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Bill Murphy - Fallout 76 May Be the Sandbox MMO We've Been Waiting For - MMORPG.com

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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,793
    BadSpock said:
    I can def see that wandering the wastes alone will become a fairly boring way to spend your time in Appalachia.

    The questing is pretty standard fair, but the world does seem very isolated and lonely due to no NPCs that aren't hostile.

    That being said, I can see this game (especially at end-game) being an absolute blast/riot when playing with a group of friends.

    Certainly some similarities there to early MMO design.
    There are NPCs that aren't hostile. 
    To add: The game has NPCs. They just aren't what you know "standing still waiting for you" kind of NPCs. Most NPCs are tied to quests or events, so they act in a dynamic way within the world.

    You'll maybe find a courier standing somewhere. Or activate a guard robot to patrol the streets while you scort him (you and other players around the are).
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  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Member EpicPosts: 2,186
    edited November 2018
    Nyctelios said:
    BadSpock said:
    I can def see that wandering the wastes alone will become a fairly boring way to spend your time in Appalachia.

    The questing is pretty standard fair, but the world does seem very isolated and lonely due to no NPCs that aren't hostile.

    That being said, I can see this game (especially at end-game) being an absolute blast/riot when playing with a group of friends.

    Certainly some similarities there to early MMO design.
    There are NPCs that aren't hostile. 
    To add: The game has NPCs. They just aren't what you know "standing still waiting for you" kind of NPCs. Most NPCs are tied to quests or events, so they act in a dynamic way within the world.

    You'll maybe find a courier standing somewhere. Or activate a guard robot to patrol the streets while you scort him (you and other players around the are).
    It's likely the fact most people are going to have a hard time relating to a bunch of robots and pieces of paper compared to human(oid) npc's. Another is it makes no sense that there's no survivors outside of the vault. Especially considering fallout shelters were a hot selling item in the 40's and 50's and this is even acknowledged in Fallout lore. But then again, Bethesda doesn't give two shits about lore as evidenced by Super Mutants existing in the game, not to mention Brotherhood of Steel and the Enclave have also been mentioned ( wonder how they're going to do Brotherhood of Steel without human NPC's, unless they plan to say fuck the lore even more and have BoS robots ).

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  • hammarushammarus Member UncommonPosts: 196
    edited November 2018
    Don't waste your time or money, its a dud. Replica of 4 with all its exploits just set to a 2 co-op/4 multi player game ((24) err... i think that is what ass they pulled the 24 out of).
    Rawiz
  • RawizRawiz Member UncommonPosts: 576
    edited November 2018
    This is no Fallout. It's a rust rip-off to get quick money. Murphy should maybe review more fortnite as Fallout is not a joke franchise.

    Any true fan of the series knows there is a proper story and a way for you, as a player, to be a part of it. This game is not about story, it's about your AP drain when you melee a ghoul. Absolute disgrace to the fallout series.

    AVOID.

    Any other Fallout game, I would be right there in it, free or not. I don't see any reason to not allow people play offline/alone - or is the fact you can encounter other players the only reason the game was made?

    The only reason you guys make stories about this game and push MMO label is your site, nothing else.
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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,793
    Rawiz said:
    This is no Fallout. It's a rust rip-off to get quick money. Murphy should maybe review more fortnite as Fallout is not a joke franchise.

    Any true fan of the series knows there is a proper story and a way for you, as a player, to be a part of it. This game is not about story, it's about your AP drain when you melee a ghoul. Absolute disgrace to the fallout series.

    AVOID.

    Any other Fallout game, I would be right there in it, free or not. I don't see any reason to not allow people play offline/alone - or is the fact you can encounter other players the only reason the game was made?

    The only reason you guys make stories about this game and push MMO label is your site, nothing else.
    Why are you WTFing informative posts.

    The game has NPCs. I just sold my items to some and got quests from another.
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  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 2,923
    Interesting discussion. 

    I liked how many people lost their shit because the first sentence said MMO. 

