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VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,898
I am surprised that this title hasn't got anyone interested here enough to be talking about it. It looks to me, so far from what I have read, to be pretty damn close to a westernised Archeage. I was expecting the mmorpg community to be fully on board with a MMO with it's eyes on the mainstream launch in these days where the genre is really generally only seeing small niche projects.
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  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,413
    edited December 2018
    1. They've kept it pretty quiet in regards to showing us actual content. There's some out there, but not much. Not gonna lie - I kinda love this.

    2. There's a lot of ppl who do not like the developers because of some mistakes with Ark. Personally I could care less and loved Ark. It is a game that's way ahead of its time, and can't wait to see what these devs do here.
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  • RealizerRealizer Member RarePosts: 724
    It already got delayed till the 19th. I was excited till that was posted, it seems no gaming company can figure it out these days. 
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  • rodarinrodarin Member RarePosts: 2,451
    They thought they would do the same thing as they did with ARK. When ARK came out there was zero about it. No one even heard about it. I bought it because it was cheap (at the time) and a couple people I bought owned it.

    It was OK buggy as hell but some mod guys got a hold of it and it was playable (on unofficial servers). It grew and grew and within 5-6 months it was pretty awesome. Except for the performance and optimization issues.

    Once they thought they had 'optimized' it enough to be passable Wildcard started doing what every other company does. Feature creeping (which was mostly borrowing from some of the best mods and putting it into the official game) adding reskins and calling them new dinos. Which was all well and good. But they never (and still havent AFAIK) fixed the major optimization issues.

    You had to have a pretty decent rig to run it back in the day. Still do, but it is a lot better than it was but it still has a lot of major flaws in the performance department. But I remember when guys were posting about how excited they were getting 25-30 FPS with top of the line set ups. (with graphic setting that were even halfway decent).

    And the language and excuses started in. talking about 10-20% increases in whatever they were trying to explain away. yeah 10-20% of zero is still zero. Then of course the bigger and more bloated it got the more and more the patches and updates started to get delayed.

    Adding more dinosaurs to maps that were so small to begin with was an obvious detraction and they hoped it would make people forget the other stuff.

    I was a huge ARK cheerleader until they started with the usual shit companies pull. Then when they went full %%#$@ and charged for a DLC (or was it expansion) while they were still protected by the Early Access shield set me off.


    Now that didnt make the game itself any worse or better but it surely showed how these guys operated and were willing to operate. I still havent bought it. And since then I dont think I have played more than 4-5 hours in the game. Even with all the changes. But really at this point it isnt even a 'dinosaur' game anymore. They pretty much started steering it towards the streamers and 'content creators' and catered to what they thought would make them more view able. Again not saying if that made it better or worse just something people need to be aware of. And if you think streamers and 'content creators' wont be infesting Atlas (as long as its even halfway decent) then I dont know.

    Cant help but draw the stuff Bethesda is getting right now into this somewhat. Mod makers and actual content creators (not streamers and people who pretend) help make a lot of mediocre Bethesda titles pretty awesome. If not for guys actually creating content and addons and mods for ARK I am not sure what it would have been or become. Biggest difference was ARK was online. 

    Either way a lot of differing reasons why the hype for Atlas is measured. That and the MMO genre is dead. The lack of reception for this (what looks like a potentially awesome game on the surface) pretty much proves that out as well.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 33,968
    edited December 2018
    It's from the people who brought us Ark, so I'm unimpressed / not interested.

    Probably be 2 or 3 years until playable.

    Besides, points taken off for lack of an original name, Atlas Reactor just released a few years back.
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 16,460
    Well op,we have seen many a marketing video and loads of promises and every dev says their game is sent from the heavens.

    I think most of us feel it looks great on paper,looks great in the marketing video.Neither of those two ideas make a great game,so we have to wait and see,i am definitely not throwing my money away until i see an actual game.

    Also remember that ARK was released in a terrible mess,the worst buggy game i have seen since EQ2/Vanguard.
    Now this is in a good way NOT done by the same team as ARK but the owner is the same so we might figure the owner would release a buggy mess again if need be.

