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No game is or ever was more transparent than SC."
MJ: "OC is partially correct that SC probably has shared more game information than we have simply because there is definitely more for them to share since *part* of their share involves selling things (OC, notice I just said “part”). OTOH, I think we are way more communicative in terms of things like livestreaming our team at work, talking on the Forums, chat, etc. with the key people at CSE. Chris and company do a lot of scripted livestreams but we also do an unscripted Q&A almost every single week that lasts for anything from 30 to 90 minutes.
So, in my mind SC and CSE *both* share a lot of information but we do it in different ways. Where Chris is wrong though is where he says nobody else is attempting to share as much as they do. We are and I wouldn’t be surprised if others are as well but he is certainly entitled to his opinion.
As always with me, there’s plenty of room for both of us (and others) to do things the right way when it comes to sharing information. Who does it better? Who knows? Sharing (or as c_c says below, signal vs. noise) is in the eyes of the beholder.
As always, I wish SC and their Backers the best of success. I hope it proves all the haters wrong, I truly do."
And later on, when the poster became less diplomatic:
Poster guy: "I feel like CU’s success will depend on how good and responsive combat will be, and how interesting class mechanics are. Not on paper, but in reality. Sadly for you Mark, these are probably the hardest things to nail in MMO development. If combat isnt fun, people wont play the game that is all about PvP combat. And all the massive battles tech will go to waste.So no, your hardest part isnt behind, its ahead. Unless you want to tell us that brief combat example we saw is final version."
In terms of the brief combat example, heavens no and we’ve said the exact same thing to date. Just like SC has said that older videos with placeholder combat isn’t the final version for them either.
You’re absolutely spot-on though that it’s hard but if the tech isn’t there to support it, it can’t be fun. OTOH, if the tech is there to support the designers vision AND the vision is true, then the game can have the possibility of delivering on its stated vision. Same thing with SC. Chris has laid out a vision for it that no other space-based game has ever had before. If its tech can’t support the vision, then the game won’t be as successful as it could have been right?"
And finally, MJ jumped back in when poster guy made this comment during a part of the discussion where folks compared the scales of the two crowdfunded MMORPG projects:
Poster guy: "The only thing where CSE scale is unbeatable is amount of videos where devs chit chat sitting on the coach."
MJ: "OC, one quick question, just one:
How many objects can interact in a networked SC battle?
If it isn’t 750, that’s one thing our Backers can see and be a part of during our tests that they can’t do in SC.
And our record is a lot higher, 3K headless clients as well as an additional number of spell effects and other objects. "
Poster guy (continuing this line of replies): "SC didnt beat you to it, but EVE did"
MJ: "Not real-time it didn’t OC. Eve’s space-battles are large-scale but they use time dilation to accomplish them. They are the equivalent of the slideshows that Dark Age had when we had battles of 900. We don’t do that. Our battles are real-time, no time dilation, necessary.
C’mon buddy, you knew that already and you didn’t answer the question I asked you. "
So I point this out independent of the topic because we have plenty of back and forth here regarding SC and that's not the point of my quoting the poster and MJ here. Rather, if you will, focus on how MJ responds to a gamer who is at first critical, but then turns confrontational. This is what professionalism looks like. MJ didn't capitulate, but he didn't fly off the handle. As I criticized Price and others for unprofessional behavior, it's worth giving kudos to MJ for his professionalism here. That's the type of guy you want leading your company; the kind of guy you want interacting with your fans and potential customers.