    I won't play the game because if I'm going to play a survival game, i'd play Conan Exiles or maybe try Ark. I'm not a fan of post-apocalyptic stuff. I only played 4 hours of FO4 before getting bored. Perhaps, I'll go back to it. Reading about Fallout 76 makes me feel like I may want to go back to FO4. 

    I also, am not a fan of non-innovative stuff. It's why I didn't care about Destiny 2, it's why I don't really play any MMO's, and why I won't play this game. 


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  • Warhawke80Warhawke80 Member UncommonPosts: 291
    edited November 2018
    Hmmm so that's why the community seems decent...the asshats aren't playing.
  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,734
    Spent about 15-20 hrs in game. Quick review from a former Bethesda fanboy.

    (I literally made a FO4 Hype Thread back in 2015 https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/441617/fallout-4-hype-thread-get-in-before-its-too-late/p1 )  :s

    First thing I will say is regardless of what you want to call this game, it feels like its still in early access. Maybe this should have been a 20$ EA game and not full price. There are so many things wrong that I don't know where to start. Cheaters are already in the game in a big way. PVP and PVE both feel empty and non satisfying. Games keeps crashing on XB1X and PC.. so right now, It really feels like a Fallout 4 Mod that's not quite finished.

    Bethesda usually releases and hopes the community fixes what they didn't fix, but not this time. This time its really up to them. They are getting exposed for being lazy and I hate to say that.

    I think at the core of it maybe there can be fun to be had..but only if you have friends and don't mind bugs. There are so many tech issues that its nearly unplayable at times. Literally. 

    I feel like Bethesda should have made this just a Co-Op game no need to do the mmo-lite thing. This would have worked in a private server situation where you can invite up to 3 other people. I hope they make some serious changes before ES6 and Starfield.  I've seen many defending arguments about the engine but when the same bugs are still in your games from years back, there is a big problem with your process. Change is needed.

    Bethesda should maybe hire fresh talent. The same people have been there for 20+ years and it shows. I hope they can Turn 76 around, I think if it had another year to work out some kinks it would be in a better place. Lets see if they pull a Ubisoft and continue to support it or just give up on it. 

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    +Great Soundtrack

    -Nothing "Just Works"
    -Everything Else
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  • VaselVasel Member UncommonPosts: 215
    This game had such potential. They had most of the art done all ready and still found a way to deliver an unpolished B+ level Indie game with a AAA price tag.
  • BizkitNLBizkitNL Member RarePosts: 2,527
    Nyctelios said:
    Rawiz said:
    This is no Fallout. It's a rust rip-off to get quick money. Murphy should maybe review more fortnite as Fallout is not a joke franchise.

    Any true fan of the series knows there is a proper story and a way for you, as a player, to be a part of it. This game is not about story, it's about your AP drain when you melee a ghoul. Absolute disgrace to the fallout series.

    AVOID.

    Any other Fallout game, I would be right there in it, free or not. I don't see any reason to not allow people play offline/alone - or is the fact you can encounter other players the only reason the game was made?

    The only reason you guys make stories about this game and push MMO label is your site, nothing else.
    Why are you WTFing informative posts.

    The game has NPCs. I just sold my items to some and got quests from another.
    For what they do in 76, they might as well have been a telephone pole.
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 17,538
    Nobody is building stuff that i have seen watching Twitch.Also the exploration part has also looked awful.
    The Apoc theme has always been used to give a reason for lack of content.

    Having to limit the world to 24 seems ridiculous,i have no reason why this is so.

    This whole Fallout idea is also laughable,remove the title and this is just a boring survival game that you could attach ANY title onto it and nobody would know the difference.

    This is a VERY cheap offering,like 6 months of work and trying to pan it off as a HQ game.

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  • Geek77Geek77 Member CommonPosts: 1
    It's bad and it is NOT "The Sandbox MMO we've been waiting for." Who is "we". This game is buggy, laggy and has a unfinished feeling. The lack of living NPCs and a mostly empty world is just lazyness and a way to save money. The bugs were excused in the singleplayer games because of the story and world building. There is no wallpaper to hide the holes this time. Game is not worth 60 dollars at all. It needs modders once again to fix things but that wont happen for at least a year and the game may not even last that long.
  • RawizRawiz Member UncommonPosts: 576
    Nyctelios said:
    Rawiz said:
    This is no Fallout. It's a rust rip-off to get quick money. Murphy should maybe review more fortnite as Fallout is not a joke franchise.

