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ELEX, a review so far (best RPG ever)

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  • ScotScot Member EpicPosts: 10,605
    d_20 said:
    YashaX said:
    Has any one played this on a console? If so does it run/control well?
    I played the PC version on my TV with controller support. It was fine.
    If you must use a sub-standard way of controlling your games on the PC so be it. :D

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,097
    cheyane said:
    I don't mind hard games at all in fact I love it but is the combat action oriented meaning you have to time dodges and move quickly to avoid some attack or has a timed mechanic where if you do not dispense the creature or boss in time you're toast.

    I love taking time to get strong but if I cannot fight I cannot play. I can manage something like witcher 3. Anyone can give me an indication as I've wanted to buy this on GOG.

    The early part of the game forces melee on you because your ranged attacks are just too weak to prevent them closing on you and melee is kind of awkward. In the later part you'll only melee if you want to or occasionally in a building with narrow corridors.

    But the things you need to do for melee are really no harder than in the witcher; double tap a key to dodge, RMB to block and LMB to swing. There are more advanced melee attacks like strong attacks or combos but you can get away without ever using them and just dodge and LMB for melee. Ranged skills with a bow, magic or one of my favorite weapons, the grenade launcher, later on in the game destroy everything from a distance.

    You also get the jet pack quite early and it's used with the space bar. It's very useful for getting out of trouble once you get the hang of it since it does have a limited charge that takes a few seconds to recharge.
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  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 5,434
    cheyane said:
    I don't mind hard games at all in fact I love it but is the combat action oriented meaning you have to time dodges and move quickly to avoid some attack or has a timed mechanic where if you do not dispense the creature or boss in time you're toast.

    I love taking time to get strong but if I cannot fight I cannot play. I can manage something like witcher 3. Anyone can give me an indication as I've wanted to buy this on GOG.

    Berserkers are both melee and archery, they believe in rebuilding by terraforming the land back to lush (They seem the most honest) 

    Outlaws are Guns and are desert people that believe everyone out for themselves. (they seem to have the best quest).

    Cleric's Laser weapons and SiFi, that have their own religion going on. (They seem to be nasty, graphics are not as nice).  



    Anyway, three different combat styles that don't vary much. 
    It's a LOT like the Witcher combat (real time swinging and dodging and kiting with bows).  

    Most YouTubes recommend changing the target lock in settings, this was mentioned in the OP.


    If you play on Easy, its not very hard to win most fights by level 10.  Also, it seems the world is designed to avoid ANY fight and you can explore comfortably ( I've been all around the map).  I'm level 12 and I noticed most harder bosses hang around the good loot, but that's optional for now.  In the beginning you will get some combat related quest, but their easy ones, they seem smart about this.  As I mentioned the combat is easy. 

    Just watch your meter on the bottom, when it fills up execute the finisher for more damage. To fill the meter, it's best to not button mash, strike and wait, then again and again before you know it its filled.  You have several companions you can take along. Like an mmorpg, it helps to let them gain agro, and the targets will stay on them while you run away and drink or Kite with bows or guns.... I think it's a LOT of fun. 

    Speaking of companions I go a new one Caja. They all have a story quest for you to do, and this one is a love story, the music even changes :)
  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 2,402
    Iselin said:
    I picked it up on the Steam Black Friday sale and loved it. It's a brilliant game with great characters and a story that's engaging and doesn't insult your intelligence.

    After I finished it the first time (played it through 3 times so far :)) and found out how things got the way they are and what the Cleric's religion is actually all about it was hilarious.
    Wow, how long did it take to play through 3 times? 

    Saw your review of the game on Steam btw, nice. Sounds like I'll want to join the faction that plays like a medieval fantasy RPG.
    ....
  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 6,083
    edited December 2018
    Iselin said:
    cheyane said:
    I don't mind hard games at all in fact I love it but is the combat action oriented meaning you have to time dodges and move quickly to avoid some attack or has a timed mechanic where if you do not dispense the creature or boss in time you're toast.

    I love taking time to get strong but if I cannot fight I cannot play. I can manage something like witcher 3. Anyone can give me an indication as I've wanted to buy this on GOG.

