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Sea of Thieves – Also Misrepresented - MMORPG.com

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Everyone loves a good pirate game, as a certain recent release proved, so Red Thomas takes an exploratory dip into Sea of Thieves to explore why some of his earlier impressions of the game may no longer hold true.

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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 8,768
    edited January 3
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  • PhryPhry Member EpicPosts: 10,204
    Its kind of hillarious, that as bad as Atlas is, its probably still better than SoT, if only because more players/server  150 vs 16? its a bit sad really. ;)
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  • Dick1232Dick1232 Member UncommonPosts: 37
    SOT is a million times better then Atlas.  
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  • PhryPhry Member EpicPosts: 10,204
    Dick1232 said:
    SOT is a million times better then Atlas.  
    1 million x 0 is still 0 however. :p
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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 6,007
    First mistake... Windows 10. Yes, I have Windows 10, but I won't support exclusive platform games. Just ask Rock Star if I bought Red Dead Redemption 2 or if I bought another Windows 10 exclusive State of Decay 2. I understand console or PC only games, but when you start doing crap like operating system exclusive, something tells me you think too much of yourself.
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  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 4,706
    Rhoklaw said:
    First mistake... Windows 10. Yes, I have Windows 10, but I won't support exclusive platform games. Just ask Rock Star if I bought Red Dead Redemption 2 or if I bought another Windows 10 exclusive State of Decay 2. I understand console or PC only games, but when you start doing crap like operating system exclusive, something tells me you think too much of yourself.
    I mean it isn't OS exclusive. It's on the Xbox as well. Also what are you talking about with RDR2? That was on Xbox and PS4, not exclusive to a specific platform, and doesn't even have a PC port yet (but will).
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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member EpicPosts: 6,650
    edited January 3
    Phry said:
    Its kind of hillarious, that as bad as Atlas is, its probably still better than SoT, if only because more players/server  150 vs 16? its a bit sad really. ;)
    Atlas and SOT are not even the same genre on their core that be why.

    Atlas will hit the MMO Sandbox key SOT never will neither intends to do. SOT is polished on the AAA tier what makes it feel and play way more smooth than Atlas that shares problems of Ark, but then Atlas adds far more feature-set and freedom of play, with self-owned servers and now modding will allow for anything people want to do with it really.

    There is no better just what people prefer to play, there's the purely match-based PvP Blackwake (with Ubisoft's one upcoming too), there's the online/co-op SOT, there's the MMO Atlas, different things for different people under the same theme.
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  • timeraidertimeraider Member UncommonPosts: 756

    Phry said:

    Its kind of hillarious, that as bad as Atlas is, its probably still better than SoT, if only because more players/server  150 vs 16? its a bit sad really. ;)




    There is NO way you played Atlas. Its a crap clone of Ark and even more buggier and unfinished if you can believe that after the state Ark is still in.
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  • AmatheAmathe Member EpicPosts: 4,260
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  • jgerblickjgerblick Member CommonPosts: 2
    Very well put. I held out on this game despite high interest at launch because of reviews, finally gave in recently after a lot had been added, and I'm having a blast.
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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Member EpicPosts: 6,007
    Rhoklaw said:
    First mistake... Windows 10. Yes, I have Windows 10, but I won't support exclusive platform games. Just ask Rock Star if I bought Red Dead Redemption 2 or if I bought another Windows 10 exclusive State of Decay 2. I understand console or PC only games, but when you start doing crap like operating system exclusive, something tells me you think too much of yourself.
    I mean it isn't OS exclusive. It's on the Xbox as well. Also what are you talking about with RDR2? That was on Xbox and PS4, not exclusive to a specific platform, and doesn't even have a PC port yet (but will).
    I'm a PC gamer. I don't do console. Hence my reason for pointing out RDR2. However, I have nothing against RDR2 or other console exclusive games, I just won't support them. Despite the inkling of RDR2 being ported to PC, I won't hold my breath.

    SoT and SoD2 are both operating system exclusive on PC. That is the point I'm trying to make as I clearly state that I'm ok with console or PC exclusive games. I even pointed out that I have Windows 10 on my computer, but I won't purchase either game because of it's OS exclusivity.