    Any true fan of the series knows there is a proper story and a way for you, as a player, to be a part of it. This game is not about story, it's about your AP drain when you melee a ghoul. Absolute disgrace to the fallout series.

    AVOID.

    Any other Fallout game, I would be right there in it, free or not. I don't see any reason to not allow people play offline/alone - or is the fact you can encounter other players the only reason the game was made?

    The only reason you guys make stories about this game and push MMO label is your site, nothing else.
    Why are you WTFing informative posts.

    The game has NPCs. I just sold my items to some and got quests from another.
    I've not WTF any post. WTF are you talking about?
  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,793
    Rawiz said:
    Nyctelios said:
    Rawiz said:
    This is no Fallout. It's a rust rip-off to get quick money. Murphy should maybe review more fortnite as Fallout is not a joke franchise.

    Any true fan of the series knows there is a proper story and a way for you, as a player, to be a part of it. This game is not about story, it's about your AP drain when you melee a ghoul. Absolute disgrace to the fallout series.

    AVOID.

    Any other Fallout game, I would be right there in it, free or not. I don't see any reason to not allow people play offline/alone - or is the fact you can encounter other players the only reason the game was made?

    The only reason you guys make stories about this game and push MMO label is your site, nothing else.
    Why are you WTFing informative posts.

    The game has NPCs. I just sold my items to some and got quests from another.
    I've not WTF any post. WTF are you talking about?
    Are you sure? Can't you see my previous comment? Under it?
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  • darkhalf357xdarkhalf357x Member UncommonPosts: 1,237

    DMKano said:

    Sandbox MMO?



    Lol no.



    It's a Fallout 4 multiplayer mod with a new larger map and some new world bosses. Sure it can be fun, but a sanbox MMO, for me - not even close.




    I've been following your posts for a few years now (don't worry Im not a stalker, just a fellow gamer :)

    I'm intrigued by the game you are looking for.

    From you perspective what games are you playing now, what games are you most interested in, and what games are you looking forward to.

    I've actually stopped playing games because I can't find anything interesting. Bill has piqued my interest in this title, but your response has me interested in yours.

    Let me know

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  • darkhalf357xdarkhalf357x Member UncommonPosts: 1,237

    Avarix said:

    I'm surprised by how many articles I see with so many positives about this game. I'm not usually overly harsh on my critique of games but this game looks awful. So much so that it should be a major blow to Bethesda's reputation.



    Could be true. But did you play it yet?

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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,072

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  • fastreanfastrean Member UncommonPosts: 3
    $99...not worth it...
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member EpicPosts: 10,577
    fastrean said:
    $99...not worth it...
    I didn't pay $99



  • AlmostLancelotAlmostLancelot Member UncommonPosts: 135
    edited November 2018
    Nilden said:

    Prime example of why Bethesda will never be taken seriously.

    Today's patch is also a joke, they hardly fixed anything and still no push to talk. The notes are pathetic to be entirely frank.
    Nilden
  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Member EpicPosts: 2,186


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  • PopplePopple Member UncommonPosts: 239
    Put your money with your mouth is Bill Murphy "Be the Sandbox MMO We've Been Waiting For". U should buy your Forum (Players) a free gift of Fallout 76... :p


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  • n3v3rriv3rn3v3rriv3r Member UncommonPosts: 496
    Metacritic 2.9 All good though you need to stay in good relationship with all the devs after all even Bethesda
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member EpicPosts: 10,577
    OG_Zorvan said:
    ..... People see what they want to see lol, those don't track digital sales, which is the majority of how FO76 is purchased.
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  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Member EpicPosts: 2,186
    Metacritic 2.9 All good though you need to stay in good relationship with all the devs after all even Bethesda
    Hey, Obsidian got fucked out of their bonuses for getting less than an 80% on metacritic. Think ol' Todd or Pete are gonna lose out on bonuses for this fiasco?


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