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What kind of MMORPG graphic do you prefer?

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  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 6,084
    Don't care about graphics that much, as long as the art is sound. Though I'm not that keen on WoW style tbh. I prefer something more realistic, perhaps something like Vermintide.
  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337
    Gorwe said:
    Don't care about graphics that much, as long as the art is sound. Though I'm not that keen on WoW style tbh. I prefer something more realistic, perhaps something like Vermintide.
    So 1st person ESO. Is there any other mmorpg with 1st person and decent graphics?
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  • d_20d_20 Member RarePosts: 1,878
    edited December 2018
    Cartoon. It ages way better: WoW, Wildstar, Albion, Fortnite, Civ 6, Dauntless, that sort of thing. Still WoW is the best and a WoW 2 would be awesome. I don't like when the landscape is a painting. If you see it, you should be able to get to it somehow. That's the best part of Azeroth. 

    The worst graphics for me are like EQ2 -- you can see horribly that aged. I don't like figures that look shiny, like plastic or clay.  

    ART STYLE is king for me, too.
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  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 6,084
    edited December 2018
    Xasapis said:
    Gorwe said:
    Don't care about graphics that much, as long as the art is sound. Though I'm not that keen on WoW style tbh. I prefer something more realistic, perhaps something like Vermintide.
    So 1st person ESO. Is there any other mmorpg with 1st person and decent graphics?
    ESO is such a beautiful game. It's just not that fun to me. It shares this trait with Magic imo.
    Post edited by Gorwe on
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  • AnthurAnthur Member UncommonPosts: 959
    2D or even 2,5D graphics don't do it for me. We are not in 1999 anymore. ;)
    Beside that I don't care much for graphics. I must like the art style (e.g. I don't like WoW art style and prefer EQ2').
    I also don't like it when graphics get too realistic. We are not there yet but we are getting close to graphics which look like reality. Don't really want to see how someone gets beheaded in reality.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 16,434
    Know why it should matter?
    Graphics are the very core of a VIDEO game,they help to bring the world to life render objects to look believable/real.
    Graphics is basically 90% of a game,without them ,you have the engine and empty artwork.If i wasn't so lazy i would load up a simple map and show you what it looks like without the FACE.

    IF anyone says graphics don't matter,they are either completely ignorant of graphics or are lying.


    yeah i said i was lazy so this is someone else's video.Skip to 40 seconds and you'll see what a blank map and a character looks like with no textures/face,it is NOT what anyone would accept for gaming.
    Graphics matter 100%.
    What i feel the OP is actually eluding too is level of detail.This also matters to me because lack of detail does a WORSE job of bringing the visual to life. There are of course several levels of detail,i feel most accept them somewhere in between.I doubt there is a single person that needs 10/10 graphics,well perfect could never be achieved anyhow.

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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,045
    edited December 2018
    Anthur said:
    2D or even 2,5D graphics don't do it for me. We are not in 1999 anymore. ;)
    That's the only reason I'm unable to play Ultima Online anymore. I just can't get immersed in that kind of graphics anymore.

    Once you've played MMORPGs with graphics like this:

    You have a very hard time going back to this:

    Post edited by Jean-Luc_Picard on
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  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,629
    Graphics need to be great...
    also cartoony graphics can be top knotch...

    but its not the graphics that are important
    most important are the annimations..

    bad annimations give me the shiveers
    and turn me off
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  • AdamantineAdamantine Member RarePosts: 4,268
    I deeply mistrust games that cost too much in development, MMO or not. You spent 500 million dollars on this game ? Well, then I'm not gonna touch that crap. Because you will want your money back and even if you sell the game 10 million times, you still need at least $50 from every player. And thats $50 pure profit, mind ! Not price in the shop.

    I also specifically strongly oppose too elaborate graphics in MMOs.

    Thats because a MMO needs LOTs of content, and it needs a HUGE gameworld. The more you have to work on graphics the less you will have left for the real content.

    Thats why I would maintain that graphics should require maybe 50% to 75% of total resources (graphics, even "cheap" graphics, are a ton of work either way) needed for development, but not more. For example, the graphics of SWTOR seemed a good choice. Not ugly, but not too overly fancy either. Great to make a lot of gameworld with a ton of story in them.

    MMOs are to be played very longterm. A game with good longterm motivation absolutely needs an excellent game core. Graphics might look great for a couple of hours, but if then you forget about them.

    Games with excellent graphics, thats what offline is for. The game only lasts a couple hours, the hardware demands are insane, sure go ahead, do that then.

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member EpicPosts: 7,031
    Well often the better the graphics the more demand it puts on teh system....If youre talking MMO, then high graphics and alot of people often equals a problem.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,015
    Anthur said:
    2D or even 2,5D graphics don't do it for me. We are not in 1999 anymore. ;)
    That's the only reason I'm unable to play Ultima Online anymore. I just can't get immersed in that kind of graphics anymore.

    Once you've played MMORPGs with graphics like this:


    Where is that first screen shot from?



  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,256
    It really depends on how the game looks altogether. If the graphics are bad but it still has some charm, then that's fine. Or even if it looks dated, that's fine too as long as it looks coherent. 