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  • MisterZebubMisterZebub Member EpicPosts: 3,033
    So pirate games are good but pirating games is bad... Huh. 
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 31,482
    Rhoklaw said:
    Rhoklaw said:
    First mistake... Windows 10. Yes, I have Windows 10, but I won't support exclusive platform games. Just ask Rock Star if I bought Red Dead Redemption 2 or if I bought another Windows 10 exclusive State of Decay 2. I understand console or PC only games, but when you start doing crap like operating system exclusive, something tells me you think too much of yourself.
    I mean it isn't OS exclusive. It's on the Xbox as well. Also what are you talking about with RDR2? That was on Xbox and PS4, not exclusive to a specific platform, and doesn't even have a PC port yet (but will).
    I'm a PC gamer. I don't do console. Hence my reason for pointing out RDR2. However, I have nothing against RDR2 or other console exclusive games, I just won't support them. Despite the inkling of RDR2 being ported to PC, I won't hold my breath.

    SoT and SoD2 are both operating system exclusive on PC. That is the point I'm trying to make as I clearly state that I'm ok with console or PC exclusive games. I even pointed out that I have Windows 10 on my computer, but I won't purchase either game because of it's OS exclusivity.


    Glad you pointed this out, I might have considered playing but I run Win 7 and am not willing to upgrade, so no SoT for me.
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  • AlteiirAlteiir Member UncommonPosts: 12
    I like SoT. I had a ton of fun with the pvp portion of the game. My problem with the game is that there's very little to do. There is about 3 varieties of the same quest and they ultimately give you the same or similar rewards.

    The sailing is hands down the best thing about the game. The FPS and server performance are buttery smooth - Atlas will never achieve that. They definitely went for a jump in and play design, which is fine, but it doesn't really allow you to acquire anything great. There's no crafting system, unique weapon types, or attachments. The progression system just isn't there for me.
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  • PhryPhry Member EpicPosts: 10,204
    Kyleran said:
    Rhoklaw said:
    Rhoklaw said:
    First mistake... Windows 10. Yes, I have Windows 10, but I won't support exclusive platform games. Just ask Rock Star if I bought Red Dead Redemption 2 or if I bought another Windows 10 exclusive State of Decay 2. I understand console or PC only games, but when you start doing crap like operating system exclusive, something tells me you think too much of yourself.
    I mean it isn't OS exclusive. It's on the Xbox as well. Also what are you talking about with RDR2? That was on Xbox and PS4, not exclusive to a specific platform, and doesn't even have a PC port yet (but will).
    I'm a PC gamer. I don't do console. Hence my reason for pointing out RDR2. However, I have nothing against RDR2 or other console exclusive games, I just won't support them. Despite the inkling of RDR2 being ported to PC, I won't hold my breath.

    SoT and SoD2 are both operating system exclusive on PC. That is the point I'm trying to make as I clearly state that I'm ok with console or PC exclusive games. I even pointed out that I have Windows 10 on my computer, but I won't purchase either game because of it's OS exclusivity.


    Glad you pointed this out, I might have considered playing but I run Win 7 and am not willing to upgrade, so no SoT for me.
    Well, not sure Win 10 is an upgrade so much as a side grade with spywares  :p
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  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Member LegendaryPosts: 11,170
    Going forward many more games will require Windows 10. It has already passed the soon to be unsupported Windows 7 in usage. 

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  • InteritusInteritus Member UncommonPosts: 210
    If you have an interesting game that is a buggy mess, it's easier to bring people back than a polished game that lacks content.  It's easier to convince people to return to a game that looked fun, but was too buggy to play.  Where polished games with shallow content, people simply ask why wasn't that in from the start. I don't think I can get anyone to play SoT to come back to it.

    I personally have a lot of issues with SoT, from character creator to server pop. I can ultimately get passed that if I thought I'd play for any decent amount of time.  Which is a shame because SoT is the kind of gameplay i wanted compared to Skull and Bones.
  • meonthissitemeonthissite Member UncommonPosts: 906
    My husband and I played in the beta, it was fun for a second but the reason why we decided to stop playing it was we were attacked non-stop while getting back to the place where we sell the treasure. It's definitely not fun because there were no police, see in the high seas back when pirates did roam, there were the British and the Chinese Royal Navies! This made it possible for raiders who were attacking other pirates, to also get attacked themselves by the police basically. That meant they had to run away to prevent losing what they got.

    There was also the pirate accords which the pirates did follow! It would mean war if they didn't and pirates needed each other to make the police have a harder time catching anyone! So the game was unrealistic in that sense! There is alot missing!
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  • WizardryWizardry Member EpicPosts: 15,214
    SOT released with a ship and some water and VERY little else,that does NOT make a game.
    I am quite certain Microsoft rushed this out but can't begin to imagine the conversations between develoepr and Microsoft.
    Likely to the effect,we have no more money,what do you want us to do...RELEASE it.

    Bottom line is they ripped people off badly and at $80 that is outright stealing.
    From, what i saw the game was a shell and nothing more,it would need about 2 years of good effort to turn it into a viable game.

