Star Citizen FOIP - Space Shopping

MaxBacon

I DIED at the 5:35 just watch it 

This was brilliant. FOIP FTW  

Babuinix

  

MaxBacon

Yup, but the first one has a very good mouth tracking, the 2nd was very random, likely he has a better webcam or better-lit place.

Will be interesting to see what the dedicated optimized webcam hardware Faceware is to launch will allow.

NorseGod

This feature alone saved the game. Can I talk to players next to me by using FOIP?

MaxBacon

This on the PTU is some bits on calling another player (works from mobiglas UI and ship UI), at the moment it streams the player location into your UI what is quite cool, VOIP and FOIP are being added to this cooms as well:

NorseGod said:

This feature alone saved the game. Can I talk to players next to me by using FOIP?

VOIP on the current build, FOIP not yet.

NorseGod

MaxBacon said:

NorseGod said:

This feature alone saved the game. Can I talk to players next to me by using FOIP?

VOIP on the current build, 

Oh neat! Is it working?

MaxBacon

It seems the proximity is not (is bug as patch notes state it's in), and the other is within your party.
 
also lol this https://clips.twitch.tv/ColorfulColorfulJackalDerp the thing is the FOIP trying to vibrate the lips and such too haha

Babuinix

MaxBacon

lol this is another type of comm call: https://clips.twitch.tv/FairCallousTitanNotLikeThis

Camera misaligned much, or maybe intentional? Oh no the erotic roleplayers  

Babuinix

Don't do Widow:

This is now the official FoIP shenanigans thread.

Hope you don't mind Max

hfztt

This sure as hell does not improve on that Uncanny Valley feel the character work in this game has. But it is a riot to look at.

GG

MaxBacon

hfztt said:

This sure as hell does not improve on that Uncanny Valley feel the character work in this game has. But it is a riot to look at.

GG

Facial models with auto-mouth animation by mic sound are also uncanny. And full static facial with no animation uncanny it is. So this at least translates into animation, but how good it feels depends on how good your usage of it is.

Things like streamers, content creators and roleplayers likely the ones making the most serious use of it, the rest what is most important is just VOIP, at once I can talk with someone in front of me instead of trying to get them to open text chat lol

MaxBacon

On FOIP related news, Faceware is moving to the final stages of production for the webcam hardware optimized for this feature:

http://facewaretech.com/motionsensor/

hmmm made to be effective on dark rooms, that ftw

NorseGod

MaxBacon said:

On FOIP related news, Faceware is moving to the final stages of production for the webcam hardware optimized for this feature:

http://facewaretech.com/motionsensor/

hmmm made to be effective on dark rooms, that ftw

When do they start selling our biometrics to the government?

Babuinix

Face Over IP/ FOIP Tutorial [Star Citizen 3.3 PTU]

MadFrenchie

MaxBacon said:

hfztt said:

This sure as hell does not improve on that Uncanny Valley feel the character work in this game has. But it is a riot to look at.

GG

Facial models with auto-mouth animation by mic sound are also uncanny. And full static facial with no animation uncanny it is. So this at least translates into animation, but how good it feels depends on how good your usage of it is.

Things like streamers, content creators and roleplayers likely the ones making the most serious use of it, the rest what is most important is just VOIP, at once I can talk with someone in front of me instead of trying to get them to open text chat lol

Proximity voice chat has been a thing for a while in genres like survival.  The majority of player usage I've experienced with it has been to troll other players.

Maybe SC will be different, but I'll have to see the player buy in before I'll believe SC will be different in that respect.

SpottyGekko

MadFrenchie said:

MaxBacon said:

hfztt said:

This sure as hell does not improve on that Uncanny Valley feel the character work in this game has. But it is a riot to look at.

GG

Facial models with auto-mouth animation by mic sound are also uncanny. And full static facial with no animation uncanny it is. So this at least translates into animation, but how good it feels depends on how good your usage of it is.

