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  • ItstimetodealItstimetodeal Member UncommonPosts: 284
    Pretty accurate interview.


    bartoni33[Deleted User]
  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726
    edited November 2018
    I feel sorry for all the fools that bought Blizzcon tickets.  That had to watch this disaster.   I think what we are seeing is Activison imposing their will on Blizzard.   Blizzard is no longer producing quality games, they are all into any game that will pull in the money without too many development dollars.  These short sighted designs will eventually kill Blizzard.  

  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,343
    edited November 2018
    After reading that polygon piece and thinking about blizzard as a whole, I normally dont say this, but their entire PR team needs to be fired. These failed executions were easily avoidable (WoW's poor bfa reception included, which has me thinking that there might not actually be a real PR team but a bunch of higher-ups coming up with ideas while they circle jerk each other). That said, the common theme regardless the game with Blizzard is "people will get mad and then they'll understand eventually (even if they dont understand, it'll be too late for their grief to matter about it anyway since we'll have bought ourselves enough time onto the next thing that will shut them up)." Like seriously, this was so easily avoidable. They could've started off with some concept art to tell people about at least one of their MULTIPLE projects in development and then go in with Diablo Mobile. Its like they've never heard of foreplay or they've been doing this so long and they just dont care anymore as long as it gets done. SPICE IT UP BLIZZARD, DAMN.
  • ZhenoxZhenox Member UncommonPosts: 59
    edited November 2018
    Ozmodan said:
    I feel sorry for all the fools that bought Blizzcon tickets.  That had to watch this disaster.   I think what we are seeing is Activison imposing their will on Blizzard.   Blizzard is no longer producing quality games, they are all into any game that will pull in the money without too many development dollars.  These short sighted designs will eventually kill Blizzard.  

    Well actually, it all started from Celestial Mount. 

    Btw, those fools are people who support products which you probably play and you call them fools? Those are most dedicated people so have some fucking pity on those poor souls who had to endure that shit
  • ZhenoxZhenox Member UncommonPosts: 59

    the marketing campaign can easily push this into 100million+ range.

    Development involves marketing campaign. Interesting. 


    So Kano, does your line of work has something to do with mobile games by any chance? 
  • ItstimetodealItstimetodeal Member UncommonPosts: 284
    DMKano said:
    Ozmodan said:
    I feel sorry for all the fools that bought Blizzcon tickets.  That had to watch this disaster.   I think what we are seeing is Activison imposing their will on Blizzard.   Blizzard is no longer producing quality games, they are all into any game that will pull in the money without too many development dollars.  These short sighted designs will eventually kill Blizzard.  


    Oh come on - can we please stop with this myth that a top mobile game is cheap to make?

    It is not.

    the marketing campaign can easily push this into 100million+ range.

    Heck remember Game of War - those Kate Upton ads cost 40million alone.


    Well at this point the only thing that would make me pay attention to Diablo right now is an ad with her or some other model riding around on a horse.  
  • ZhenoxZhenox Member UncommonPosts: 59
    DMKano said:
    Ozmodan said:
    I feel sorry for all the fools that bought Blizzcon tickets.  That had to watch this disaster.   I think what we are seeing is Activison imposing their will on Blizzard.   Blizzard is no longer producing quality games, they are all into any game that will pull in the money without too many development dollars.  These short sighted designs will eventually kill Blizzard.  


    Oh come on - can we please stop with this myth that a top mobile game is cheap to make?

    It is not.

    the marketing campaign can easily push this into 100million+ range.

    Heck remember Game of War - those Kate Upton ads cost 40million alone.


    Well at this point the only thing that would make me pay attention to Diablo right now is an ad with her or some other model riding around on a horse.  
    Your lack of imagination is disturbing. 
  • ItstimetodealItstimetodeal Member UncommonPosts: 284
    edited November 2018
    Zhenox said:
    DMKano said:
    Ozmodan said:
    I feel sorry for all the fools that bought Blizzcon tickets.  That had to watch this disaster.   I think what we are seeing is Activison imposing their will on Blizzard.   Blizzard is no longer producing quality games, they are all into any game that will pull in the money without too many development dollars.  These short sighted designs will eventually kill Blizzard.  


    Oh come on - can we please stop with this myth that a top mobile game is cheap to make?

    It is not.

    the marketing campaign can easily push this into 100million+ range.

    Heck remember Game of War - those Kate Upton ads cost 40million alone.