    If i was just going to hit a ship and sail around looking for pvp,i would play Blackwake over SOT any day.
    So at this point there is NO WAY,this game has turned itself around because it needs 2 years of work.

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  • RhygarthRhygarth Member UncommonPosts: 213
    edited January 3

    Wizardry said:

    SOT released with a ship and some water and VERY little else,that does NOT make a game.

    I am quite certain Microsoft rushed this out but can't begin to imagine the conversations between develoepr and Microsoft.

    Likely to the effect,we have no more money,what do you want us to do...RELEASE it.



    Bottom line is they ripped people off badly and at $80 that is outright stealing.

    From, what i saw the game was a shell and nothing more,it would need about 2 years of good effort to turn it into a viable game.



    If i was just going to hit a ship and sail around looking for pvp,i would play Blackwake over SOT any day.

    So at this point there is NO WAY,this game has turned itself around because it needs 2 years of work.






    I do not play SoT atm but I played it a lot when it came out and I can say hand on heart that I had a blast! the ship battles was fun and raiding a fort with other people trying to steel it omg I had such fun and TBH I paid a lot more cash for games that I had no where near the amount of fun I had in SoT, I will return to SoT this year and I can see it being even more fun than it was. My question to you Wizardry is did you even play the game ?
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  • JayFiveAliveJayFiveAlive Member UncommonPosts: 590

    Kyleran said:


    Rhoklaw said:




    Rhoklaw said:

    First mistake... Windows 10. Yes, I have Windows 10, but I won't support exclusive platform games. Just ask Rock Star if I bought Red Dead Redemption 2 or if I bought another Windows 10 exclusive State of Decay 2. I understand console or PC only games, but when you start doing crap like operating system exclusive, something tells me you think too much of yourself.


    I mean it isn't OS exclusive. It's on the Xbox as well. Also what are you talking about with RDR2? That was on Xbox and PS4, not exclusive to a specific platform, and doesn't even have a PC port yet (but will).


    I'm a PC gamer. I don't do console. Hence my reason for pointing out RDR2. However, I have nothing against RDR2 or other console exclusive games, I just won't support them. Despite the inkling of RDR2 being ported to PC, I won't hold my breath.

    SoT and SoD2 are both operating system exclusive on PC. That is the point I'm trying to make as I clearly state that I'm ok with console or PC exclusive games. I even pointed out that I have Windows 10 on my computer, but I won't purchase either game because of it's OS exclusivity.




    Glad you pointed this out, I might have considered playing but I run Win 7 and am not willing to upgrade, so no SoT for me.



    You may want to consider upgrading this year. Even Steam is cutting support for Windows 7 next year... it is time for it to die. :(
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  • SabracSabrac Member UncommonPosts: 81
    I feel conflicted with SoT because i've played it on launch and recently too, the game has change a lot in a good way, my ship was eaten by a megalodon and was an amazing and tense experience and i have many others moments like these too however i can't avoid remembering how Microsoft and Rare ship this game as a glorified early access game which is disgusting so im having a hard time into where to draw the line between how much content a game should have at launch and having the excuse by releasing the rest of the content post launch.

    Is similar to the No Man's Sky debacle should Hello games be forgived for finally delivering the game they promise years ago?.

    Ubisoft do this a lot with their tittles too (Rainbow Six Siege, For Honor, The Division).

    So... as much as i like and would like to root for Sea of Thieves, theres only one first impression and i don't wanna encourage developers and publishers doing things like these, that's just my opinion though.

    We deserve a full product, not an 60$ early access games, i could understand the excuse with indies, but with AAA companies? hell no...
  • AmatheAmathe Member EpicPosts: 4,260


    So pirate games are good but pirating games is bad... Huh. 



    What if pirates stole a shipment of pirate games? Whoah! *mind explodes*
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  • rodarinrodarin Member RarePosts: 2,316
    Amathe said:


    So pirate games are good but pirating games is bad... Huh. 



    What if pirates stole a shipment of pirate games? Whoah! *mind explodes*
    not until you find out those games were also pirated.....
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  • crankkedcrankked Member UncommonPosts: 47
    I hope we are not going to start praising these clowns after they released a piece of shit unfinished game and then were kind enough to give the DLC's for free. So sick of all these gaming studios flooding the market with garbage, taking months/years to fix it, but still charge full price on release. Sad state of affairs we are in today.....

    Also @Rhoklaw: Couldn't agree more on not supporting OS exclusive titles. If it's on PC, it should work on PC and not be limited to your shitty Win 10 software that no one wants, but is now being forced down our throats by Intel and MS.
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