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Dragon's Dogma

GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 6,093
I've just been greatly disappointed by that game. It feels like some ultra cheap f2p 2010-ish f2p MMO. Sure, the combat can be good and...meh, the game sucks. The worst thing's that it's boring. A boring entertainment product...something went terribly wrong lol.

What are your impressions of Dragon's Dogma? 
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  • BananableBananable Member UncommonPosts: 194
    Lolz. Good morning! Do you know how old this game is? Im assuming you are talking about SP game,  not online one.

    Personally i liked game mechanics (especially the lamp). But the story pissed me off. It so stupid.


    But to answer why its so bad: first of all SP games (SP Devs and publishers) praised so much. Second apparently because asian gamers never heard about (western) quality, so they still getting mediocre, old, low quality products overpriced three times.

    Hail the console!!!!  :P

    P.S. Detroit become human (another asian amzing game ) is hilarious. 
    Mother: Son, help me clean the house.
    Kid: Ugh, its boring. I really wanna play my new game.
    Mother: What is it about?
    Kid: (very excited) Im android...and i have to clean the house!

    >.>
  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 3,842
    "It feels like some ultra cheap f2p 2010-ish f2p MMO. Sure, the combat can be good and...meh, the game sucks."

    He is talking about the mmo version. Thanks Gorwe I was just wondering what was happening with this game, you saved me the trouble of looking into it more.
  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 6,093
    Asheram said:
    "It feels like some ultra cheap f2p 2010-ish f2p MMO. Sure, the combat can be good and...meh, the game sucks."

    He is talking about the mmo version. Thanks Gorwe I was just wondering what was happening with this game, you saved me the trouble of looking into it more.
    I was actually talking about Dark Arisen. See how easy it is to mix them up? It's literally overflowing with "escort / kill n of x" quests, has a huge, meaningless open world, you need to grind mobs...you tell me whether that sounds like an MMO or not. The only thing missing is the multiplayer aspect, but I guess that's why the Pawns are there.
  • kikoodutroa8kikoodutroa8 Member RarePosts: 558
    Game has good immersion as the pawns are better roleplayers than anyone I've ever met in a mmo.
    Gameplay was ok, lot of running back & forth though.
    TorvalYashaXNycteliosMrMelGibson
  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 3,842
    Gorwe said:
    Asheram said:
    "It feels like some ultra cheap f2p 2010-ish f2p MMO. Sure, the combat can be good and...meh, the game sucks."

    He is talking about the mmo version. Thanks Gorwe I was just wondering what was happening with this game, you saved me the trouble of looking into it more.
    I was actually talking about Dark Arisen. See how easy it is to mix them up? It's literally overflowing with "escort / kill n of x" quests, has a huge, meaningless open world, you need to grind mobs...you tell me whether that sounds like an MMO or not. The only thing missing is the multiplayer aspect, but I guess that's why the Pawns are there.
    Oh ok sry, you didnt really distinguish between the sp game and the mmo so when you said it played like a bad f2p mmo I assumed you was refering to Dragons Dogma Online my bad.
    Phry
  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 6,093
    Game has good immersion as the pawns are better roleplayers than anyone I've ever met in a mmo.
    Gameplay was ok, lot of running back & forth though.
    How about the story and the general immersion? Sure, the pawns are like masters of ye olde English, but they are also rather mechanical, wouldn't you say?
  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 2,411
    I think its one of the best rpgs ever made, not sure how you could claim otherwise. I can only assume you have absolutely no sense or appreciation for a good rpg.
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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 2,690
    YashaX said:
    I think its one of the best rpgs ever made, not sure how you could claim otherwise. I can only assume you have absolutely no sense or appreciation for a good rpg.
    To be honest I was a bit shocked to find this thread but knowing @Gorwe I have to say maybe he was having a bad day and hasn't given the game a fair chance yet! :)
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  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 6,093
    YashaX said:
    I think its one of the best rpgs ever made, not sure how you could claim otherwise. I can only assume you have absolutely no sense or appreciation for a good rpg.
    To be honest I was a bit shocked to find this thread but knowing @Gorwe I have to say maybe he was having a bad day and hasn't given the game a fair chance yet! :)
    The middle game, oh the middle game is just so attrocious. And it's a very well known fact. The start and the end of Dogma are actually quite good, but everything Gran Soren...god dam! Feels like a placeholder tbh.
  • GorweGorwe Member EpicPosts: 6,093
    YashaX said:
    I think its one of the best rpgs ever made, not sure how you could claim otherwise. I can only assume you have absolutely no sense or appreciation for a good rpg.
    Why though?
  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337
    I'd put Dragon Dogma along with Farcry 5 in the most unexpected gaming ends that actually felt good. Anything to say beyond that would be a spoiler.
  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 2,411
    Gorwe said:
    YashaX said:
    I think its one of the best rpgs ever made, not sure how you could claim otherwise. I can only assume you have absolutely no sense or appreciation for a good rpg.
    Why though?
    How can I explain the majestic blues of the ocean and sky to the colorblind? The endless shades of forest greens to those without eyes to see? The fear of darkness, real night, to those living in its perpetual veil, or the wondrous joy of the rising sun that casts the demons back to the void.
    IselinSovrathThunder073MrMelGibson
    ....
  • markost22markost22 Member UncommonPosts: 49
    Dragon's Dogma is an excellent RPG that I think can largely stand up to a Skyrim or other Witcher.
    The major flaw is the AI but apart from that it is part of the best RPGs in my opinion
  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member RarePosts: 2,774
    dragon dogma is really good but, its  had several problems during the creation, the game was rushed, you do feel like the game was suposed to be bigger and more things to do, well it was supose to, but they cut short because they didn't belive the game would go that well, capcom in his infinite wisdow cut short the game, after they sold it well they made the MMO with the combat in mind only, serious if they made the dark arisen dungeon as a random generate it would make the game survive a lot longer

