CoE abandons "VoxElyria"

Slapshot1188

Kyleran said:

I'd say hold off on map voting thread until dates and details are published.  (Unless they already are?)

Depends on your definition of published

You mean on the official forums?
You mean in Discord?
You mean the super secret high donor forums?

There are different layers of info available depending on your level of access.
Here is the info from the Dev Journal:

World Generation is no small task, and is something we've been working on continuously for the better part of the project. But with pre-Alpha once again visible in the distance, and Map Voting and Domain & Settlement Selection rapidly approaching, our need to procedurally create the continents, settlements, buildings, and points of interest has never been higher. So in Release 0.5.0 myself, Souzou, and Raevantiel will be finishing a significant portion of the procedural world-building mechanics in preparation for the launch of Map Voting.

And when is Map Voting, you may ask? Well, as promised in the Release 0.4.0 completion blog, the release of Map Voting is just around the corner. While the news and announcement post containing the final rules and information on the map voting process will be published a few days ahead of it on the 18th, Map Voting itself will begin the 22nd... of October. So, you know, soon™.

But elsewhere Caspien has stated that:

Caspian09/29/2018

OK. RE: Map voting. Official rules will be posted when it's ready. That said, we've locked in the rules, etc. and are very happy with where it is now, as it's simple, straight forward, and logical. 1. Your votes are weighted by influence, divided by your total number of votes. So if you vote once, it's worth 100% of your influence. If you vote twice, each vote is worth 50%, etc. The more you vote, the less each vote is worth. 2. Voting will be done in a couple rounds. Round 1 will be all the servers except OCE voting on a pool of 20 maps to determine which 5 maps will be voted on for their server. 3. Round two will be all servers, and will be for each server to decide which map they want of the 5 available. That's it. Simple. At the end of Round 2, each server will know which map will be theirs. Note that round 1 is open results. So you'll be able to see how each map is fairing on each server. Round 2 is closed results, and the results of the vote won't be shown until the round ends. As for people who received a package during searing plague but have no influence, you can vote, but if you truly have 0 influence the vote won't count for much, if anything. Sorry, but that's the way it is. You get to play the game, and have all the benefits of being able to play, but with no influence, your vote doesn't count for much.

Caspian09/29/2018

There's plenty of questions that can arise from what I just said, but in all cases, the answer should be what you expect. For example: Q. Doesn't that mean people with 10,000 influence are weighted 10x as much as someone with just 1,000 influence? A. Yes.

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So I'd say there is enough info released to start a fairly robust conversation

bcbully

Idk you guys know me, but I think this one is going to surprise the detractors.

Slapshot1188

bcbully said:

Idk you guys know me, but I think this one is going to surprise the detractors.

In what way?  The game or the Map Selection?
I’ve got 2 free accounts now so I hope it surprises me and turns out to be great!

bcbully

Slapshot1188 said:

bcbully said:

Idk you guys know me, but I think this one is going to surprise the detractors.

In what way?  The game or the Map Selection?
I’ve got 2 free accounts now so I hope it surprises me and turns out to be great!

Slap you've done more for the game than most, differently than most too lol. 

I'm talking about the game in general. Continue to hold them accountable!

MadFrenchie

ConstantineMerus said:

Gdemami said:

Torrsk said:
But it really can't be worse. 

It is very much the same, just opposite side of the spectrum: OMFG these devs are the worst idiots ever!!!

Echo chamber of armchair developers...proof is in the pudding, this very thread - sheer ignorance and lack of any critical thinking.

It just likely resonates better with you(some) but bottom line remains the same.

Do provide a counter argument. I am asking sincerely. Because the story is about someone promising X and not delivering it. Yeah maybe predicting such outcome without the science and the full extent knowledge of the project might sound silly. But it already has happened. So I'm not sure what your observation is about. 

We're bunch of gamers talking about games on a gaming forum. Besides some rare cases, no one has claimed otherwise. If you've noticed someone is wrong about something then it is up to you to correct them or not. 

I mean a couple of weeks ago you and I were kinda in the same boat regarding lootboxes and governments and slap was on the other side. I fail to see the echo chamber on these forums besides this thread. There's not much left to say about CoE at least at this stage. And again, if you believe otherwise do tell by all means. 'You're all wrong because you all agree on this subject' is not an argument. 

Don't bother with Gdemami, all of us who have been here a while (you included, so shame for taking his bait!) know he has no original idea to offer other than "you're all wrong, and so wrong I can't even tell you why you're wrong!"

It's his thing.

Kyleran

MadFrenchie said:

ConstantineMerus said:

Gdemami said:

Torrsk said:
But it really can't be worse. 

It is very much the same, just opposite side of the spectrum: OMFG these devs are the worst idiots ever!!!

Echo chamber of armchair developers...proof is in the pudding, this very thread - sheer ignorance and lack of any critical thinking.

It just likely resonates better with you(some) but bottom line remains the same.

Do provide a counter argument. I am asking sincerely. Because the story is about someone promising X and not delivering it. Yeah maybe predicting such outcome without the science and the full extent knowledge of the project might sound silly. But it already has happened. So I'm not sure what your observation is about. 

We're bunch of gamers talking about games on a gaming forum. Besides some rare cases, no one has claimed otherwise. If you've noticed someone is wrong about something then it is up to you to correct them or not. 

I mean a couple of weeks ago you and I were kinda in the same boat regarding lootboxes and governments and slap was on the other side. I fail to see the echo chamber on these forums besides this thread. There's not much left to say about CoE at least at this stage. And again, if you believe otherwise do tell by all means. 'You're all wrong because you all agree on this subject' is not an argument. 

Don't bother with Gdemami, all of us who have been here a while (you included, so shame for taking his bait!) know he has no original idea to offer other than "you're all wrong, and so wrong I can't even tell you why you're wrong!"

It's his thing.

Heck, he can't even tell you what games he plays, enjoys etc, though I think he slipped once and let on he might be a WOW fan.

Linif

When I started researching CoE as a potential game to play, I came across MMORPG's threads and the discussions of Caspien and his crew. From then on, I've been waiting for this day.

I'm getting some disturbing satisfaction out of this. The arrogance and disrespect for customers is beginning to widen the cracks. My friend who has been a (apparently) long-standing fan and backer of this is now questioning if his faith was misplaced.

I cannot wait for the blame to be directed to "all the naysayers". Oh god please, let them blame external factors.

Dakeru

Linif said:

I cannot wait for the blame to be directed to "all the naysayers". 

Too late
They kept warning about the Harbingers, implying that people who raise concerns are a threat to the development.
Slapshot then proudly took the title of a Harbinger out mischievious irony and some of us followed his example.

 After all the mmorpg community is a mischievious bunch.

Kyleran

Dakeru said:

Linif said:

I cannot wait for the blame to be directed to "all the naysayers". 

Too late
They kept warning about the Harbingers, implying that people who raise concerns are a threat to the development.
Slapshot then proudly took the title of a Harbinger out mischievious irony and some of us followed his example.

 After all the mmorpg community is a mischievious bunch.

While I actually want to see COE made should it fail I'll be happy to shoulder part of the blame if Caspian's aren't broad enough.