I figured, "Hey! I'll look smart and Google it!" It appears that anyone who compares world sizes refuses to categorize their video games. Apparently, the experts think a video game is a video game: single player; MMO; side scroller... Now, I have to "look silly" and admit that I have no clue
I do need to ask about WW2 Online, though, as I've never even looked at the game. Is that instanced at all? I know it's an older game and wonder about that.
One even had Daggerfall (the second Elder Scrolls game) as the biggest. But that game was blank. There were miles of nothingness between cities, dungeons, and other points of interest. Size is detrimental if there is nothing there to fill it up, in my opinion.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
Why don't you play EQ2 and tell me why that might be lol
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I played EQ1.. and here I am playing GW2.. and you know what..
I am still zoning. zoning zoning zoning zoning
So... what is your point?
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
BDO is probably the most genuine open world experience now. There is no instancing at all. Even WoW can't be considered open world anymore because each expansion is instanced. Even kalimdor and the eastern kingdoms have always been instanced separate from each other. WoW has open continents, not an open world.
While BDO is large, it seems much bigger than it is due to not being able to fly to take shortcuts, so the size feels bigger than it is. If you could fly in BDO, you would realize how its not nearly as huge. Also there are no teleporters like in many online games as these make the world feel smaller since you can zip around from one side of the map to the other.
ArcheAge has a bigger world than BDO and the overland has no instancing at all just like BDO.
Same goes for the Earth, when you can fly half way around it in half a day.
Flying makes a world a lot smaller and that includes real ones.
I figured, "Hey! I'll look smart and Google it!" It appears that anyone who compares world sizes refuses to categorize their video games. Apparently, the experts think a video game is a video game: single player; MMO; side scroller... Now, I have to "look silly" and admit that I have no clue
I do need to ask about WW2 Online, though, as I've never even looked at the game. Is that instanced at all? I know it's an older game and wonder about that.
One even had Daggerfall (the second Elder Scrolls game) as the biggest. But that game was blank. There were miles of nothingness between cities, dungeons, and other points of interest. Size is detrimental if there is nothing there to fill it up, in my opinion.
WWII Online has no instances. I haven't messed with it in forever, but the problem way back then was not being able to have enough players in the world due to lag and crashes and all that fun stuff.
I imagine it is a lot better now seeing as it is still kicking
Why don't you play EQ2 and tell me why that might be lol
zoning
zoning
zoning
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I played EQ1.. and here I am playing GW2.. and you know what..
I am still zoning. zoning zoning zoning zoning
So... what is your point?
You asked a question, I answered it. That would be the reason for the fixation with large world maps for some. They hate loading screens and enjoy seamless worlds.
BDO is probably the most genuine open world experience now. There is no instancing at all. Even WoW can't be considered open world anymore because each expansion is instanced. Even kalimdor and the eastern kingdoms have always been instanced separate from each other. WoW has open continents, not an open world.
While BDO is large, it seems much bigger than it is due to not being able to fly to take shortcuts, so the size feels bigger than it is.
That point has been made several times already... perceived world size largely depends on game design.
A mount, a mount, my world size for a mount.
Also depends on running speed, teleports, etc etc.
For sure it's cool to roam at random and get the feeling that you could adventure anywhere, but ultimately there has to be more going on than the views or recreating that feeling you get at 1am in a 24 hour supermarket.
Age of Conan has plenty of locations where all that seems to be happening is wild moose running around and DDO's King's Forest is another undeniably spartan wilderness.
(Low spots in 2 great games imho).
tbh I think it's time someone really pushed the boat out on what's possible for an immersive game world packed with opportunity and adventure.
Could 2019 be the year we see WOLVERHAMPTON ONLINE?
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WW2 online is ...Gameplay takes place in a single game world, which is a 1/2 scale map of Western Europe. It is the largest MMOG game world map, at over 350,000 km2 (135,136 sq mi)
I've always been tired, I think that of all the open world games I've played (GTA IV, RDR, Oblivion, Skyrim), I've only been able to finish this last one and because I've already decided to go with the story.
You idiots understand the question? OPEN WORLD means NON-INSTANCED. EQ, ESO, etc.. and games with instancing does not count because they have stupid LOAD SCREENS.