    So maybe we see a testing phase where we can see more of the game.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member EpicPosts: 2,832
    I am pretty hyped, it looks and sounds frigging amazing. Most here aren’t though, this is where souls go to die  o:)

    /Cheers,
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    But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 6,492
    If you liked Ark and how they dealt with the game, then you'll probably like this game. If you didn't, well....
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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member EpicPosts: 6,869
    edited December 2018
    Yeah I'll likely play it.

    Ark itself is a successful game, and moving its engine to one MMO scale with a more linear progression and game theme, focusing on the guild development and conquest beyond what Ark could possibly achieve due to its limited player, make it one attractive option.

    They had already developed the engine a lot, it's no longer the early days of Ark anymore, but they also aren't a large dev team so having a go at one MMO scale and continuos development won't be easy.
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  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Member EpicPosts: 4,602
    Almost nothing is known about it and it is from the company that charged for an expansion while there game was still EA.  The trailer checks all the boxes for me from a feature standpoint and would love to play as a pirate but ARK was a buggy mess and we know so little about actual gameplay.

    Remember how hyped people were for Sea of Thieves until they played it?  I am past the point of getting jacked up over developer promises that are often sloppy in execution.  Release the game and let it be good then we might get more excited.
  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,898
    Kyleran said:
    It's from the people who brought us Ark, so I'm unimpressed / not interested.

    Probably be 2 or 3 years until playable.


    Half the team are Ark developers, this I know, but are the project managers/ CEOs the same ones that handled Ark?

    They say 2 years in early access, so that sounds reasonable. It sounds like they are being upfront and open about it as well.
  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,898


    Remember how hyped people were for Sea of Thieves until they played it?  I am past the point of getting jacked up over developer promises that are often sloppy in execution.  Release the game and let it be good then we might get more excited.

    Your approach these days is to literally not talk about or show interest in any game until it is on the market?

    Yikes, the industry has ruined us all past what even I thought. I kind of miss the old days.


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  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Member EpicPosts: 4,602
    Vesavius said:


    Remember how hyped people were for Sea of Thieves until they played it?  I am past the point of getting jacked up over developer promises that are often sloppy in execution.  Release the game and let it be good then we might get more excited.

    Your approach these days is to literally not talk about or show interest in any game until it is on the market?

    Yikes, the industry has ruined us all past what even I thought. I kind of miss the old days.


    If you have something to show then I will talk about and take notice.  Dual Universe is an example of a game where they have shown a lot of gameplay even in pre alpha and I am very interested but until they showed it, yes I was suspicious.  Atlas appeared out of nowhere with a trailer and alot of promises like many other games have made to be the ultimate utopia of gaming.  

    MMOs have become little more than a cash grab genre at this point and you should always be suspicious of anything sight unseen.
  • LinifLinif Member UncommonPosts: 136
    If the price is almost AAA for Early Access, I'm going with a hard pass until it's released. I've been progressively soured by the practices of some companies charging practically full price for "Early Access", when it's basically paying them to test their game.

    And yes, I know that's basically the deal, but I guess I'm more annoyed at myself than the companies.  :|
  • XAleX360XAleX360 Member UncommonPosts: 493
    Linif said:
    If the price is almost AAA for Early Access, I'm going with a hard pass until it's released. I've been progressively soured by the practices of some companies charging practically full price for "Early Access", when it's basically paying them to test their game.

    And yes, I know that's basically the deal, but I guess I'm more annoyed at myself than the companies.  :|
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    The game has a lot of potential and the possibility that at some future time it might support thousands of players is interesting, at the moment though, i doubt it is worth buying as i would be very surprised if even half the advertised features are 'workable', chances are it will be years before the game is anything like as 'advertised'  :/
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  • LokeroLokero Member RarePosts: 1,514
    Honestly, the game reminds me of a pirate-themed version of the game CoE wants to develop.

    Characters dying of old age, government/land control/taxation, and so on.

    As someone who likes the pirate theme, anyhow, I think it sounds pretty cool.  But, I am doubting half the features will even be in when it launches.