    If done correctly I think any graphical style could work, and I'm not looking for anything with ultra realism, although if they can pull it off and it is smooth, then I'm all for that too. 
  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    For me Animations > Graphics but with that said i need to feel immersed when playing a MMO and if the graphics are 2 generations behind like say Project Gorgon was i just can't get into it. Despite the fact everything else was perfect.
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  • BluelinerBlueliner Member UncommonPosts: 158
    gameplay > graphics. are graphics important? sure, but with out good gameplay it doesn't matter how pretty the game is
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  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,256
    Sovrath said:
    Anthur said:
    2D or even 2,5D graphics don't do it for me. We are not in 1999 anymore. ;)
    That's the only reason I'm unable to play Ultima Online anymore. I just can't get immersed in that kind of graphics anymore.

    Once you've played MMORPGs with graphics like this:


    Where is that first screen shot from?
    That's World of Warcraft
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,045
    Sovrath said:
    Anthur said:
    2D or even 2,5D graphics don't do it for me. We are not in 1999 anymore. ;)
    That's the only reason I'm unable to play Ultima Online anymore. I just can't get immersed in that kind of graphics anymore.

    Once you've played MMORPGs with graphics like this:


    Where is that first screen shot from?
    WoW :)
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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,045
    Blueliner said:
    gameplay > graphics. are graphics important? sure, but with out good gameplay it doesn't matter how pretty the game is
    I totally agree with that, but I'd still not play a game with isometric "2.5D" graphics like UO even if it has amazing gameplay.
    Real 3D is the minimum for me now for an immersive world.
    Note that I played countless hours of Minecraft, but I used high resolution texture patches and the game is 3D.
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  • 45074507 Member UncommonPosts: 351
    I would've voted for Nintendo graphics if the option wasn't bugged. Sure, better graphics are nice to have, but if it's between better gameplay/more content/faster development time and pretty pixels, I'll go with the former every single time.

    IMO graphics whores who choose the latter are a major factor in the decline of the genre.
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member EpicPosts: 2,822
    Blueliner said:
    gameplay > graphics. are graphics important? sure, but with out good gameplay it doesn't matter how pretty the game is
    I totally agree with that, but I'd still not play a game with isometric "2.5D" graphics like UO even if it has amazing gameplay.
    Real 3D is the minimum for me now for an immersive world.
    Note that I played countless hours of Minecraft, but I used high resolution texture patches and the game is 3D.
    Although I agree with this in general I think there is amazing art and quality in 2D hand drawn fighters like Blazblue, it just looks stunning. I also like their new 3D gone 2D style used in the new Guilty Gear games but secretly prefer the old ways. It just looks so, so good. Then again, I´ve had an obsession with 2D fighters and their looks since SSF2CE on the Genesis and my favourite console, the Saturn. So perhaps I am biased....

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    But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
  • deniterdeniter Member RarePosts: 1,344
    Wizardry said:
    Know why it should matter?
    Graphics are the very core of a VIDEO game,they help to bring the world to life render objects to look believable/real.
    Graphics is basically 90% of a game,without them ,you have the engine and empty artwork.If i wasn't so lazy i would load up a simple map and show you what it looks like without the FACE.

    IF anyone says graphics don't matter,they are either completely ignorant of graphics or are lying.


    yeah i said i was lazy so this is someone else's video.Skip to 40 seconds and you'll see what a blank map and a character looks like with no textures/face,it is NOT what anyone would accept for gaming.
    Graphics matter 100%.
    What i feel the OP is actually eluding too is level of detail.This also matters to me because lack of detail does a WORSE job of bringing the visual to life. There are of course several levels of detail,i feel most accept them somewhere in between.I doubt there is a single person that needs 10/10 graphics,well perfect could never be achieved anyhow.
    You know, the game i have spent countless of hours in has no graphics at all. It's called Nethack. Graphics can be a huge factor but it doesn't matter 100%. :)
    AlBQuirky
  • ShaighShaigh Member RarePosts: 2,007
    Performance and aesthetics matter more than high resolution photorealism.
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  • GravebladeGraveblade Member UncommonPosts: 494
    Style is more important than actual graphical quality for me, and gameplay trumps graphics.

    That said though, some old games have design choices or engine limitations of the time that are simply an annoyance by today's standards. For example some old games have TERRIBLE camera controls that are so archaic compared to games now that it is just annoying.

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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 5,406
    Blueliner said:
    gameplay > graphics. are graphics important? sure, but with out good gameplay it doesn't matter how pretty the game is
    I totally agree with that, but I'd still not play a game with isometric "2.5D" graphics like UO even if it has amazing gameplay.
    Real 3D is the minimum for me now for an immersive world.
    Note that I played countless hours of Minecraft, but I used high resolution texture patches and the game is 3D.
    I have to show my inner snobbishness... UO's graphics were why I did not play it back then. I chose EQ's 3D graphics instead. There is something about 2D (or even 2.5D) that just misses with me.

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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  • IncomparableIncomparable Member UncommonPosts: 1,112
    Graphics do matter.

    I dont play old school games.

    I would probably enjoy them, but then the criteria to enjoy them would be that much higher.

    For example I did enjoy UO, but thats also when I was new to gaming. SO for me to enjoy UO again, it would be more for the little tid bits I enjoyed and not the grind in any way. So its not UO really at that point, but just a combat system. And it would need to have players ready to pvp, or I would be not doing anything that I would want to do in UO.

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  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 2,840
    Anthur said:
    2D or even 2,5D graphics don't do it for me. We are not in 1999 anymore. ;)
     I agree.  I was fine with that back in the days of the Commodore 64 but my PC is built to maximise graphics.  I never buy games that are 2D and 2.5D because they're really just an excuse for lazy programming touted as "Retro" to the rubes.
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