    Well at this point the only thing that would make me pay attention to Diablo right now is an ad with her or some other model riding around on a horse.  
    Your lack of imagination is disturbing. 
    Piss off snowflake it was a joke.  
  • ZhenoxZhenox Member UncommonPosts: 59
    edited November 2018
    Zhenox said:
    DMKano said:
    Ozmodan said:
    I feel sorry for all the fools that bought Blizzcon tickets.  That had to watch this disaster.   I think what we are seeing is Activison imposing their will on Blizzard.   Blizzard is no longer producing quality games, they are all into any game that will pull in the money without too many development dollars.  These short sighted designs will eventually kill Blizzard.  


    Oh come on - can we please stop with this myth that a top mobile game is cheap to make?

    It is not.

    the marketing campaign can easily push this into 100million+ range.

    Heck remember Game of War - those Kate Upton ads cost 40million alone.


    Well at this point the only thing that would make me pay attention to Diablo right now is an ad with her or some other model riding around on a horse.  
    Your lack of imagination is disturbing. 
    Piss off snowflake it was a joke.  
    Snowflake? Somehow i'm left leaning in your eyes? Couldn't be further from the truth, snowflake. Don't be so butt hurt, if you're incapable of understanding banter, cause you end up looking as a snowflake yourself. 
  • ZhenoxZhenox Member UncommonPosts: 59
    Btw, just to keep some guys on track on this whole situation.

    Youtube deleted 100k dislikes from official Diablo "Immoral" trailer. 


    NycteliosAvarix
  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 2,744
    Zhenox said:
    Zhenox said:
    DMKano said:
    Ozmodan said:
    I feel sorry for all the fools that bought Blizzcon tickets.  That had to watch this disaster.   I think what we are seeing is Activison imposing their will on Blizzard.   Blizzard is no longer producing quality games, they are all into any game that will pull in the money without too many development dollars.  These short sighted designs will eventually kill Blizzard.  


    Oh come on - can we please stop with this myth that a top mobile game is cheap to make?

    It is not.

    the marketing campaign can easily push this into 100million+ range.

    Heck remember Game of War - those Kate Upton ads cost 40million alone.


    Well at this point the only thing that would make me pay attention to Diablo right now is an ad with her or some other model riding around on a horse.  
    Your lack of imagination is disturbing. 
    Piss off snowflake it was a joke.  
    Snowflake? Somehow i'm left leaning in your eyes? Couldn't be further from the truth, snowflake. Don't be so butt hurt, if you're incapable of understanding banter, cause you end up looking as a snowflake yourself. 

    Snowflake = right wing nutter, so its probably an accurate description :)
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  • ItstimetodealItstimetodeal Member UncommonPosts: 284
    Zhenox said:
    Zhenox said:
    DMKano said:
    Ozmodan said:
    I feel sorry for all the fools that bought Blizzcon tickets.  That had to watch this disaster.   I think what we are seeing is Activison imposing their will on Blizzard.   Blizzard is no longer producing quality games, they are all into any game that will pull in the money without too many development dollars.  These short sighted designs will eventually kill Blizzard.  


    Oh come on - can we please stop with this myth that a top mobile game is cheap to make?

    It is not.

    the marketing campaign can easily push this into 100million+ range.

    Heck remember Game of War - those Kate Upton ads cost 40million alone.


    Well at this point the only thing that would make me pay attention to Diablo right now is an ad with her or some other model riding around on a horse.  
    Your lack of imagination is disturbing. 
    Piss off snowflake it was a joke.  
    Snowflake? Somehow i'm left leaning in your eyes? Couldn't be further from the truth, snowflake. Don't be so butt hurt, if you're incapable of understanding banter, cause you end up looking as a snowflake yourself. 
    Now you are all triggered.  Just let it go it was a joke.  I believe on the Fist Amendment and boobs.  So an ad with either one I'll watch ok. 
    MrMelGibson
  • LuidenLuiden Member UncommonPosts: 276
    Blizzard reminds me of Metallica, they were the best of the best but then sold out, telling their fans to go f themselves.

    There biggest problem is that for all the billions they are raking in they haven't done anything innovative in a long.. long time.  In fact it's been 20 to 25 years since they have released a new interesting IP.  The sad fact is as a gaming company they are washed up and in time the idiot fans who continue to follow them will figure it out.  Kind of like the current Metallica fans who ran around and act like they are the heaviest band around.. when in fact there are nothing more than a in-between pop/rock band.
  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
      I believe on the Fist Amendment and boobs. 
    I've seen that porn movie. The Pink Sock scene was intense!

    On Topic: Can't be surprised that Blizz did this. They are in it for the money. Never forget that.
    MrMelGibson

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  • kjempffkjempff Member RarePosts: 1,657
    edited November 2018
    Well should they actually make mobile games ?
    It is like a Michelin star restaurant selling bad fastfood at the back entrance.
    Let someone else make those games ... create a sub-studio to develop for mobile ... it is not really right to mix it.
  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,823
    Soki123 said:
    I honestly don't think Diablo fans were the target audience for the mobile game.  Not sure why they announced it at Blizzcon.  They must have known there would be backlash.  They were already in hot water with BFA and now the temp on that water is at boiling.