    My knowledge of the game comes from the PCGamer article.  They went pretty in-depth on the features/game design.  I haven't seen much else about it, really.
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,483
    edited December 2018
    I said elsewhere: Atlas is billed as a bigger and better Ark.  If they've managed to achieve solid optimization of Atlas, I don't see how Ark could suffer from such issues being a game that's relatively smaller in scope.

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  • LinifLinif Member UncommonPosts: 136
    XAleX360 said:
    Linif said:
    If the price is almost AAA for Early Access, I'm going with a hard pass until it's released. I've been progressively soured by the practices of some companies charging practically full price for "Early Access", when it's basically paying them to test their game.

    And yes, I know that's basically the deal, but I guess I'm more annoyed at myself than the companies.  :|
    Price is 30 dollars.
    Thanks for that. Though, where did you pull that information from? I can't see anything on the steam page or the Early Access blurb?
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,663
    mcrippins said:
    1. They've kept it pretty quiet in regards to showing us actual content. There's some out there, but not much. Not gonna lie - I kinda love this.

    2. There's a lot of ppl who do not like the developers because of some mistakes with Ark. Personally I could care less and loved Ark. It is a game that's way ahead of its time, and can't wait to see what these devs do here.
    I think that nails it. The studio has made some mistakes with ARK so it make sense people are a little cautious.

    They've also made a big concurrency claim and we've all seen how those have all turned out over the years. The biggest piece of information I've heard that tempers my expectations is how the game maps will be grid based with their ability to limit players based on concurrency within that grid. There is a lot of wiggle room for what that means. It could be great or it could be smoke and mirrors.

    Hardware and physics still limit how well massive concurrency works. All games still employ some sort of concurrency limiter or culling in order to not freeze up and turn into a slide show like early games did. How this team plans on handling that concurrency and culling are still largely unknown.

    TL;DR - It's wise to keep expectations in check until we get more solid info. I can get a lot more excited about Obsidian's The Outer World because they've shown gameplay and screenshots. This game is a week away and I've seen nothing of substance. That's why.
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  • Sal1Sal1 Member UncommonPosts: 333
    I am not hyped because it's an open world PVP game. I hate those. So I won't be playing this title.
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  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Member EpicPosts: 4,602
    Sal1 said:
    I am not hyped because it's an open world PVP game. I hate those. So I won't be playing this title.
    The advertised world is so large that odds are that pvp can be avoided for the most part.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,070
    Sal1 said:
    I am not hyped because it's an open world PVP game. I hate those. So I won't be playing this title.
    The advertised world is so large that odds are that pvp can be avoided for the most part.
    That's not really fair. I think people who don't want pvp just don't want pvp.

    There are going to be squads of people who will make it their game play experience to scour the world for those who just want to go about their business.

    What we need to have are people who don't like pvp "not" playing games with pvp.
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  • parrotpholkparrotpholk Member EpicPosts: 4,602
    Sovrath said:
    Sal1 said:
    I am not hyped because it's an open world PVP game. I hate those. So I won't be playing this title.
    The advertised world is so large that odds are that pvp can be avoided for the most part.
    That's not really fair. I think people who don't want pvp just don't want pvp.

    There are going to be squads of people who will make it their game play experience to scour the world for those who just want to go about their business.

    What we need to have are people who don't like pvp "not" playing games with pvp.
    Although I do agree, unfortunately they made the world so large that just the pvp crowd will make it feel as empty as darkfall.  People of all types will be needed to make this thing successful.  

    I think they overestimated the MMO FFA PVP base.
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  • ElidienElidien Member RarePosts: 1,385
    Cautiously optimistic. As soon as I see reviews of the EA, I will feel better. Ark burnt me for a long time and I am not doing that again.

    If and thats a big IF, they can do what they say and make good on their promises, it has potential to be amazing. IF.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 16,460
    Don't get duped into those early access crap,they only use that scheme to get away from refunds for selling us crap.This is the scheme developers are using,if we could only get them to spend as much effort on their games as they do with their lawyers,just imagine how great games would be.

    The best way to stop this crap is NOBODY buys into early access,they will be FORCED to get the game in order or go broke but sadly tons of whales out there waiting to throw away their money.
    Why is it that so many people simply can't sit still and WAIT,were they the kids that would fidget all through church?

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