    The early part of the game forces melee on you because your ranged attacks are just too weak to prevent them closing on you and melee is kind of awkward. In the later part you'll only melee if you want to or occasionally in a building with narrow corridors.

    But the things you need to do for melee are really no harder than in the witcher; double tap a key to dodge, RMB to block and LMB to swing. There are more advanced melee attacks like strong attacks or combos but you can get away without ever using them and just dodge and LMB for melee. Ranged skills with a bow, magic or one of my favorite weapons, the grenade launcher, later on in the game destroy everything from a distance.

    You also get the jet pack quite early and it's used with the space bar. It's very useful for getting out of trouble once you get the hang of it since it does have a limited charge that takes a few seconds to recharge.
    delete5230 said:
    cheyane said:
    I don't mind hard games at all in fact I love it but is the combat action oriented meaning you have to time dodges and move quickly to avoid some attack or has a timed mechanic where if you do not dispense the creature or boss in time you're toast.

    I love taking time to get strong but if I cannot fight I cannot play. I can manage something like witcher 3. Anyone can give me an indication as I've wanted to buy this on GOG.

    Berserkers are both melee and archery, they believe in rebuilding by terraforming the land back to lush (They seem the most honest) 

    Outlaws are Guns and are desert people that believe everyone out for themselves. (they seem to have the best quest).

    Cleric's Laser weapons and SiFi, that have their own religion going on. (They seem to be nasty, graphics are not as nice).  



    Anyway, three different combat styles that don't vary much. 
    It's a LOT like the Witcher combat (real time swinging and dodging and kiting with bows).  

    Most YouTubes recommend changing the target lock in settings, this was mentioned in the OP.


    If you play on Easy, its not very hard to win most fights by level 10.  Also, it seems the world is designed to avoid ANY fight and you can explore comfortably ( I've been all around the map).  I'm level 12 and I noticed most harder bosses hang around the good loot, but that's optional for now.  In the beginning you will get some combat related quest, but their easy ones, they seem smart about this.  As I mentioned the combat is easy. 

    Just watch your meter on the bottom, when it fills up execute the finisher for more damage. To fill the meter, it's best to not button mash, strike and wait, then again and again before you know it its filled.  You have several companions you can take along. Like an mmorpg, it helps to let them gain agro, and the targets will stay on them while you run away and drink or Kite with bows or guns.... I think it's a LOT of fun. 

    Speaking of companions I go a new one Caja. They all have a story quest for you to do, and this one is a love story, the music even changes :)

    Fabulous ! Thank you , you two helped me a lot and @delete5230 thanks for the thread I would not have decided to pick this up or else.
    delete5230
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  • LtldoggLtldogg Member UncommonPosts: 236
    Great thread and thanks for pointing me to this game!
  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 5,434
    As I mentioned I have a new companion Caja.  I'm helping her with her companion quest, but we have to fight a World Boss and it's a large raptor looking thing that's though as nails.  We took out his minions and attempted twice using powerful grenades and took a good chunk of his life, but still can't quite get him. I was able to save so that's good.  I gain too much agro with the grenade's so I'll try using the jet pack and fly up and let Caja take the agro.  I have to look at my potion inventory too..... Wife is mad at me, so were going out to eat right now :(   

    Hay if I can't beat him, I could always come back later, because its a close fight. 

    I just upgraded my bow, my two handed sword is weak and I haven't upgraded my abilities very high yet..... So many abilities wants, so little points !
  • cheyanecheyane Member EpicPosts: 6,083
    Got it for 15 Euros on Green Man Gaming with my VIP discount. It's cheaper than on Steam.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member EpicPosts: 2,208
    Credit where credit is due @delete5230 you got a whole lot of people into Elex, great! Superb game with that Euro flavor and no hand holding, AA while taking a fair amount of risk with its setting, world layout etc. Again, great!

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 5,434
    lahnmir said:
    Credit where credit is due @delete5230 you got a whole lot of people into Elex, great! Superb game with that Euro flavor and no hand holding, AA while taking a fair amount of risk with its setting, world layout etc. Again, great!