I'd probably say WoW or Lineage2 has the largest non-instanced, no load screen, game worlds. I don't know too much of LOTRO since I haven't played it.
You idiots understand the question? OPEN WORLD means NON-INSTANCED. EQ, ESO, etc.. and games with instancing does not count because they have stupid LOAD SCREENS.
I'd probably say WoW or Lineage2 has the largest non-instanced, no load screen, game worlds. I don't know too much of LOTRO since I haven't played it.
So you telling me there is no loading in WoW when traveling to other continents?
You idiots understand the question? OPEN WORLD means NON-INSTANCED. EQ, ESO, etc.. and games with instancing does not count because they have stupid LOAD SCREENS.
I'd probably say WoW or Lineage2 has the largest non-instanced, no load screen, game worlds. I don't know too much of LOTRO since I haven't played it.
And here I thought "open world" meant that my characters were not restricted to specific zones, that they could adventure anywhere. I had no idea "zoning" factored into the term. Color me pink with embarrassment.
/sarcasm off
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
You idiots understand the question? OPEN WORLD means NON-INSTANCED. [...] I don't know too much of LOTRO since I haven't played it.
LotRO has a few loading screens (not all expansions and updates could be added seamlessly), but not too much compared to the world size. If you go to Mordor from the Shire, and not through Moria but towards Isengard, you will have 2 (maybe 3) loading screens. On foot with runspeed boosts it takes a couple hours... on a warsteed you can make it under 2 hours.
OP is wrong in his conclusion that "most of space is nothingness". Dark matter and dark energy - are everywhere.
EVE is instanced. You have to use gates to go from one region to another. If you are going to insist on comparing size using space games than nothing currently competes with Elite Dangrous and it isn't instanced at all. It's a whole galaxy and has over 400 billion, that is 400 billion star systems with a b, that players can travel to and explore.
OP is wrong in his conclusion that "most of space is nothingness". Dark matter and dark energy - are everywhere.
EVE is instanced. You have to use gates to go from one region to another. If you are going to insist on comparing size using space games than nothing currently competes with Elite Dangrous and it isn't instanced at all. It's a whole galaxy and has over 400 billion, that is 400 billion star systems with a b, that players can travel to and explore.
Except each system is larger than every game out there, which still means that Eve Online has the largest 'area' in terms of open world none instanced none phased etc. etc. each system has a central sun, with a number of worlds orbiting it, most worlds have at least 1 moon there are also numerous asteroid belts etc. each system is significantly larger than any other MMO's gameworld.
OP is wrong in his conclusion that "most of space is nothingness". Dark matter and dark energy - are everywhere.
EVE is instanced. You have to use gates to go from one region to another. If you are going to insist on comparing size using space games than nothing currently competes with Elite Dangrous and it isn't instanced at all. It's a whole galaxy and has over 400 billion, that is 400 billion star systems with a b, that players can travel to and explore.
And you can land on planets... explore them with a rover... If you like space exploration, ED dwarfs EVE like it's not even funny.
In terms of none MMO's that is true, but its not alone in that aspect, No Mans Sky is also in that category and has superior ground based gameplay, including building bases etc. also like ED, NMS is either single player or multiplayer, finally.
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I do need to ask about WW2 Online, though, as I've never even looked at the game. Is that instanced at all? I know it's an older game and wonder about that.
One even had Daggerfall (the second Elder Scrolls game) as the biggest. But that game was blank. There were miles of nothingness between cities, dungeons, and other points of interest. Size is detrimental if there is nothing there to fill it up, in my opinion.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
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I am still zoning.
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So... what is your point?
Flying makes a world a lot smaller and that includes real ones.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
I imagine it is a lot better now seeing as it is still kicking
Really, size of a game world tells you absolutely nothing, how you traverse it does.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
All the space between each point is empty. It could have all been put in the Direlands area and the game would have been exactly the same.
Stop blindly defending the game when you know full well you wasted half your life auto running through pointless 'world' in it.
There's less than 100 points of interest there in 500 square miles. Thanks for proving my point.
And if I want to chat to people online at the same time - I can do that as well if I wish.
Also depends on running speed, teleports, etc etc.
I'd probably say WoW or Lineage2 has the largest non-instanced, no load screen, game worlds. I don't know too much of LOTRO since I haven't played it.
/sarcasm off
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
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