    BFA is fine lol, vocal minority is just blabbing away. WoW s doing fine.
    You could not be more wrong.

    Do you live in mars or something?

    BFA is going downhill full speed. People hope 8.2 fixes it. Even major supporters (youtubers, twitch streamers and so on) are like "this is shit". The good thing BFA is doing is making people want to play Classic and that's it.

    Oh yes, the lore is quite nice actually.
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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,823
    I arrived from work just now and I tried to fin the comment on youtube that I saw earlier to screenshot and paste here to you guys but I'm not finding it anywhere. So, I'll just type it here, and I take no credit, sadly I don't remeber the user name of the legendary person who was clever enough to create it, but I think it illustrates perfectly what is happening. He said:

    "Hey, Blizzard! Cover yourself! You are showing yours Activision!"
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    Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn - Shadowbringers; Genshin Impact

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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,823
    And to add as someone posted above. I don't know how nor why. But yeah, they are "removing" dislikes from the dislike bar somehow. Maybe bots went and made a mess and youtube was contacted... Who knows?
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  • AvarixAvarix Member RarePosts: 665
    Zhenox said:
    Btw, just to keep some guys on track on this whole situation.

    Youtube deleted 100k dislikes from official Diablo "Immoral" trailer. 


    Glad someone is talking about this. I seen a video on the Diablo stuff earlier today and in the video he showed how the trailer had 261k dislikes. When I looked at the video it was barely above 200k. Not sure if it's intentional but it's the more interesting story to me at this point. 
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  • NycteliosNyctelios Member EpicPosts: 3,823
    I would love TB take on this. I miss him so much.
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  • AvarixAvarix Member RarePosts: 665


    5:35 he shows 260k dislikes. Other videos with footage of higher numbers on YouTube but I am on mobile and going back and forth isn't the easiest.
  • ceratop001ceratop001 Member RarePosts: 1,594
    Nice Video SedrynTyros. Love how he got booed and tried to justify it.
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  • BeyornBeyorn Member UncommonPosts: 345
    edited November 2018

    Ok, Ok, Ok I won’t start cutting myself…….but drinking bleach is still on the table Blizzard….Don’t make me do it!!

    Also I has a phone ;P






  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    Nilden said:
    klash2def said:
    I will never understand why people get so upset because their favorite game company made something that's not for them. Its the same thing to me as getting upset because Marvel is making toys aimed at 10 year olds instead of a film. 

    It not like Blizzard is never going to make another Diablo, and even if they didn't, you can still play the other Diablo games or products by blizzard. Hell there are thousands of games to play not named Diablo. 

    I find it hard to be upset because some new thing isn't made with me in mind. I'm not even trying to defend blizzard, I personally dont care for diablo that much but its just nuts seeing people get so upset over this new game because they feel like it wasn't for them. I really dislike gamer entitlement, and the sooner we move past it the better quality content we will get. Devs already have enough pressure as is. Some reactions are just not necessary. 

    Btw there is a huge market for Mobile gaming so Blizzard did nothing wrong b trying to throw a real contender in that market. Even Bethesda has a big Mobile game coming. Mobile is part of the future of gaming. 
    Mobile gaming is a plague.



    That's a pretty insightful video and makes some really good points on how the mobile market seems to be viewed by the industry, which is completely out of touch with reality (well, at least here in the west).

    Playing Words with Friends on your phone doesn't mean you enjoy or like "video games" in the traditional sense.  Interesting comparison between Steam and the mobile app stores, too.  I think we've all noticed the explosion of Early Access/Throw-away titles on Steam.

    I don't see it as sustainable for PC or console markets.  Industry devs really shouldn't consider the markets to be highly overlapping with mobile.
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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member EpicPosts: 10,710
    I'm just going to throw this out there, that there are very popular ARPG games on mobile devices. I've played a few.. and several of them are top grossing on both iOS and Android platforms.  

    That being said, I'm not a huge diablo fan. I played diablo 3 for a bit, got the gist of it, but the franchise doesn't entice me to play this on mobile.

    The reality of the situation is, Blizzard has followed their gameplan of taking something that's already on the market in the industry and trying to migrate it to a somewhat more polished version of it.  

    Clearly, it's not built for core gamers.  I don't know a lot about the game, but we'll know pretty quickly who this was built for simply by the mechanics they utilize. For example, most ARPG games for mobile have auto play features.  Most games are very simplistic when it comes to those autoplay features to, with a few exceptions.  If we see that up front, it'll be pretty clear this is going to be a game created just to cash in on the IP and not really push the envelope in the mobile space.



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