    becasue lets get real here the gameplay is a lot better then most games out there and if you even liked dark souls tehre is no way you would not like dragon dogma
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  • SharneSharne Member UncommonPosts: 145
    edited October 2018
    YashaX said:
    Gorwe said:
    YashaX said:
    I think its one of the best rpgs ever made, not sure how you could claim otherwise. I can only assume you have absolutely no sense or appreciation for a good rpg.
    Why though?
    How can I explain the majestic blues of the ocean and sky to the colorblind? The endless shades of forest greens to those without eyes to see? The fear of darkness, real night, to those living in its perpetual veil, or the wondrous joy of the rising sun that casts the demons back to the void.
    Actually I know what he means, when I first started playing it, I was of a similar attitude, to the point that I just put the game down after about 10 mins of playing. I got bored one day, played for a couple of hours, then another couple of hours and so on and so on.

    Unlike a lot of RPG's, DD's first few quests are a bit weak, They get much more interesting when you get to Gran Soren.

    God knows how many hours I have pumped into his game, suffice to say I have completed the game numerous times (both DD and DA), completed every encounter in everfall, ground for the best gear, beaten daimon, Ur dragon numerous times and loved every minute of it.

    And the expansion Darkness Arisen just adds heaps to the game as a whole. Some parts of the Bitterblack Isle are genuinely scary the first time you do them, akin to the atmosphere in some of the souls games (although imho implemented better)and add to that the fact that mobs in you face in areas can and will change depending on certain conditions and some of these mobs even at lvl200 can be a challenge, it is a game that gives you more, the more you play.

    To me the sum of the parts of this game far exceed the individual parts and add up to one of the best gaming experiences I have ever had.
    YashaXMrMelGibson
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,054
    edited October 2018
    Gorwe said:
    YashaX said:
    I think its one of the best rpgs ever made, not sure how you could claim otherwise. I can only assume you have absolutely no sense or appreciation for a good rpg.
    Why though?
    The devil is in the details.

    I remember buying it and trying it and sort of felt the character faces were a bit bland, that the start of the world was a bit linear, that they just drew a map and said "ok, way up here we'll just put something, maybe have one quest ..."

    But the more I played the more I loved it. I loved that Harpies could attack you, lift you up, lull you into sleep.

    I loved that at night the dangers were greater, that there were enemies that could blind you or that in one fight with a Hydra, I was swallowed and thank goodness we got him down enough that the pawns could take him out.

    I love that you can climb the monsters you fight as opposed to hacking at just their feet. or that you can take out a tail or limb and it will affect the monster.