Things like streamers, content creators and roleplayers likely the ones making the most serious use of it, the rest what is most important is just VOIP, at once I can talk with someone in front of me instead of trying to get them to open text chat lol

Proximity voice chat has been a thing for a while in genres like survival.  The majority of player usage I've experienced with it has been to troll other players.

Maybe SC will be different, but I'll have to see the player buy in before I'll believe SC will be different in that respect.

In "open-world" settings I'd agree with the trolling concerns, but in "closed" environments like multi-crew ships or guild bases I'd imagine the proximity chat will be very useful.

MadFrenchie

SpottyGekko said:

MadFrenchie said:

MaxBacon said:

hfztt said:

This sure as hell does not improve on that Uncanny Valley feel the character work in this game has. But it is a riot to look at.

GG

Facial models with auto-mouth animation by mic sound are also uncanny. And full static facial with no animation uncanny it is. So this at least translates into animation, but how good it feels depends on how good your usage of it is.

Things like streamers, content creators and roleplayers likely the ones making the most serious use of it, the rest what is most important is just VOIP, at once I can talk with someone in front of me instead of trying to get them to open text chat lol

Proximity voice chat has been a thing for a while in genres like survival.  The majority of player usage I've experienced with it has been to troll other players.

Maybe SC will be different, but I'll have to see the player buy in before I'll believe SC will be different in that respect.

In "open-world" settings I'd agree with the trolling concerns, but in "closed" environments like multi-crew ships or guild bases I'd imagine the proximity chat will be very useful.

I would agree if Discord wasn't already a thing.  Being able to talk with everyone on your crew without running the length of your ship just to get within proximity chat range of the engineer is a huge advantage.

In short, proximity chat came into the game too late and doesn't offer enough of an incentive to use it over something like Discord.  Players have already found third party tools they would prefer that give them more control over who within their group and game they can communicate with (and who they have to hear over voice chat) at any given time.

MaxBacon

MadFrenchie said:

Proximity voice chat has been a thing for a while in genres like survival.  The majority of player usage I've experienced with it has been to troll other players.

Maybe SC will be different, but I'll have to see the player buy in before I'll believe SC will be different in that respect.

Oh trolls are trolls, SC has a quick interaction mode > Select Player > Mute, this is the "Shut your face" saying to a whole other level  

But SC needs proximity VOIP, and the ship hailing VOIP too, I find it very old school to contact people in front of you via a text chat.

Erillion

I prefer third party communication tools. Not in game VOIP.

EVE Online and other games teach you harsh lessons on lack of communication in critical moments when games lock up due to server (over)load or crash to desktop (and the in game VOIP crashes with it). Especially when this happens to (fleet and wing) commanders and (squadron) leaders.

Have fun

Octagon7711

If I'm in a small space with ten or twenty people talking loud at the same time it gets hard for me to focus on one person ingame.  I'm for third party programs or even plain old dedicated chat friend channels.

MaxBacon

I'm not, SC already is a game where you struggle to contact another player and they usually don't pay attention to the game text chat.

Hailing a ship in front of you, or talking to a player in front of you is most important in SC; you will not have a 3rd party program to go to when you meet up random players in-game.

This is most important in situations where you want to make yourself known as not being a threat to the other player, so VOIP is needed in places a 3rd party program with friends and such is irrelevant.

MadFrenchie

Babuinix said:

  

He should definitely get someone to exorcise that demon skull trying to burst out of his neck:

Babuinix

Citizen Bowie - Space Oddity (FOIP) 

Babuinix

FOIP : How To

Don't

Arglebargle

MaxBacon said:

I'm not, SC already is a game where you struggle to contact another player and they usually don't pay attention to the game text chat.

Hailing a ship in front of you, or talking to a player in front of you is most important in SC; you will not have a 3rd party program to go to when you meet up random players in-game.

This is most important in situations where you want to make yourself known as not being a threat to the other player, so VOIP is needed in places a 3rd party program with friends and such is irrelevant.

That's a pretty good argument there.   The dischord or other 3rd party channels then operate as the meta for tight beam, encrypted, private communications that can't easily be listened on.  As long as you don't have a mole.