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I really really care about people.  If I know something I tell everyone.
  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 5,434
    edited December 2018
    Don't forget to get the Sun Glasses.... I posted a video on the first page ( 7 tips for beginners). 

    And 

    Settings>difficulty>close combat focus, set to manual.
    Octagon7711
  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,147
    It reminds me a lot of Risen, the support mechacnis like people getting annoyed of you entering their rooms. I love it.

    Played for a while, having a blast. 

    Jut like I thought, the game is rough, but has a lot of cool things layed around.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,097
    YashaX said:
    Iselin said:
    I picked it up on the Steam Black Friday sale and loved it. It's a brilliant game with great characters and a story that's engaging and doesn't insult your intelligence.

    After I finished it the first time (played it through 3 times so far :)) and found out how things got the way they are and what the Cleric's religion is actually all about it was hilarious.
    Wow, how long did it take to play through 3 times? 

    Saw your review of the game on Steam btw, nice. Sounds like I'll want to join the faction that plays like a medieval fantasy RPG.
    It takes much longer the first time, of course :) I'd say it's a good 60-100 hours depending on how much you explore out of the way places.

    I wanted to try all 3 factions so I did. The subsequent playthroughs are faster because you know where to go at your level and which skills to zero in on. There's one for example, that shows you all the locations of the teleporters on the map. You still need to travel to them to unlock them but knowing where they are helps a lot.

    There's another skill that prevents low level critters from attacking you and that also speeds things along.

    One thing though... in each playthrough I have found things I missed previously and some of the outcomes, both important main story ones and small, trivial ones, are a bit different depending on some of the things you choose to do or can do based on your cold level.

    It's re-playable at least twice for the factions but I'm not done with it yet and will go back to it once my current Diablo 3 obsession is played out :)
    NycteliosYashaX
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,020
    Forgrimm said:
    Forgrimm said:
    Hmm, I'm debating between this or Fallout 4 for the Steam sale.
    - Fallout 4 is a themepark RPG
    - Elex is a personal development RPG 

    What are you in the mood for ?
    I was under the impression that Fallout 4 was more of an open world, sandbox type RPG, no?
    Yes it is. 
    But still a themepark. It's a high quality game where it's all of that. Thats why it will be a classic.

    I'll be honest, it's so good I would play that first :)


    ELEX finally fell below $20 for the big sale.... One thing I notice with any game on steam.... Once a game drops once, it will drop the same or below next sale :)
    Didn't notice it was less than $20.  I'd pick it up for that for sure.  Just for exploring the landscape, $20 seems an okay price.

    Still waiting on my TMNT Arkham series-style co-op game to rule them all, though.
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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,147
    Forgrimm said:
    Forgrimm said:
    Hmm, I'm debating between this or Fallout 4 for the Steam sale.
    - Fallout 4 is a themepark RPG
    - Elex is a personal development RPG 

    What are you in the mood for ?
    I was under the impression that Fallout 4 was more of an open world, sandbox type RPG, no?
    Yes it is. 
    But still a themepark. It's a high quality game where it's all of that. Thats why it will be a classic.

    I'll be honest, it's so good I would play that first :)


    ELEX finally fell below $20 for the big sale.... One thing I notice with any game on steam.... Once a game drops once, it will drop the same or below next sale :)
    Didn't notice it was less than $20.  I'd pick it up for that for sure.  Just for exploring the landscape, $20 seems an okay price.

    Still waiting on my TMNT Arkham series-style co-op game to rule them all, though.
    Well, platinum games tried and they did exactly what you are describing, but they missed the mark... So if they can't pull it off I don't know who could.
    MadFrenchie

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  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 2,332
    I looked into this game heavily since this thread came up. But I don't think I like single player RPG's. 

    I bought dark souls 3 but didn't play it for long, FO4 didn't play it for long, witcher 3 couldn't really get into it. 

    But I got into Skyrim big time. I also got into Divinity II: original sin but that was because of the turn based combat more than anything. 