    The dungeon running in the expansion is wonderful, probably the best I've experienced with random monsters, some very hard.

    And you can try all the classes and there are enough skills to make your character your own.

    Having pawns that, while not perfect, learn. I try to fill up on spring water and kept empty bottles on my pawns. One time while I was filling those bottles they just started doing the same for themselves.

    This is one of those games that always stays on my hard drive.
    SharneTorvalConstantineMerusPanther2103PhryYashaXNycteliosMrMelGibson



  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member RarePosts: 4,126
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    YashaX said:
    I think its one of the best rpgs ever made, not sure how you could claim otherwise. I can only assume you have absolutely no sense or appreciation for a good rpg.
    Why though?
    The devil is in the details.

    I remember buying it and trying it and sort of felt the character faces were a bit bland, that the start of the world was a bit linear, that they just drew a map and said "ok, way up here we'll just put something, maybe have one quest ..."

    But the more I played the more I loved it. I loved that Harpies could attack you, lift you up, lull you into sleep.

    I loved that at night the dangers were greater, that there were enemies that could blind you or that in one fight with a Hydra, I was swallowed and thank goodness we got him down enough that the pawns could take him out.

    I love that you can climb the monsters you fight as opposed to hacking at just their feet. or that you can take out a tail or limb and it will affect the monster.

    The dungeon running in the expansion is wonderful, probably the best I've experienced with random monsters, some very hard.

    And you can try all the classes and there are enough skills to make your character your own.

    Having pawns that, while not perfect, learn. I try to fill up on spring water and kept empty bottles on my pawns. One time while I was filling those bottles they just started doing the same for themselves.

    This is one of those games that always stays on my hard drive.
    Don't forget dragon riding as they fly in the sky! Or. the grim reaper.... Haha the memories.

    The story is nothing special, but the gameplay sure makes up for the whole thing. If you don't like the combat and rpg elements, there's probably no chance you'll enjoy the game.

    In my opinion, it has the best combat system I've ever tried to date.
    TorvalSharneYashaXMrMelGibson

  • sausagemixsausagemix Member UncommonPosts: 76
    I really liked it. I played it on pc, like 4 years after its first release. Its definitely nothing like the quality of Skyrim but for Capcoms few forays into open worlds it has some enjoyable aspects. Honestly the combat is very Monster Hunter with magic added. Yes, the storytelling is really bare bones but theres enough customization between classes and pawns to distract me from it (for a while.) I think if Capcom made a sequel or remake with better writing and plotting and some co-op it could be a solid game.
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 19,662
    Bloodaxes said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    YashaX said:
    I think its one of the best rpgs ever made, not sure how you could claim otherwise. I can only assume you have absolutely no sense or appreciation for a good rpg.
    Why though?
    The devil is in the details.

    I remember buying it and trying it and sort of felt the character faces were a bit bland, that the start of the world was a bit linear, that they just drew a map and said "ok, way up here we'll just put something, maybe have one quest ..."

    But the more I played the more I loved it. I loved that Harpies could attack you, lift you up, lull you into sleep.

    I loved that at night the dangers were greater, that there were enemies that could blind you or that in one fight with a Hydra, I was swallowed and thank goodness we got him down enough that the pawns could take him out.

    I love that you can climb the monsters you fight as opposed to hacking at just their feet. or that you can take out a tail or limb and it will affect the monster.

    The dungeon running in the expansion is wonderful, probably the best I've experienced with random monsters, some very hard.

    And you can try all the classes and there are enough skills to make your character your own.

    Having pawns that, while not perfect, learn. I try to fill up on spring water and kept empty bottles on my pawns. One time while I was filling those bottles they just started doing the same for themselves.

    This is one of those games that always stays on my hard drive.
    Don't forget dragon riding as they fly in the sky! Or. the grim reaper.... Haha the memories.

    The story is nothing special, but the gameplay sure makes up for the whole thing. If you don't like the combat and rpg elements, there's probably no chance you'll enjoy the game.

