Clearly if you follow the development of CoE, they didn't really have a clue.  
    From Day 1.
    Way back at the beginning of this I pointed out that Caspian 's only previous project was some genealogy software. In that example he promised big, delivered nothing, and eventually folded his tent and went back to being someone else's employee. 

    So why does it surprise anyone that on this project he promised big and has delivered nothing? Particularly, with no previous game development experience. He is obviously totally out of his depth.
    Thanks for sharing info on Caspian's background,  I  was sorta thinking it was more along the lines of carnival sideshow pitchman or perhaps even a snake charmer.

    ;)
    craftseeker

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  • WellspringWellspring Member EpicPosts: 1,200
    edited January 16
    But they DID have Gantt Charts!
    Allegedly... I don't think anyone ever got to see them. They probably "didn't cut" those too. 
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  • TorrskTorrsk Member UncommonPosts: 218
    Look... his very first statement is that they didn't cut SpatialOS, they just are using something else...

    Do you really need to go any further to realize how useless his communication is?  But nobody in that Discord would even dare point out that the Emperor Has No Clothes. They just nod along as those that statement makes total sense.   

    Of course SpatialOS wasn't cut!!  They are just using something else instead!  Those damn Harbingers always trying to spin negativity...


    Don't really need to. I have been one of a few, that for years have been complaining how utterly crap their communication is. Was a good day when Caspian finally replied to me saying something like "Our communication is fine. It doesn't need to be improved upon".

    All the while I'm waiting for their state of elyria post. Who knows, maybe it was only released on discord like 99% of the other things. Not that I really follow the game much anymore. Got over nothing coming out but more lame events. Though it does give me a laugh whenever they release anything and seeing people comment how awesome it is. When they really shown nothing. I sometimes wonder how people have so much money to throw at the game, when they seem so brain dead.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054
    Torrsk said:
    Look... his very first statement is that they didn't cut SpatialOS, they just are using something else...

    Do you really need to go any further to realize how useless his communication is?  But nobody in that Discord would even dare point out that the Emperor Has No Clothes. They just nod along as those that statement makes total sense.   

    Of course SpatialOS wasn't cut!!  They are just using something else instead!  Those damn Harbingers always trying to spin negativity...




    All the while I'm waiting for their state of elyria post. Who knows, maybe it was only released on discord like 99% of the other things. N
    I think he's been scared off of making an official State of Elyria post.  His latest blurb was that he would put out a 0.5 update blog since that was the state of the game.

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,937
    Torrsk said:
    Look... his very first statement is that they didn't cut SpatialOS, they just are using something else...

    Do you really need to go any further to realize how useless his communication is?  But nobody in that Discord would even dare point out that the Emperor Has No Clothes. They just nod along as those that statement makes total sense.   

    Of course SpatialOS wasn't cut!!  They are just using something else instead!  Those damn Harbingers always trying to spin negativity...




    All the while I'm waiting for their state of elyria post. Who knows, maybe it was only released on discord like 99% of the other things. N
    I think he's been scared off of making an official State of Elyria post.  His latest blurb was that he would put out a 0.5 update blog since that was the state of the game.
    You may recall he really did the same last summer with what was a .4 update blog.

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 11,687
    jahlon said:

    I stopped following CoE because Caspian is one of those people who thinks he is the smartest guy in the room, but the truth is he has surrounded himself with yes men who tell him every idea he has is a solid gold.
    ....sounds like Slapshot very much.
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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,713
    Gdemami said:
    jahlon said:

    I stopped following CoE because Caspian is one of those people who thinks he is the smartest guy in the room, but the truth is he has surrounded himself with yes men who tell him every idea he has is a solid gold.
    ....sounds like Slapshot very much.
    Which ideas exactly did Slapshot have that made us fork over money for projects which were then cut?
    Oh pardon me, I mean they were not cut of course we just stopped using them.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,054
    edited January 16
    Dakeru said:
    Gdemami said:
    jahlon said:

    I stopped following CoE because Caspian is one of those people who thinks he is the smartest guy in the room, but the truth is he has surrounded himself with yes men who tell him every idea he has is a solid gold.
    ....sounds like Slapshot very much.
    Which ideas exactly did Slapshot have that made us fork over money for projects which were then cut?
    Oh pardon me, I mean they were not cut of course we just stopped using them.
    Speaking of which.  For the February sale I am going to sell some Legendary Harbinger robes.  Actual robes which were worn while posting. Each will come with Lore around it based on a specific post.

    March is even better.  That will feature Robes and associated documentation detailing FUTURE posts.  I will walk you through epic posts which are unlike any others you have seen and for a small 5 figure fee YOU can read about them before they exist!

    Save up.  


    Speaking of which...  the 0.5 update should be out shortly and will probably have an associated sale.  Doesn’t look like we get a State Of Elyria this Jan for the first time in years.   Wonder why?

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    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

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    My ignore list finally has one occupant after 12 years. I am the strongest supporter of free speech on here, but free speech does not mean forced listening. Have fun my friend. Hope you find a new stalking target.

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