    I was looking at the game and I'm like, ugh, i am not sure I can get into it. 

    Either way though, nice passionate post by Delete. 
  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 2,966
    Why was the OP banned?
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 2,586
    Yeah no, the combat and animations are absolute garbage.  If you're gonna do the third-person actiony combat, do it right or don't do it at all.  I would rather play a well-done first-person only or even turn-based game than the half-assed attempts seen here and in other games.
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,020
    Some of the details the OP includes are a little embellished.

    For exanple: not all NPCs are important or even have unique dialogue as the OP submits; many are named simply "Worker," "Guard," or some other title and say much of nothing at all.

    Animation locking isn't a favorite of mine, but the combat is definitely high enough quality for an RPG.


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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,147
    Forgrimm said:
    Why was the OP banned?
    What the hell... I log in some days and see 4 or 5 peeps just banned and I can't stop thinking "in some dark corner of this site there is a secret thread where people just like fight one another and whoever talks about it gets banned."
    YashaX

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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,147
    Yeah no, the combat and animations are absolute garbage.  If you're gonna do the third-person actiony combat, do it right or don't do it at all.  I would rather play a well-done first-person only or even turn-based game than the half-assed attempts seen here and in other games.
    Some of the details the OP includes are a little embellished.

    For exanple: not all NPCs are important or even have unique dialogue as the OP submits; many are named simply "Worker," "Guard," or some other title and say much of nothing at all.

    Animation locking isn't a favorite of mine, but the combat is definitely high enough quality for an RPG.


    Elex is an "euro junk". It has some genius spark on its mechanics and intentions but oh boy it sure does need optimization and polishment.

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  • AmatheAmathe Member EpicPosts: 4,676
    edited December 2018
    After this very glowing review I went and looked at some other reviews and some video. The game has some good things, to be sure, but it's not Tom Cruise jumping around on a couch good as portrayed here.

    The combat looked bad. And there didn't seem to be that much combat. The game also can't seem to decide whether it is fantasy or sci-fi. NPC dialogue looked tedious. 

    But if you can buy it cheap, there are probably worse games.
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  • LtldoggLtldogg Member UncommonPosts: 236
    edited December 2018
    Amathe said:
    ... but it's not Tom Hanks Cruise jumping...
    Corrected.
    Amathe
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,471
    Iselin said:
    cheyane said:
    I don't mind hard games at all in fact I love it but is the combat action oriented meaning you have to time dodges and move quickly to avoid some attack or has a timed mechanic where if you do not dispense the creature or boss in time you're toast.

    I love taking time to get strong but if I cannot fight I cannot play. I can manage something like witcher 3. Anyone can give me an indication as I've wanted to buy this on GOG.

    The early part of the game forces melee on you because your ranged attacks are just too weak to prevent them closing on you and melee is kind of awkward. In the later part you'll only melee if you want to or occasionally in a building with narrow corridors.

    But the things you need to do for melee are really no harder than in the witcher; double tap a key to dodge, RMB to block and LMB to swing. There are more advanced melee attacks like strong attacks or combos but you can get away without ever using them and just dodge and LMB for melee. Ranged skills with a bow, magic or one of my favorite weapons, the grenade launcher, later on in the game destroy everything from a distance.

    You also get the jet pack quite early and it's used with the space bar. It's very useful for getting out of trouble once you get the hang of it since it does have a limited charge that takes a few seconds to recharge.
    Dodging and escaping, using the jet pack  works well and for some reason they tend to miss you more when air born.  It also allows you to get out of groups of mobs when surrounded and find spots you can defend from more quickly.  

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 8,471
    Amathe said:
    After this very glowing review I went and looked at some other reviews and some video. The game has some good things, to be sure, but it's not Tom Hanks jumping around on a couch good as portrayed here.

    The combat looked bad. And there didn't seem to be that much combat. The game also can't seem to decide whether it is fantasy or sci-fi. NPC dialogue looked tedious. 

    But if you can buy it cheap, there are probably worse games.
    The game has a lot of combat but it also has a lot of long conversations you have to do to get assigned some of the quests.  

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

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