    In my opinion, it has the best combat system I've ever tried to date.
    The ideas for action combat in this game were way ahead of their time. I'd love to see this depth of enemy interaction in other action combat games. It adds a big tactical feel to the combat for me.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,054
    Bloodaxes said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    YashaX said:
    I think its one of the best rpgs ever made, not sure how you could claim otherwise. I can only assume you have absolutely no sense or appreciation for a good rpg.
    Why though?
    The devil is in the details.

    I remember buying it and trying it and sort of felt the character faces were a bit bland, that the start of the world was a bit linear, that they just drew a map and said "ok, way up here we'll just put something, maybe have one quest ..."

    But the more I played the more I loved it. I loved that Harpies could attack you, lift you up, lull you into sleep.

    I loved that at night the dangers were greater, that there were enemies that could blind you or that in one fight with a Hydra, I was swallowed and thank goodness we got him down enough that the pawns could take him out.

    I love that you can climb the monsters you fight as opposed to hacking at just their feet. or that you can take out a tail or limb and it will affect the monster.

    The dungeon running in the expansion is wonderful, probably the best I've experienced with random monsters, some very hard.

    And you can try all the classes and there are enough skills to make your character your own.

    Having pawns that, while not perfect, learn. I try to fill up on spring water and kept empty bottles on my pawns. One time while I was filling those bottles they just started doing the same for themselves.

    This is one of those games that always stays on my hard drive.
    Don't forget dragon riding as they fly in the sky! Or. the grim reaper.... Haha the memories.

    The story is nothing special, but the gameplay sure makes up for the whole thing. If you don't like the combat and rpg elements, there's probably no chance you'll enjoy the game.

    In my opinion, it has the best combat system I've ever tried to date.
    Good point. I remember climbing on that dragon and suddenly I was airborn. I never killed the reaper (which was a blast the first time I saw it) because I usually play melee and his "one hit kill" was difficult to dodge. Still a goal though.

    And "yes" it does have the best combat I've tried.
    SharneMrMelGibson



  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,907
    It's a game I go back to frequently and it's unlike any other RPG in many ways. 
    • The classes and multi-classing are well done with some very unique to RPG class ideas. The unique Magic Archer is one of my favorite of all time mage game play ideas.
    • The individual body part targeting is a nice detail.
    • The day/night cycle is done much better than in most RPGs.
    • The atmosphere in dungeons and caves, especially Bitterblack is suitably creepy.
    • The pawn system is unique and pretty cool.
    Yeah, the escort quests are routine filler and there is an over-abundance of them but there are also some very interesting quest lines.

    The only thing I found annoying was the single profile gameplay but there is a clever work around for that in the Steam version that lets you have as many different character profiles as you want. 
    TorvalSharneYashaXMrMelGibson
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  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member RarePosts: 4,126
    Sovrath said:
    Bloodaxes said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    YashaX said:
    I think its one of the best rpgs ever made, not sure how you could claim otherwise. I can only assume you have absolutely no sense or appreciation for a good rpg.
    Why though?
    The devil is in the details.

    I remember buying it and trying it and sort of felt the character faces were a bit bland, that the start of the world was a bit linear, that they just drew a map and said "ok, way up here we'll just put something, maybe have one quest ..."

    But the more I played the more I loved it. I loved that Harpies could attack you, lift you up, lull you into sleep.

    I loved that at night the dangers were greater, that there were enemies that could blind you or that in one fight with a Hydra, I was swallowed and thank goodness we got him down enough that the pawns could take him out.

    I love that you can climb the monsters you fight as opposed to hacking at just their feet. or that you can take out a tail or limb and it will affect the monster.

    The dungeon running in the expansion is wonderful, probably the best I've experienced with random monsters, some very hard.

    And you can try all the classes and there are enough skills to make your character your own.

    Having pawns that, while not perfect, learn. I try to fill up on spring water and kept empty bottles on my pawns. One time while I was filling those bottles they just started doing the same for themselves.

    This is one of those games that always stays on my hard drive.
    Don't forget dragon riding as they fly in the sky! Or. the grim reaper.... Haha the memories.

    The story is nothing special, but the gameplay sure makes up for the whole thing. If you don't like the combat and rpg elements, there's probably no chance you'll enjoy the game.

    In my opinion, it has the best combat system I've ever tried to date.
    Good point. I remember climbing on that dragon and suddenly I was airborn. I never killed the reaper (which was a blast the first time I saw it) because I usually play melee and his "one hit kill" was difficult to dodge. Still a goal though.

    And "yes" it does have the best combat I've tried.
    The Grim Reaper is quite an interesting fight. 

    Every time he appears, you have a couple minutes time to fight until it goes away. His health doesn't reset because of that reason. Pawns however, are pretty retarded when it comes to fighting him. They always remain up close, and end up soloing the rest of the dungeon because of it.

    Honestly, the first time you meet him it's cool, but on future runs you really wish he doesn't appear. Especially, if you're deep in the dungeon.
    TorvalIselinPhryYashaXMrMelGibson

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 27,054
    Bloodaxes said:

    The Grim Reaper is quite an interesting fight. 



    Honestly, the first time you meet him it's cool, but on future runs you really wish he doesn't appear. Especially, if you're deep in the dungeon.
    For me, I like the danger. I believe there is a Pawn summoning area there so that one can summon new pawns.

    But I like that he appears and you have to either try to fight or run for your life but broken because of it.
    TorvalYashaXMrMelGibson



  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member RarePosts: 4,126
    Sovrath said:
    Bloodaxes said:

    The Grim Reaper is quite an interesting fight. 



    Honestly, the first time you meet him it's cool, but on future runs you really wish he doesn't appear. Especially, if you're deep in the dungeon.
    For me, I like the danger. I believe there is a Pawn summoning area there so that one can summon new pawns.

    But I like that he appears and you have to either try to fight or run for your life but broken because of it.
    I always fought it, and always ended up alone until I could bring them back to life. That's why it gets old haha. They never learn.

    The problem usually is when you stumble against some random boss on your way to getting the pawns back. They drop good loot, it's a shame to waste it so I give it a try. The Troll and Minotaur are a real nuisance to be honest haha.
    TorvalPhry

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 12,907
    Bloodaxes said:
    Sovrath said:
    Bloodaxes said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    YashaX said:
    I think its one of the best rpgs ever made, not sure how you could claim otherwise. I can only assume you have absolutely no sense or appreciation for a good rpg.
    Why though?
    The devil is in the details.

    I remember buying it and trying it and sort of felt the character faces were a bit bland, that the start of the world was a bit linear, that they just drew a map and said "ok, way up here we'll just put something, maybe have one quest ..."

    But the more I played the more I loved it. I loved that Harpies could attack you, lift you up, lull you into sleep.

    I loved that at night the dangers were greater, that there were enemies that could blind you or that in one fight with a Hydra, I was swallowed and thank goodness we got him down enough that the pawns could take him out.

    I love that you can climb the monsters you fight as opposed to hacking at just their feet. or that you can take out a tail or limb and it will affect the monster.

    The dungeon running in the expansion is wonderful, probably the best I've experienced with random monsters, some very hard.

    And you can try all the classes and there are enough skills to make your character your own.

    Having pawns that, while not perfect, learn. I try to fill up on spring water and kept empty bottles on my pawns. One time while I was filling those bottles they just started doing the same for themselves.

    This is one of those games that always stays on my hard drive.
    Don't forget dragon riding as they fly in the sky! Or. the grim reaper.... Haha the memories.

    The story is nothing special, but the gameplay sure makes up for the whole thing. If you don't like the combat and rpg elements, there's probably no chance you'll enjoy the game.

    In my opinion, it has the best combat system I've ever tried to date.
    Good point. I remember climbing on that dragon and suddenly I was airborn. I never killed the reaper (which was a blast the first time I saw it) because I usually play melee and his "one hit kill" was difficult to dodge. Still a goal though.

    And "yes" it does have the best combat I've tried.
    The Grim Reaper is quite an interesting fight. 

    Every time he appears, you have a couple minutes time to fight until it goes away. His health doesn't reset because of that reason. Pawns however, are pretty retarded when it comes to fighting him. They always remain up close, and end up soloing the rest of the dungeon because of it.

    Honestly, the first time you meet him it's cool, but on future runs you really wish he doesn't appear. Especially, if you're deep in the dungeon.
    Yeah I hate the Grim Reaper. Lots of backtracking from the closest unlocked dungeon depth caused by those dead pawns.
    TorvalMrMelGibson
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